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85 FJ1100 refurbishment/custom

Started by Joe Sull, October 15, 2013, 06:05:48 PM

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racerrad8

Not to keep leading this topic down the wrong road, but the valve spring retainer OD is .875 (22mm) and the flat area of the retainer is around .720 (18mm). I am not sure why you need to add the washer if you just start with a smaller socket. If there is enough internal material to catch the outer edge of the retainer with your 3/4" socket you already made you should be fine.

This is very similar to the tool I use;


You want to keep the hole in the center as large as possible as it makes it much easier to install the valve keepers. I found the type you have made to work we at disassembly, but when assembling to makes it difficult to get the keeper installed on both sides, which is why I have something very similar to the tool pictured above.

Randy - RPM
Randy - RPM

movenon

Quote from: racerrad8 on January 13, 2014, 12:00:46 PM
Not to keep leading this topic down the wrong road, but the valve spring retainer OD is .875 (22mm) and the flat area of the retainer is around .720 (18mm). I am not sure why you need to add the washer if you just start with a smaller socket. If there is enough internal material to catch the outer edge of the retainer with your 3/4" socket you already made you should be fine.

This is very similar to the tool I use;


You want to keep the hole in the center as large as possible as it makes it much easier to install the valve keepers. I found the type you have made to work we at disassembly, but when assembling to makes it difficult to get the keeper installed on both sides, which is why I have something very similar to the tool pictured above.

Randy - RPM

Thanks for the input Randy.  I may revamp the socket.  Using the larger diameter socket with the washer on the end for a shoulder when the valve stem raises into the open area of the socket you would have a little more room to deal with the small keepers it would seem ?  As you can tell I am running in the dark doing this and solving problems as I go. When I get to the point of actually doing this I will order the seals from you and post the information (minus the profanity  :lol:).
George
Life isn't about having the best, but about making the best of what you have...

1990 FJ 1200

Joe Sull

Hey, go right ahead. I just hope theres enough key words so as this dosen't get lost but I'll know right were to find it when it's my turn to do the valve stem seals.
In the mean time, I've got bigger fish to fry. :dance2:

More pics!









Three hours masking


Ready for clearcoat tomorrow.

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racerrad8

Joe, what are you going to do with the center of the wheel that is exposed but you only fogged with color?

Randy - RPM
Randy - RPM

Joe Sull

What the hell was I thinking...They got a saying up this way. "Dawn breaks over Marble head" and it's used as a double meaning because of a place on the shore, down in massachussetts called Marble head where people go to watch the sun rise. I had it in my mind that the rotor covered the area. Thanks for spotting that. I'll fix it tomorrow.
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keand3

Whant to check out my photos on the bike??
https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid=828DDEC8DF631CA5%21103

Joe Sull

Thanks Keand3

I fix the front rim by getting the metalcast on that center area and I got the rear wheel caught up with the front.
Almost had the clearcoat on but it started raining. I guess tomorrow.



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Arnie

I've just posted a file showing a simple tool you can make to R & R valve guide seals.
The depression head is similar to what's been discussed and shown, but the pivot and lever mount are what makes this good. 
It allows you to easily do this job on your own while the engine remains in the frame.
I'm sorry, but can't remember who sent it to me.  I think it was a member from either here or the Yahoo FJ list.
Title is "Valve Guide Seal Replacement" in the Files/General Maintainence section.

Arnie



Quote from: racerrad8 on January 13, 2014, 12:00:46 PM
Not to keep leading this topic down the wrong road, but the valve spring retainer OD is .875 (22mm) and the flat area of the retainer is around .720 (18mm). I am not sure why you need to add the washer if you just start with a smaller socket. If there is enough internal material to catch the outer edge of the retainer with your 3/4" socket you already made you should be fine.

This is very similar to the tool I use;


You want to keep the hole in the center as large as possible as it makes it much easier to install the valve keepers. I found the type you have made to work we at disassembly, but when assembling to makes it difficult to get the keeper installed on both sides, which is why I have something very similar to the tool pictured above.

Randy - RPM

Joe Sull

Wheels are clearcoated and completed. I'll be painting the rotors and the sprocket with the frame, Hot rod red.





They glow in the sunlight. :biggrin:
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Joe Sull

Just got back from painting the frames, rotors, kickstand, sprocket, clipons and hub over to my sons. :biggrin:
Here they are with 3 coats still wet. Hot rod red!
My son took these pics with his phone and posted on facebook then I copied them.
I'll get pics of the other parts tomorrow.







They should darken a bit. The camera makes the images look more orange than they are.
I love the color.

I got some more parts done. here's the battery box painted with 2 coats of the duplicolor adhesive promotor and 3 coats of vinyl and fabric red. I got the fenders ready to paint.



Couple of othere pics





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FJmonkey

I guess the Red Power Range honor needs to be passed on at this point...  :cray: Maybe I will find a white cat and dye it RED to compete and hold my position of honor.... Poor cat....  :shok:
The glass is not half full, it was engineered with a 2X safety factor.

'86 Ambulance - Bent frame, cracked case, due for an overhaul
'89 Stormy Blue - Suits my Dark Side

Joe Sull

Sorry guy. :biggrin: Anything I can do to help? :sarcastic:
I got a white and black cat you can have. It ain't a very good cat, pretty skiddish but
if you give it a silver metallic base coat and spray candy apple red it mite
come out of it.
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Joe Sull

Engine is painted! I still haven't got the blind plug cover repair done yet. The last 3 days has been the only time I've had to do the painting. Temp. has been really cold and keeping his wood stove going just to set epoxy would be dumb.



My son kept the fire going last night for the frame. It is dry to the touch and we hung all the parts on the wall for another night and painted the engine.



The temp's going to be around 30 deg tonight. I brought over a propane heater to help and he'll load the stove and turn the heater on before he goes to bed. Tomorrow nights low is going down to 0 and Monday -7 so I'll pick up the parts and bring them home. The frame parts should be good outside by then but the engine will have to come in the house for 7 days till it cures. My wife's going to want me to put it under the kitchen table. Ha!



We will see if this stuff is going to hold up.



For better or for worse, it's done
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aviationfred

The engine looks awesome. :good: :good: :good2: I hope it holds up well with the engine heat.

Fred
I'm not the fastest FJ rider, I am 'half-fast', the fastest slow guy....

Current
2008 VFR800 RC46 Vtec
1996 VFR750 RC36/2
1990 FJ1300 (1297cc) Casper
1990 VFR750 RC36/1 Minnie
1989 FJ1200 Lazarus, the Streetfighter Project
1985 VF500F RC31 Interceptor

fj johnnie

 Very nice. The best way to learn is to try. That motor looks evil!!!!