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85 FJ1100 refurbishment/custom

Started by Joe Sull, October 15, 2013, 06:05:48 PM

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Pat Conlon

Joe, that is quite ambitious to plan on polishing the engine case, cylinder and head.
Any drips on the hot polished surface will stain. It can be polished out, but still...
1) Free Owners Manual download: https://tinyurl.com/fmsz7hk9
2) Don't store your FJ with E10 fuel https://tinyurl.com/3cjrfct5
3) Replace your old stock rubber brake lines.
4) Important items for the '84-87 FJ's:
Safety wire: https://tinyurl.com/99zp8ufh
Fuel line: https://tinyurl.com/bdff9bf3

FJscott


1tinindian

Quote from: Dan Filetti on October 22, 2013, 10:31:59 AM
Quote from: racerrad8 on October 21, 2013, 02:01:47 PM

I thought I posted this comment yesterday, but it seems not to have taken...

You know how you get a picture in your head of what someone looks like before you meet them,  then you meet them (or, as in this case, see a picture of them) and they are either somewhat close to your mental picture, or way the hell off?  Well, for me, this is the latter.  For whatever reason I pictured Randy as younger-looking, -sort of a 'Jimmy from Superman' look about him.  



Man was I wrong... :)

Dan

Dan, that's not Randy.
Or did I miss something?

Leon
"I want to be free to ride my machine without being hassled by the "man"!
91 FJ1200

Dan Filetti

Oh, for christsakes!  Who then, is the guy standing in front of (actually to the side of) Pat's motor-less (exhaust-valve cooked/ need to be re-sprayed whichever...) bike?!!?  I know it's not Pat.

Please enlighten me.

Does this mean that Randy does indeed look more like Jimmy from Superman?

Dan  
Live hardy, or go home. 

Joe Sull

Pat, I'm planning on painting the cylinder block red flame paint. I still want to get the black paint out and clean the metal so the new paint won't chip off because of the old black. There is'nt much black paint left because of the age. I'll face off the outside edge of the top 6 fins and polish those edges.
Most of the casings will be red anodize coating. The casings only have to be shiney for the anodize to look good.
The covers will be polished and clear coated. Red paint in the yamaha letters instead of black.
I'll probably polish the heads as much as I can.  

I build my own blackpowder pistols from scratch. I fire forge my flintlock parts and polish them up. The last one I built took a year. I AM gonna drive this bike in the spring!
You Keep What you kill

Harvy

Quote from: Dan Filetti on November 04, 2013, 02:03:18 PM
Oh, for christsakes!  Who then, is the guy standing in front of (actually to the side of) Pat's motor-less (exhaust-valve cooked/ need to be re-sprayed whichever...) bike?!!?  I know it's not Pat.

Please enlighten me.

Does this mean that Randy does indeed look more like Jimmy from Superman?

Dan  



Dan, I was under the impression that that man is Randys test pilot extraordinaire of all things FJ  - Mike.

Harvy
FJZ1 1200 - It'll do me just fine.
Timing has much to do with the success of a rain dance.

Dan Filetti

Now that you mention it, it does look quite like iron-butt Mike R., whom I have met.  The hat threw me off. 

Cheers!

Dan
Live hardy, or go home. 

movenon

Quote from: 1tinindian on November 04, 2013, 12:55:31 PM
Quote from: Dan Filetti on October 22, 2013, 10:31:59 AM
Quote from: racerrad8 on October 21, 2013, 02:01:47 PM

I thought I posted this comment yesterday, but it seems not to have taken...

You know how you get a picture in your head of what someone looks like before you meet them,  then you meet them (or, as in this case, see a picture of them) and they are either somewhat close to your mental picture, or way the hell off?  Well, for me, this is the latter.  For whatever reason I pictured Randy as younger-looking, -sort of a 'Jimmy from Superman' look about him.  



Man was I wrong... :)

Dan

Dan, that's not Randy.
Or did I miss something?

Leon



:rofl2: :rofl2: :rofl2: George
Life isn't about having the best, but about making the best of what you have...

1990 FJ 1200

FJscott

Quote from: Dan Filetti on November 04, 2013, 02:03:18 PM
Oh, for christsakes!  Who then, is the guy standing in front of (actually to the side of) Pat's motor-less (exhaust-valve cooked/ need to be re-sprayed whichever...) bike?!!?  I know it's not Pat.

Please enlighten me.

Does this mean that Randy does indeed look more like Jimmy from Superman?

Dan  

Dan, I think that's Mike"iron butt"Ramos breaking into randis shop and taking a crow bar to Pats bike
in a fit of shiny jealousy.

Scott

hein

Hi Joe.

  I don't wish to burst your bubble on your anodizing plan of the engine cases but reconsider your plan. All the cases  are diecast aluminum which don't take well to anodizing. Most die castings have trace elements of silicone in them and turn any attempts of colour anodizing into a dog's breakfast. Also bear in mind that all other materials that are not aluminum will have to be removed prior to anodizing. Then there is the issue of heat and uv degradation. I am aware of the sealer coats that can be used but from my experience shiney red can turn into faded pink rapidly.

  Before embarking on this project talk to a reputable anodizing shop and show them the pieces you wish to anodize and ask them if this is feasible and if they can guarantee the results.

Hein.
What do you mean, you don't have a lathe?

Joe Sull

Hey Hein, No problem because it's not really anodize. I did post somewhere in this thread that it is paint, but I guess I did'nt explain it very well. It's a transparent red paint, what looks like anodize. It's good to 500 deg. and the same with the clear coat that I'm gonna put over it. Heres a link.
http://www.duplicolor.com/products/metalCast/

I tried the Zip Strip brand on the engine paint and it did'nt do anything. I can use it for something else but I need more power. Stronger, longer and harder paint stripper.
You Keep What you kill

Joe Sull

Needed to take some time to rethink how I gonna get the black paint off the motor. Read 10 posts or so on different sites and I read that "Aircraft Remover" is the best paint stripper on the market and that Home Depot sells it. I gotta get me some.
I'm doing this project with very little to spend and even after I use the aircraft remover there going to be a lot of black that just won't come off. I'm going to end up using the dremmel and I don't have the money to burn thru wire wheel bits. This is what I need to overcome. Somehow I need to make a abrasive sanding bit tool with what I've got in the shop.
In the mean time I started on the frames. I got the swingarm half done. I need to hit that with the paint stripper to get the clear coat off. The tail frame is half done. Started wet sanding it yesterday. Today I disassembled the main frame and started degreasing and wire wheeling. I want to get it to the point where I can take it on the road with me when I go to work.  I can wet sand and prep it in the motel parking lot.
A few pics.



I'm waiting for a big diving job to start. I'm on call to mobilize. In the meantime I go clamming for a little extra money. Once I get the call, I'll be sitting pretty good for the winter. My son bought a paint sprayer and a water separator and he's going to paint it for me but I still got to buy paint.


Looks to me like I caught this just in time. Starting to rust. The welds look ok. I haven't seen one that's cracked yet.

You Keep What you kill

Joe Sull

A couple of pic of my progress and a question or two.

I got some frame ready for paint. I guess I'm gonna paint the frame florescent green. I change my mind every day just about. It's pretty fun to think about.



The decals came off pretty easy with a razor blade. I wet sanded with 320 but the scratches needed some 150. The tail piece had a line decal that separated the two-tone paint. That was difficult. The only tool that worked for me was a jack knife. Looks like somebody sat on the end, there's some cracks in the paint that go down to the plastic. I mite go a little deeper sanding there.



I finally got some stripper that works.



A question about the rear shock. Can that be taken apart so I can paint the coil and clean good?
You Keep What you kill

Joe Sull

You Keep What you kill

Pat Conlon

Quote from: Joe Sull on November 18, 2013, 03:40:32 PM
I finally got some stripper that works.


A question about the rear shock. Can that be taken apart so I can paint the coil and clean good?


Joe, I have found that a skinny wire wheel on a cordless drill works well in those locations (Wear a face mask)

With the flex of the spring, I have not had good results with painting. Perhaps powder coat? Dunno.
1) Free Owners Manual download: https://tinyurl.com/fmsz7hk9
2) Don't store your FJ with E10 fuel https://tinyurl.com/3cjrfct5
3) Replace your old stock rubber brake lines.
4) Important items for the '84-87 FJ's:
Safety wire: https://tinyurl.com/99zp8ufh
Fuel line: https://tinyurl.com/bdff9bf3