It's all in the Name

[CanDman]

".............say hello to my little friend !!!!!!"

[CanDman]

<<< effie,  the ambulance is felicity- jayne,  I havnt named the 88 but when my cousin owned him it was wagon, as we have a gmh vehicle that was an fj

photos? I would love to see them both.....come on now.....also..need to know how you came up with this name.......common...spew lad spew............

CanDman

[reggit]

Mine's now christened 'the scary one'!

I came up with this particularly apt name after trying to drive it for the first time!

Excuse my extremely untidy garage in the pic please.

[The General]

Mine's now christened 'the scary one'!

I came up with this particularly apt name after trying to drive it for the first time!

Any chance of some close up pics of Perimeter frame/chassis  attachments on Scary?

[The General]

Mine's now christened 'the scary one'!

I came up with this particularly apt name after trying to drive it for the first time!

Excuse my extremely untidy garage in the pic please.

Assuming it`s all connected in the pic (Optical illusion excepted) Toe in (alignment) of chair is very wrong. (Looks like a toe out!) Which is probly why "it shakes ya all about!"  I bet it tries to turn you around! Which of course is not what it`s all about! 

[CanDman]

Wow........ amazing eye sight Doug..... I have no idea what you are looking at......  .......so......General.......what name hast thou cast upon your heavy metal machine(s) ? Louise maybe......or Jeanie.....?

[reggit]

Assuming it`s all connected in the pic (Optical illusion excepted) Toe in (alignment) of chair is very wrong. (Looks like a toe out!) Which is probly why "it shakes ya all about!"  I bet it tries to turn you around! Which of course is not what it`s all about! 

wow - thanks for that information, I knew something wasn't right - even as a complete novice I suspected is wasn't meant to rip the bars out of my hands and go careering to the nearest footpath!

It was connected in that pic, I've temporarily split the combination to allow easier access to the bike components for fixing a few issues (and getting an MOT on it).  I've now read quite a lot on the subject of aligning the chair - not sure how to measure the toe yet, I guess this will be a bit of trial and error.

I suspect the bloke I bought it off was telling a pork-pie when he told me it was professionally fitted and rode well - I trailered it home as the bike was a non-runner when I got it.

Anyway, are the pics any good to you with the chair detached?

[Charlie-brm]

Any motorcycle I have past, present or future will be loosely referred to as "the sanity saver". No formal nicknames.

There was an FJ here with a Wiseco kit, flat slide carbs, etc. and it is called "Hell Raiser". It's been parted out and the engine lives in an FJ1100 frame now.

[Dan Filetti]

not sure how to measure the toe yet, I guess this will be a bit of trial and error.

I am no expert, hell, I don't even know whether that side-car has two wheels, but, I suspect measuring toe would involve two pieces of tightly pulled string running carefully along both the bike wheels/ tires (handlebars perfectly straight) and the side car wheels, forming two parallel lines (hopefully).  I would extend the string several feet in front on the bike and side care, as well as several feet behind.  Assuming the strings represent the wheel alignment for both units, then, ostensibly, it's a simple matter of measuring the distances between the strings at the front and back.  If there is a bigger distance between the front then there is at the back, then it toe's out, and visa-versa. 

If the side car only has one wheel, it can be still done but the string must perfectly 'kiss' the front and back strike points of the tire, equally.  Again it's not impossible, it's just a bit more difficult to get lined up with one wheel, than with two. 

Just a thought.

Dan

[CanDman]

Mine's now christened 'the scary one'!

I came up with this particularly apt name after trying to drive it for the first time!

Excuse my extremely untidy garage in the pic please.

Assuming it`s all connected in the pic (Optical illusion excepted) Toe in (alignment) of chair is very wrong. (Looks like a toe out!) Which is probly why "it shakes ya all about!"  I bet it tries to turn you around! Which of course is not what it`s all about!  

OMG..... ....it's a side car !!!!!!   ..... I have never seen a side car on an FJ before....no wonder I didn't know what I was looking for.........wow.......different for sure......

Canseeitnow

[ribbert]

Any motorcycle I have past, present or future will be loosely referred to as "the sanity saver". No formal nicknames.

You never see a motorbike parked outside a shrinks office!

[The General]

not sure how to measure the toe yet, I guess this will be a bit of trial and error.

I am no expert, hell, I don't even know whether that side-car has two wheels, but, I suspect measuring toe would involve two pieces of tightly pulled string running carefully along both the bike wheels/ tires (handlebars perfectly straight) and the side car wheels, forming two parallel lines (hopefully).  I would extend the string several feet in front on the bike and side care, as well as several feet behind.  Assuming the strings represent the wheel alignment for both units, then, ostensibly, it's a simple matter of measuring the distances between the strings at the front and back.  If there is a bigger distance between the front then there is at the back, then it toe's out, and visa-versa. 

If the side car only has one wheel, it can be still done but the string must perfectly 'kiss' the front and back strike points of the tire, equally.  Again it's not impossible, it's just a bit more difficult to get lined up with one wheel, than with two. 

Just a thought.

Dan

Good thinking Dan. (As Usual). (I was actually also concerned for lean out angle too but a bit hard to tell for sure from the pic). Sorry for going considerably off thread. I did put the following in a link under the thread " Re: Anyone else with an FJ and sidecar?" copy as follows .......Performing the Alignment

The sidecar should be level or as close to level as you can get it both fore and aft and left to right. Left to right can be measured by using a square with the sidecar wheel.

The motorcycle should have about 2-3 degrees of lean out, away from the sidecar. In no event should the bike be tilted toward the sidecar.

If you make a line 6 feet in front of the bike that is parallel to the motorcycle wheels on the left and the sidecar wheel on the right (a chalk line tied to jack stands or two long board along each side of the wheels works well for this measurement) there should be about 1½ inch of toe in (of course if it is 3 feet in front of the bike it would be about ¾ inch).

Again, this is only a starting point but will get you close.

After this, it is trial and error to try and get the rig so that it does not pull left or right when braking or accelerating. The process can be a little frustrating the first time, but some patience will go a long way. After the first time it will be much easier. Time spent aligning the car is time well spent.....

Cheers,  Doug Mc

[The General]

Any motorcycle I have past, present or future will be loosely referred to as "the sanity saver". No formal nicknames.

You never see a motorbike parked outside a shrinks office!

Interestingly, I do know of one that`s parked regularly outside of such a profession. I think he calls it "The Settler"....and yes it`s an FJ...which is why he`s not a patient.

[The General]

Wow........ amazing eye sight Doug..... I have no idea what you are looking at......  .......so......General.......what name hast thou cast upon your heavy metal machine(s) ? Louise maybe......or Jeanie.....?

Sorry Mate, Nuthin historicle, just FJ1 for my first one, then FJ2 (recently sold) and FJ3. But the next one has a good chance of being called "FJ4 and a half" 

[The General]

....Anyway, are the pics any good to you with the chair detached?

Yeah that`d still be good mate. I particularly wanted to view square type bracketing that fits the "square type" FJ perimeter frame. But pics of the adjuster rods with mounting position would be good too. Suggest you (reply) post it under your other thread " Anyone else with an FJ and sidecar?"  Cheers, Doug Mc