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1989 3CV Streetfighter Project

Started by aviationfred, August 02, 2021, 11:13:38 PM

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aviationfred

Quote from: giantkiller on September 15, 2023, 10:42:32 AM
Hey Fred. I'm terrible at wiring. Any and all details are appreciated.
Awesome build Fred.

The best advise that I have for wiring is to get one of these 4 page diagrams.

This one for your 86

https://www.ebay.com/itm/144481513624?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=N0bsJfTFTEO&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=mGn5YeY-QK2&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

This one for your 89

https://www.ebay.com/itm/144482695399?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=N0bsJfTFTEO&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=mGn5YeY-QK2&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

They are much easier to read than the single page diagrams in the Haynes manual.


Fred
I'm not the fastest FJ rider, I am 'half-fast', the fastest slow guy....

Current
2008 VFR800 RC46 Vtec
1996 VFR750 RC36/2
1990 FJ1300 (1297cc) Casper
1990 VFR750 RC36/1 Minnie
1989 FJ1200 Lazarus, the Streetfighter Project
1985 VF500F RC31 Interceptor

aviationfred

The bikes are loaded and ready for the Vintage Yamaha Rally.
I will be making a stop in Arkansas to Visit Craig Ovadia. An additional bike will be added to the trailer. I purchased this and Craig picked it up for me.
The little Honda has sentimental value. I had a 1986 Interceptor 500 as my very 1st street bike when I was 19. I bought it at the same dealership that Pat Conlon bought his 84 FJ1100 2 years earlier.

Fred
I'm not the fastest FJ rider, I am 'half-fast', the fastest slow guy....

Current
2008 VFR800 RC46 Vtec
1996 VFR750 RC36/2
1990 FJ1300 (1297cc) Casper
1990 VFR750 RC36/1 Minnie
1989 FJ1200 Lazarus, the Streetfighter Project
1985 VF500F RC31 Interceptor

aviationfred

I have not had the chance to do much on the Streetfighter since September. It was a Great hit at the Vintage Yamaha Rally. Even in it's non-running state.

I'm not the fastest FJ rider, I am 'half-fast', the fastest slow guy....

Current
2008 VFR800 RC46 Vtec
1996 VFR750 RC36/2
1990 FJ1300 (1297cc) Casper
1990 VFR750 RC36/1 Minnie
1989 FJ1200 Lazarus, the Streetfighter Project
1985 VF500F RC31 Interceptor

aviationfred

The high mount exhaust has not given the look that I had envisioned. I have decided to do a low, stubby exhaust instead. The photos are just a mock up using the current mufflers and a set of KO mufflers that will probably be used.


Fred
I'm not the fastest FJ rider, I am 'half-fast', the fastest slow guy....

Current
2008 VFR800 RC46 Vtec
1996 VFR750 RC36/2
1990 FJ1300 (1297cc) Casper
1990 VFR750 RC36/1 Minnie
1989 FJ1200 Lazarus, the Streetfighter Project
1985 VF500F RC31 Interceptor

Urx

The low setup looks better by a lot...much neater.
I actually prefer the look of the low black silencers to the ko ones
Stainless lines
Blue spot calipers but std m/cyl (so far)
Ebc prolite front discs
Ohlins remote adj rear shock
Remus 4:1
Still running original chain and sprockets from new (scotoilers really work)
Krauser k2s

giantkiller

Quote from: Urx on December 28, 2023, 01:54:27 AM
The low setup looks better by a lot...much neater.
I actually prefer the look of the low black silencers to the ko ones
Same here. Black one. Awesome job Fred.  The first thing I thought looking at the picture of the bike was the exhaust has to go. Scroll down and you already fixed it.
86 fj1350r
86 fj1380t turbo drag toy (soon)
87 fj1200 865 miles crashed for parts
89 fj1200 touring 2up
87 fzr1000 crashed
87 fzr750r Human Race teams world endurance champion
93 fzr600 Vance n hines ltd for sale
Custom chopper I built
Mini chopper I built for my daughter just like the big 1

Pat Conlon

Add another vote, for the low black mufflers!
1) Free Owners Manual download: https://tinyurl.com/fmsz7hk9
2) Don't store your FJ with E10 fuel https://tinyurl.com/3cjrfct5
3) Replace your old stock rubber brake lines.
4) Important items for the '84-87 FJ's:
Safety wire: https://tinyurl.com/99zp8ufh
Fuel line: https://tinyurl.com/bdff9bf3

fj1289

I like the black mufflers too .... BUT either choice would still really show off the single sided swing arm conversion in the future .....!

aviationfred

And the wire harness build has begun. Looks like the Really inexpensive all encompassing Speedometer/Tachometer unit will not work.

I have found a TFT style unit that I will attempt to install.


Fred
I'm not the fastest FJ rider, I am 'half-fast', the fastest slow guy....

Current
2008 VFR800 RC46 Vtec
1996 VFR750 RC36/2
1990 FJ1300 (1297cc) Casper
1990 VFR750 RC36/1 Minnie
1989 FJ1200 Lazarus, the Streetfighter Project
1985 VF500F RC31 Interceptor

giantkiller

Quote from: aviationfred on January 09, 2024, 02:12:21 AM
And the wire harness build has begun. Looks like the Really inexpensive all encompassing Speedometer/Tachometer unit will not work.

I have found a TFT style unit that I will attempt to install.


Fred
Hey Fred I really like the one at the bottom do you have a link
86 fj1350r
86 fj1380t turbo drag toy (soon)
87 fj1200 865 miles crashed for parts
89 fj1200 touring 2up
87 fzr1000 crashed
87 fzr750r Human Race teams world endurance champion
93 fzr600 Vance n hines ltd for sale
Custom chopper I built
Mini chopper I built for my daughter just like the big 1

aviationfred

Quote from: giantkiller on January 09, 2024, 03:35:29 PM
Quote from: aviationfred on January 09, 2024, 02:12:21 AM
And the wire harness build has begun. Looks like the Really inexpensive all encompassing Speedometer/Tachometer unit will not work.

I have found a TFT style unit that I will attempt to install.


Fred
Hey Fred I really like the one at the bottom do you have a link

Here is the link Dan.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/166031933037?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=zh24b2nRRPW&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=mGn5YeY-QK2&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY


I have decided not to go the cheap/inexpensive route on the Streetfighter 1200 instrumentation. I am going with the High Quality Koso RX4 TFT Meter.
As my friend Roger likes to say, "If you buy quality parts, you only Cry Once."

https://kosonorthamerica.com/product/rx-4-multifunction-meter-universal/



Fred
I'm not the fastest FJ rider, I am 'half-fast', the fastest slow guy....

Current
2008 VFR800 RC46 Vtec
1996 VFR750 RC36/2
1990 FJ1300 (1297cc) Casper
1990 VFR750 RC36/1 Minnie
1989 FJ1200 Lazarus, the Streetfighter Project
1985 VF500F RC31 Interceptor

aviationfred

Since the modern Multifunction Display will have gear selection indication. I figured it would be prudent to remove the Neutral switch and add a gear position switch.


Fred
I'm not the fastest FJ rider, I am 'half-fast', the fastest slow guy....

Current
2008 VFR800 RC46 Vtec
1996 VFR750 RC36/2
1990 FJ1300 (1297cc) Casper
1990 VFR750 RC36/1 Minnie
1989 FJ1200 Lazarus, the Streetfighter Project
1985 VF500F RC31 Interceptor

fj1289

Fred, does the indicator in the dash work off a discrete signal per gear - i.e. this pin grounded = 1st, next pin grounded = 2nd, etc?  Or does it go off different resistances per gear? 

I think Randy's setup is the first, while most factory bikes are the second.  I haven't thought all the way through how to get Randy's switch to act like the second way - seems you would have to run 5 volt or 12 volt power through it BUT the shift drum would be grounded to the engine cases? 

I bought the gear position setup from RPM when it came back in stock, but trying to figure out how to make it work with my electronics - - hopefully your setup is straight forward.  I'm thinking mine will require some type of analog to digital converter, or a bank of miniaturized relays and various resistors?

aviationfred

Quote from: fj1289 on January 18, 2024, 10:26:58 PM
Fred, does the indicator in the dash work off a discrete signal per gear - i.e. this pin grounded = 1st, next pin grounded = 2nd, etc?  Or does it go off different resistances per gear? 

I think Randy's setup is the first, while most factory bikes are the second.  I haven't thought all the way through how to get Randy's switch to act like the second way - seems you would have to run 5 volt or 12 volt power through it BUT the shift drum would be grounded to the engine cases? 

I bought the gear position setup from RPM when it came back in stock, but trying to figure out how to make it work with my electronics - - hopefully your setup is straight forward.  I'm thinking mine will require some type of analog to digital converter, or a bank of miniaturized relays and various resistors?

I will let you know when I get the bike powered up.


Fred
I'm not the fastest FJ rider, I am 'half-fast', the fastest slow guy....

Current
2008 VFR800 RC46 Vtec
1996 VFR750 RC36/2
1990 FJ1300 (1297cc) Casper
1990 VFR750 RC36/1 Minnie
1989 FJ1200 Lazarus, the Streetfighter Project
1985 VF500F RC31 Interceptor

aviationfred

Some more progress and yet another instrument change... since I decided to go with a quality Guage package. I am finding that many others have the same idea and the Koso TFT Multifunction Meter's are very popular and are out of stock through most distributors.
Robert at RPM has come through and I have a Koso MS-01 on order. It is much more like the simple round design of the cheap Chinese version that I started with..

The wire harness is coming together nicely. I have the original wire harness plus a 2nd wire harness that I am hacking apart so that ALL of the wires stay the exact color code.


Fred
I'm not the fastest FJ rider, I am 'half-fast', the fastest slow guy....

Current
2008 VFR800 RC46 Vtec
1996 VFR750 RC36/2
1990 FJ1300 (1297cc) Casper
1990 VFR750 RC36/1 Minnie
1989 FJ1200 Lazarus, the Streetfighter Project
1985 VF500F RC31 Interceptor