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Started by FJ1200W, July 18, 2021, 01:08:14 PM

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FJ1200W

Quote from: Dads_FJ on August 02, 2021, 11:05:18 AM

This fits the bill and is the one I used on my '89.

Facet - FPF-40178N   12V, 2-3.5PSI


Ordered that pump and the controller Pat recommended.

Thoughts on how to modify the '86 fuel petcock? I don't see any need for the vacuum shutoff, I was leaning toward making it open all the time and installed an inline manual shutoff valve.

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Hello Tom, a couple of things to do if you want to retrofit a fuel pump on to your early '84-87 FJ.

1) the '84-85 vacuum petcock must be set on (P) Prime (open all the time)  For '86-87 petcocks that don't have this prime feature, you have to convert to a manual petcock or use a '84/85 petcock.
http://rpmracingca.com/proddetail.asp?prod=M%2FC%3AFJPetcock
The closing of the petcock is no longer needed, the fuel pump now controls the fuel flow.

2) The '84-87 gravity feed carbs use larger float needle seats, the '88-95 fuel pump carbs use smaller float needle seats, so you will need to change them: http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?topic=9836.0
If you use the large needle seats with a fuel pump, the higher fuel pressure will push the float needle off the seat and not allow it to fully close and flooding will occur.

3) Add a safety shut off for the fuel pump. On the '88-95 Fuel pump FJ's the fuel pump power circuit runs thru the ignition box so when the ignition box stops sensing a tach signal (engine stopped) the power to the fuel pump stops after a few seconds.
You need to add this Safety feature to your early FJ: http://www.revolutionelectronics.com/Products/Fuel_Pump.html

Everything else is straight forward, pump, wiring, fuel filter, fuel line, etc...

Cheers.  Pat

Thanks Pat!
Steve
Columbia, Missouri
USA

Alf

Quote from: FJ1200W on August 04, 2021, 10:52:03 PM



1) the '84-85 vacuum petcock must be set on (P) Prime (open all the time)  For '86-87 petcocks that don't have this prime feature, you have to convert to a manual petcock or use a '84/85 petcock.


Be careful! 84/85 petcocks don't fit on 86/87 fuel tanks, the screw distance is different. I have to check if 88-93 petcocks fit on 86/87 tanks.


Cheers

RPM - Robert

Quote from: Alf on August 06, 2021, 01:17:31 PM
Quote from: FJ1200W on August 04, 2021, 10:52:03 PM



1) the '84-85 vacuum petcock must be set on (P) Prime (open all the time)  For '86-87 petcocks that don't have this prime feature, you have to convert to a manual petcock or use a '84/85 petcock.


Be careful! 84/85 petcocks don't fit on 86/87 fuel tanks, the screw distance is different. I have to check if 88-93 petcocks fit on 86/87 tanks.


Cheers

Alf you have it backwards. 84-87 all have the same bolt hole spacing and oval o-ring. The 89-95 fuel pump bikes will not fit in the earlier models, the spacing is closer together and the base is smaller.

Pat Conlon

Thanks Robert. :good:

It has been common to replace the wonky 86/87 (elect.reserve) petcock with the simpler (less expensive) '84/85 petcock.
1) Free Owners Manual download: https://tinyurl.com/fmsz7hk9
2) Don't store your FJ with E10 fuel https://tinyurl.com/3cjrfct5
3) Replace your old stock rubber brake lines.
4) Important items for the '84-87 FJ's:
Safety wire: https://tinyurl.com/99zp8ufh
Fuel line: https://tinyurl.com/bdff9bf3

Troyskie

What Pat said.

I've made that exact swap for my 86.
1984 FJ1100 Ms Effie brand new :)
1984 FJ1100 Pearlie, stock as.
1985 FJ1100 Mr Effie 647,000K and still running hard.
1985 FJ1200 'Yummy' takes a licking & keeps on ticking
2013 Trumpy Tiger 800, let's do another lap of Oz

After all is said and done, more is said than done :)

Alf

Quote from: Pat Conlon on August 06, 2021, 03:08:00 PM
Thanks Robert. :good:

It has been common to replace the wonky 86/87 (elect.reserve) petcock with the simpler (less expensive) '84/85 petcock.

I bought an 86 new petcock last month from an FJ owner that claimed it didnt fit on a 1100, hence my error. Thanks, guys

FJ1200W

Bled the front hydraulics today. Used almost a quart of fluid.
I used an old battery acid bottle and a clear hose, positioned at shown.
Squeeze the bottle before connecting to the bleeder, it wants to suck the fluid out, assisting with the bleeding.
The fuel pump controller arrived, pump should be here soon.
Progress
Steve
Columbia, Missouri
USA

FJ1200W

Another sign this bike sat a while. So glad noone tried to add gas and go.

I kinda dig the electronic reserve. But, not the vacuum shutoff  As the new fuel pump has a check valve in in, I'll probably make this one a "full flow" and add a small inline shut off to ease tank removal.
Steve
Columbia, Missouri
USA

FJ1200W

I'm thinking about making 10 or 20 of these.

Does anyone think there is any demand for them?

Anti-dive block off plates.
Steve
Columbia, Missouri
USA

red

Quote from: FJ1200W on August 08, 2021, 11:23:40 AMI'm thinking about making 10 or 20 of these.  Does anyone think there is any demand for them?  Anti-dive block off plates.
FJ1200W,

Are all years of anti-dive units the same?  I have a 1985 FJ1100.  I could use two.  What would they cost?
Cheers,
Red

P.S. Life is too short, and health is too valuable, to ride on cheap parade-duty tires.

FJ1200W

Quote from: red on August 08, 2021, 01:01:59 PM
Quote from: FJ1200W on August 08, 2021, 11:23:40 AMI'm thinking about making 10 or 20 of these.  Does anyone think there is any demand for them?  Anti-dive block off plates.
FJ1200W,

Are all years of anti-dive units the same?  I have a 1985 FJ1100.  I could use two.  What would they cost?

I'm waiting for my machinist to get back with me, I'll let you know!

84-86 should be the same

I bet these could be 3D printed - hummmmmm
Steve
Columbia, Missouri
USA

FJ1200W

Steve
Columbia, Missouri
USA

fj1289

Quote from: FJ1200W on August 07, 2021, 06:41:15 PM
Bled the front hydraulics today. Used almost a quart of fluid.
I used an old battery acid bottle and a clear hose, positioned at shown.
Squeeze the bottle before connecting to the bleeder, it wants to suck the fluid out, assisting with the bleeding.
The fuel pump controller arrived, pump should be here soon.
Progress

Steve - if you will make sure that bleeder line travels up from the bleeder valve, the column of fluid will act like a one-man bleeder: air bubbles will travel up and out, and bubble free fluid will flow back in

FJ1200W

Steve
Columbia, Missouri
USA

FJ1200W

Steve
Columbia, Missouri
USA