84 FJ1100 Dusted off After 10 yrs, Help

[Sparky84]

Just dusted off my FJ, Cleaned all the green puss from Carbies, Put a new battery in and it Started first push of the button.
A bit smokey, rough running and doesn't idle. Can anyone assist or suggest what I need to do now
Should I have put in new Jets instead of cleaning old ones.
I know I need to do brake lines but at present it stops just doesn't go real flash

[FJ1100mjk]

If it doesn't idle, I would bet that you need to go back into the carbs again and make certain that all the passages in the carb bodies a cleaned out. There's a variety ow ways to do this, with ultrasonic cleaning to be the method of choice. After ten years of sitting, you may need to do this. New o-rings throughout the carbs is a must to. You may need new float needles too, as well as new pilot jets. Buy those in size #40 too, if you get them. When done with that, make sure the float levels are set right.

If you have a non-OEM air filter that's foam, clean, then oil it. If it's an OEM one, replace it with like, or aftermarket. Put in new spark plugs that are gapped to spec, set your valve clearances to spec, start it, warm it up, set your idle to spec (if possible), and synchronize your carbs.

You'r bike's smoking can be related to a number of things, since it sat for ten years, it could be dried out valve seals. If it just smokes at start up, and doesn't burn oil outside of that, you can live with the smoke at start up. Your bike is due for a good running, once you get it sorted to the above.

There's a lot that is not covered, but the above is a start and there are many people that can help you here too, and I am sure that they will chime in.

I would suggest using Google to search for items and/or topics that you want info on. A lot of these things you have or will have questions on, have been asked about, and covered a number of times over the years on this site. When doing your Google searches, put FJowners.com in the search field with the information that you're looking for.

Good luck!

[FJmonkey]

The carbs need to be real clean. When you say does not idle, is that with or with out the choke? If without the choke then the pilot jets and or pilot circuits are still clogged. Clean them again. Get an ultrasonic tank from Harbor Freight, many here have good things to say about it.  

[The General]

Just dusted off my FJ, Cleaned all the green puss from Carbies, Put a new battery in and it Started first push of the button.
A bit smokey, rough running and doesn't idle. Can anyone assist or suggest what I need to do now
Should I have put in new Jets instead of cleaning old ones.
I know I need to do brake lines but at present it stops just doesn't go real flash

mmmmm....sounds like Aussie lingo.  Where ya from mate?   

[Sparky84]

If it doesn't idle, I would bet that you need to go back into the carbs again and make certain that all the passages in the carb bodies a cleaned out. There's a variety ow ways to do this, with ultrasonic cleaning to be the method of choice. After ten years of sitting, you may need to do this. New o-rings throughout the carbs is a must to. You may need new float needles too, as well as new pilot jets. Buy those in size #40 too, if you get them. When done with that, make sure the float levels are set right.

If you have a non-OEM air filter that's foam, clean, then oil it. If it's an OEM one, replace it with like, or aftermarket. Put in new spark plugs that are gapped to spec, set your valve clearances to spec, start it, warm it up, set your idle to spec (if possible), and synchronize your carbs.

You'r bike's smoking can be related to a number of things, since it sat for ten years, it could be dried out valve seals. If it just smokes at start up, and doesn't burn oil outside of that, you can live with the smoke at start up. Your bike is due for a good running, once you get it sorted to the above.

There's a lot that is not covered, but the above is a start and there are many people that can help you here too, and I am sure that they will chime in.

I would suggest using Google to search for items and/or topics that you want info on. A lot of these things you have or will have questions on, have been asked about, and covered a number of times over the years on this site. When doing your Google searches, put FJowners.com in the search field with the information that you're looking for.

Good luck!

Ok, so I'll pull carbies off and rebuild with new kits, no worries. Now size #40 pilot jets, I have looked but cannot seem to find any yet but will keep trying.

OEM air filter is new. Plugs are new. Valve Clearances haven't checked (always had a ticking noise while idling) yet, just trying to get it going first
Smoke has mostly gone
and yes it does need a good run

Thanks for the info

[Sparky84]

The carbs need to be real clean. When you say does not idle, is that with or with out the choke? If without the choke then the pilot jets and or pilot circuits are still clogged. Clean them again. Get an ultrasonic tank from Harbor Freight, many here have good things to say about it.  

Never did Idle with choke all the way on, and always did take a bit to warm and idle with no choke.

Turned the Idle screw up today and it did work but after a quick rev would stay at 2000 and slowly drop back but..
it seems to misfire or reluctant to rev up, really have to get the revs up to take off or it won't go but stall

I think as you have mentioned Clean the Carbies again, just have to find a Ultrasonic Tank that doesn't have to be shipped from Overseas

[Sparky84]

Just dusted off my FJ, Cleaned all the green puss from Carbies, Put a new battery in and it Started first push of the button.
A bit smokey, rough running and doesn't idle. Can anyone assist or suggest what I need to do now
Should I have put in new Jets instead of cleaning old ones.
I know I need to do brake lines but at present it stops just doesn't go real flash

mmmmm....sounds like Aussie lingo.  Where ya from mate?   

You are correct, Just a stones throw away from where Capt Cook stepped off

[FJ_Hooligan]

Did you remove the idle mixture screws when you cleaned the carbs?  If not, then you need to re-clean the idle circuit.  Everything must be removed from the carbs to get them really clean.  If you don't do that you're just wasting your time.

What you are describing is a classic symptom of a clogged idle circuit.  When you get it revved up, you are transitioning off the idle circuit and onto the needle circuit. 

[The General]

Just dusted off my FJ, Cleaned all the green puss from Carbies, Put a new battery in and it Started first push of the button.
A bit smokey, rough running and doesn't idle. Can anyone assist or suggest what I need to do now
Should I have put in new Jets instead of cleaning old ones.
I know I need to do brake lines but at present it stops just doesn't go real flash

mmmmm....sounds like Aussie lingo.  Where ya from mate?   

You are correct, Just a stones throw away from where Capt Cook stepped off

Haaaha.....A lot would wonder how I picked that!  Welcome friend.
Not only are we sophisticated but you got some great mates nearby that can physically help after ya had a second go at them carbs. (or sooner!). Heading down to the Gong, even Nowra to Bermagui! From central to the Blue mountains a couple and even central coast. Check out zeemaps under "introductions" or PM me anytime. (I`ll be in Wangi end of this month too!) 

[Sparky84]

Did you remove the idle mixture screws when you cleaned the carbs?  If not, then you need to re-clean the idle circuit.  Everything must be removed from the carbs to get them really clean.  If you don't do that you're just wasting your time.

What you are describing is a classic symptom of a clogged idle circuit.  When you get it revved up, you are transitioning off the idle circuit and onto the needle circuit. 

Mate, they and the pilot air jets were about the only ones I didn't take out, so yes I did waste my time then by the look of it.
I thought with the idle mixture screw it was above all the green puss but sounds like I was wrong,
I know I can take the mixture screws out without removing carbs but it cannot be that easy, can it?
The whole idle circuit needs to be blown clean, correct?

[Sparky84]

Just dusted off my FJ, Cleaned all the green puss from Carbies, Put a new battery in and it Started first push of the button.
A bit smokey, rough running and doesn't idle. Can anyone assist or suggest what I need to do now
Should I have put in new Jets instead of cleaning old ones.
I know I need to do brake lines but at present it stops just doesn't go real flash

mmmmm....sounds like Aussie lingo.  Where ya from mate?   

You are correct, Just a stones throw away from where Capt Cook stepped off

Haaaha.....A lot would wonder how I picked that!  Welcome friend.
Not only are we sophisticated but you got some great mates nearby that can physically help after ya had a second go at them carbs. (or sooner!). Heading down to the Gong, even Nowra to Bermagui! From central to the Blue mountains a couple and even central coast. Check out zeemaps under "introductions" or PM me anytime. (I`ll be in Wangi end of this month too!) 

I did see a couple close by, tried to pin my location, still waiting
Maybe didn't do it correctly, thanks

[ribbert]

You are correct, Just a stones throw away from where Capt Cook stepped off

That would make you our first member in Alice Springs, welcome.

Noel

[movenon]

Did you remove the idle mixture screws when you cleaned the carbs?  If not, then you need to re-clean the idle circuit.  Everything must be removed from the carbs to get them really clean.  If you don't do that you're just wasting your time.

What you are describing is a classic symptom of a clogged idle circuit.  When you get it revved up, you are transitioning off the idle circuit and onto the needle circuit. 

Mate, they and the pilot air jets were about the only ones I didn't take out, so yes I did waste my time then by the look of it.
I thought with the idle mixture screw it was above all the green puss but sounds like I was wrong,
I know I can take the mixture screws out without removing carbs but it cannot be that easy, can it?
The whole idle circuit needs to be blown clean, correct?

I am afraid there are no short cuts when it comes the cleaning the carbs.  It's the little stuff that gets you.  Pilot jets are so small and almost anything can plug them up.  If it were me I would pull the carbs and completely disassemble them, the emulsion tubes can also get plugged in the small side holes. Run some cleaner in all the holes and passage ways then blow them out at a minimum.

A few have been able to "improve" there running condition by removing the fuel/air screws and spraying cleaner down into the hole.  But that is a long shot. If you do don't loose the spring, washer or very small "O" ring on each fuel/air screw. You might try that an add some cleaner to the fuel then run it for awhile.

You know about unbolting the 2 rear sub frame bolts so you can tilt down the rear sub frame for more clearance to remove the air box easier ?  A lot of members have replaced that stock air box with Uni Pods http://www.rpmracingca.com/proddetail.asp?prod=Carb%3ARPMPod&cat=24. Biggest benefit to me is that it makes working on the carbs a lot easier plus added space.

There is some good information in the Files section on carbs and cleaning that might also help. Nice to hear your are waking up the FJ after a long sleep 
George

[Sparky84]

You are correct, Just a stones throw away from where Capt Cook stepped off

That would make you our first member in Alice Springs, welcome.

Noel

Sorry to get you excited Noel, I did mean Kurnell, Botany Bay. Probably phrased it wrong

[Sparky84]

Did you remove the idle mixture screws when you cleaned the carbs?  If not, then you need to re-clean the idle circuit.  Everything must be removed from the carbs to get them really clean.  If you don't do that you're just wasting your time.

What you are describing is a classic symptom of a clogged idle circuit.  When you get it revved up, you are transitioning off the idle circuit and onto the needle circuit. 

Mate, they and the pilot air jets were about the only ones I didn't take out, so yes I did waste my time then by the look of it.
I thought with the idle mixture screw it was above all the green puss but sounds like I was wrong,
I know I can take the mixture screws out without removing carbs but it cannot be that easy, can it?
The whole idle circuit needs to be blown clean, correct?

I am afraid there are no short cuts when it comes the cleaning the carbs.  It's the little stuff that gets you.  Pilot jets are so small and almost anything can plug them up.  If it were me I would pull the carbs and completely disassemble them, the emulsion tubes can also get plugged in the small side holes. Run some cleaner in all the holes and passage ways then blow them out at a minimum.

A few have been able to "improve" there running condition by removing the fuel/air screws and spraying cleaner down into the hole.  But that is a long shot. If you do don't loose the spring, washer or very small "O" ring on each fuel/air screw. You might try that an add some cleaner to the fuel then run it for awhile.

You know about unbolting the 2 rear sub frame bolts so you can tilt down the rear sub frame for more clearance to remove the air box easier ?  A lot of members have replaced that stock air box with Uni Pods http://www.rpmracingca.com/proddetail.asp?prod=Carb%3ARPMPod&cat=24. Biggest benefit to me is that it makes working on the carbs a lot easier plus added space.

There is some good information in the Files section on carbs and cleaning that might also help. Nice to hear your are waking up the FJ after a long sleep 
George

Where have you been George?
I will be looking for these 2 rear sub bolts, that would make it so much easier, I only loosened the air box which stayed in the frame and with a lot of difficulty removed the carbs.
With this information I won't even attempt just putting cleaner through the idle circuit, those carbs are coming out again.
I have read about 'the spring, the washer and the small o-ring'.