Hi.
Since i am planning to do some work on my 86 FJ1200 this winter, i thought i might keep all you FJ maniacs in the loop :rofl:
With a full time job and being a dad to two small ones (2,5 yr and 6 weeks:-) It's not always i got time on my side.. Guessing some of you might relate? :mocking:
This is the first picture i took after removing the saddle etc. All fairings will be stripped off as i want it repainted. Probably gonna order new fairings instead of all the work prepping them for paint..
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/3/2912_16_10_12_1_40_30.jpeg)
Quote from: keand3 on October 16, 2012, 02:49:41 PM
Hi.
Since i am planning to do some work on my 86 FJ1200 this winter, i thought i might keep all you FJ maniacs in the loop :rofl:
With a full time job and being a dad to two small ones (2,5 yr and 6 weeks:-) It's not always i got time on my side.. Guessing some of you might relate? :mocking:
This is the first picture i took after removing the saddle etc. All fairings will be stripped off as i want it repainted. Probably gonna order new fairings instead of all the work prepping them for paint..
(http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?action-gallery;sa=view;id=3935)
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/3/2912_16_10_12_1_40_30.jpeg)
After removing the windscreen, which by the way was cracked i discovered something funny with the fairing or cowling if you want.
There's an inner cover that surrounds the speedometer etc. which the fairing is covering on top. On each side you have thees "bars" (don't know what to call them) sticking up for the attachment of the windscreen.
One of thees bars has either been glued together or melted.. Either way it seems like it has to be cut i order to get it of.
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/3/2912_16_10_12_2_03_36.jpeg)
Looks like some hasty plastic repair. Get used to repairing plastic, the special 86/87 bits are no longer aval new. You can get things like the front fender but the upper fairing and lower chin are rare as hens teeth. If you find them new anywhere, but up the entire supply and offer it to the club. You will have buyers.
I stumbled across this fairing hanging from the ceiling of the local motorcycle salvage joint in Garden City, Idaho. I don't work there and have no involvement with there business I just spotted it hanging up there. It is probably still there if anyone wants it.
http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=3937 (http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=3937)
Quote from: FJmonkey on October 16, 2012, 03:39:50 PM
Looks like some hasty plastic repair. Get used to repairing plastic, the special 86/87 bits are no longer aval new. You can get things like the front fender but the upper fairing and lower chin are rare as hens teeth. If you find them new anywhere, but up the entire supply and offer it to the club. You will have buyers.
Yes and not a good one either. I am thinking about replacing the hole upper fairing with one from the guys from motorhead, Spain.
http://fairings.net/ (http://fairings.net/)
Cheers
Ken
Well, i found the inner panel (surrounding the speedometer) brand new, but what a price for a piece of pastic!
$227 at boats.net :scratch_one-s_head:
If i cant find a used one, well... Then its a Christmas present to my self :good2:
Got the front wheel and forks of today..
Pictures will come latet.
Cheers
Quote from: keand3 on October 18, 2012, 11:44:09 AM
Got the front wheel and forks of today..
Pictures will come later.
Cheers
Hi again.
The pictures took a while longer to get them uploaded. Been preoccupied with kids, exams and work so there has been little spare time to work on the bike.
There will be a lot of pictures in this post, so you are warned. :good2:
I finally got my new forks in. The were used ones and seems to be working good. Some cosmetic issues on the bottom, but i think that i could work something out :yes:
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/4/2912_25_10_12_2_05_50_1.jpeg)
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/4/2912_25_10_12_2_05_47_0.jpeg)
I swapped my old 86 forks in, end got this for free!! Couldn't say no to that!
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/4/2912_25_10_12_2_06_04_6.jpeg)
Ok, old parts will often look dirty, and used. That's normal, but this seem almost over the top. Had to wipe of debris before the pictures...
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/4/2912_25_10_12_2_06_01_5.jpeg)
I have also decided to order a new topfairing from fairings.net. An while I'm at it i also gonna order a lower fairing too.
Since the bike is gonna bee painted it saves me the sanding down work :-) Not only that, but the topfairing is showing evidence of old repairs, and some brackets is no longer there.
I am considering to get rid of it, but not before i am able to order the new ones.
Anyone interested?
Here are some pics of the fairing.
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/4/2912_25_10_12_2_14_17_3.jpeg)
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/4/2912_25_10_12_2_14_13_2.jpeg)
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/4/2912_25_10_12_2_14_11_1.jpeg)
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/4/2912_25_10_12_2_14_08_0.jpeg)
Cheers.
Ken
Quote from: keand3 on October 25, 2012, 03:26:04 AM
Quote from: keand3 on October 18, 2012, 11:44:09 AM
Got the front wheel and forks of today..
Pictures will come later.
Cheers
Hi again.
The pictures took a while longer to get them uploaded. Been preoccupied with kids, exams and work so there has been little spare time to work on the bike.
There will be a lot of pictures in this post, so you are warned. :good2:
I finally got my new forks in. The were used ones and seems to be working good. Some cosmetic issues on the bottom, but i think that i could work something out :yes:
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/4/2912_25_10_12_2_05_50_1.jpeg)
Surely the cosmetic issues you speak of comes from splitting all that wood.
Hehe...
Splitting wood with a fork does leave a few marks.. :good2:
On those fork lowers; use some paint stripper to remove the clear coating then take them to a powdercoater and get a nice sliver/grey finish put on them.
DavidR.
Quote from: SlowOldGuy on October 25, 2012, 05:57:34 PM
On those fork lowers; use some paint stripper to remove the clear coating then take them to a powdercoater and get a nice sliver/grey finish put on them.
DavidR.
Thanks for the tip David. I surely will do that :good2:
Order new brake lines today, hopefully it won't take too long to get them.
Also got an used FZR 1000 front wheel and a new brake m/c last week.
It's been a while since a posted my progress, must admit I've been a bit lazy lately.
After some issue with the wrong rims, if finally got the right ones today. Meanwhile since my last post i have gotten new brake pads and rotor, and some nuts and bolts and other accessories.
Have taken allot of pictures and have uploaded some. Will post them later.
Cheers
Ken
Okey, will upload the pictures as promised in my last post. Allthough this thread might be a similar to the thread i started in the Modification section. But I have confidence the the moderator would move them to were they belong anyway :good2:
Here's a picture of my new front tyre.
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/4/2912_09_01_13_10_13_22_2.jpeg)
I also got my self to new rims. One FJ and one FZ1.. I always like to keep a spare one just in case..
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/4/2912_09_01_13_10_13_16_0.jpeg)
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/4/2912_09_01_13_10_13_19_1.jpeg)
EBC brake pads to go with my Blue Dot Calipers...
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/4/2912_09_01_13_10_13_25_3.jpeg)
Nothing has really been mounted on the bike yet, as i am waiting for the rims the get sandblasted and powdercoated..
As i have replaced the brake lines with a new ones from Speigler, I am also considering to do the clutch line and rear line as well..
But I would like to get my hands on a FJR Clutch master before I do. Might as well do it proply :good2:
Mounted my new front wheel today. Freezing cold though! Unheated garage and its -20 C outside... Can't feel my toes or fingers but it's worth it :smile:
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/4/2912_12_02_13_6_24_51_0.jpeg)
You should get yourself a wood-burning stove!
Nice work.
/Nat
Quote from: WhiteBeard on February 12, 2013, 06:50:20 AM
You should get yourself a wood-burning stove!
Haven't thought of that! Could be i moved to the garage instead then :good2:... Don't know if the wife would agree to that though :pardon:
Looks great ! Hope to follow with the same mod soon ! When will your riding season start ? Catch a ferry and head for Southern France..... :).
George
Hi George!
The mod relativly simple, as I'm sure you are aware of :yes:
Riding season up her starts hopefully late April sometime... But we have had snow even i may so you never know :wacko3:
Are you lockated in southern France?
Cheers
Unfortunately no. I am In the U.S., Pacific North West, Idaho. Not as cold here as you but not riding weather either unless you really have to get out in it. A few weeks ago it was snow , black ice and inversions. Today it is right at freezing but the sun is out a little and the roads are 95% dry.
I to have been using the winter to work on the bike. Doing a GSXR rear wheel change. Now waiting on a seal to arrive. I located a front wheel and will try to get started on that in the next few weeks.
For most the riding around here starts in April and go's until Oct.. You can ride most of the winter IF roads are clear and you don't mind getting real cold in a very short distance. That takes all the fun out of it. I did that all one winter out of necessity and it wasn't fun especially on black ice or pack snow. It did teach me how how to have a light touch and to read the road.
Keep up the good work ! I like your wheel and tire combo...
George
Nah, I might still go to southern France :greeting:
That's the good thing about the winter time we got. Our girls gets a good and real treatment :good2:
The GSXR rear mod do look awesome! Considering it my self but I can't seem to make up my mind to which rear mod I should do. It's either the GSXR or the FZR 17" or 18"...
They all looks kick ass and the work is roughly the same... Will see.. It probably ends up with the one that have all the parts available when I'm ready to do it.
I know all about getting cold when riding, so i know how you feel.. Brr.. Specially the light touch you referring too! One wrong move and the tarmac is your best friend. :good2:
Quote from: WhiteBeard on February 12, 2013, 06:50:20 AM
You should get yourself a wood-burning stove!
Nice work.
/Nat
Yeah I just got myself a manshed comfort addition yesterday, from the tip.-
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/4/630_12_02_13_4_20_28.jpeg)
Ummm... a bit rusty but here`s a shot of me testing it`s temperature, don`t think ya can read the thermometer but it`s just above zero. (perfect)
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/4/630_12_02_13_4_36_32.jpeg)
(i hate having ta live in Queensland) He hehe :drinks:
Quote from: The General on February 12, 2013, 04:42:34 PM
Yeah I just got myself a manshed comfort addition yesterday, from the tip.-
Now just a hot plate and a flush, and you'd never have to leave the garage.
Quote from: The General on February 12, 2013, 04:42:34 PM
Yeah I just got myself a manshed comfort addition yesterday, from the tip.-
That looks cool (no pun intended...) :morning1:
If I need to cool my beer, I just put it next to my bike in the garage for a while. Just not for too long, as it
will freeze...
(popcorn)
If you lived in Tassie, you'd be able to stay pissed all the time (based on your beer preference)
Arnie
So, it's been a while since i posted any on this thread.
I finally got my bike to a good mechanic, and he took out the engine today.
He was stunned on how good the engine was compared to its age and mileage. Guess frequent oil change is good after all, ehh?
So went over to pick up some bits and pieces to be painted and took some photos. The mechanic would be finished with splitting the case etc tomorrow and would at that time have a good overview of what parts needs to be replaced and what needs to be done.
He has his vendors for parts, but he was very cooperative in to ordering the parts from Randy's. He build race engines for a living so when dealing with a old lady like this, it's best to get the right parts :good2:
More pictures will come.
Hey, monkey man!!! (FJMonkey) How's this for FJ porn?
Some came a bit out of focus, but you'll live :good2:
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/5/2912_17_06_13_2_27_20_0.jpeg)
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/5/2912_17_06_13_2_27_23_1.jpeg)
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/5/2912_17_06_13_2_27_29_3.jpeg)
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/5/2912_17_06_13_2_27_32_4.jpeg)
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/5/2912_17_06_13_2_27_35_5.jpeg)
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/5/2912_17_06_13_2_27_38_6.jpeg)
Quote from: Arnie on February 12, 2013, 07:23:58 PM
If you lived in Tassie, you'd be able to stay pissed all the time (based on your beer preference)
Arnie
would not of needed a fridge last night, in fact there's still frost in the shade
Quote from: keand3 on June 17, 2013, 03:38:03 PM
Hey, monkey man!!! (FJMonkey) How's this for FJ porn?
I love it!!!, I want to rebuild my 86' from the ground up so bad and fix all niggly bits that bother me.. Thanks for teasing me....
Nothing like a good teas... :good2:
Just rip that engine out and start tearing her down :smile:
More porn of engine parts are soon coming your way. Started paiting the engin today, hopefully it will turn out better then it was :wacko2:
Boy you must have a long winter to start tearing down in June?
:biggrin:
Jeff
Quote from: jscgdunn on June 18, 2013, 11:47:21 AM
Boy you must have a long winter to start tearing down in June?
:biggrin:
Jeff
O'boy do we ever! :yes:
There is actually no summers here. Only winter, one white and one green winter :lol:
This engine rebuild was originally schdueled this autumn (march/April), but got delayed from my mechanic. Something about a some cheap racing engine that had priority. :unknown:
Hope you get to ride it soon....you have put in a ton of work!
I hope so too Jeff. The work will hopfully last a long time :good2:
I'm guessing it would be at least another 2 weeks before I can ride it. Hopefully we have a overview of what parts we need to order, then it's only to wait their arrival en mounting her back together.
Cheers
Ken
Have been busy today painting some parts. As you will see of the photos I am not to keen on a glossy engine.
The only glossy I would like is the exhaust, or mufflers.
I was stupid enough not to take good before pictures but those parts were down right dirty and filed with all sorts of junk and debris. I'll tell you, the powerwash worked hard to get all the dirt of. :good2:
All parts have 3 layers of paint, except for the exhaust (muffler and collector), here I used the same paint as a primer and will add some more glossy stuff on it. The muffler ought too shine... at least some :yes:
I probably should have used another primer for the muffler, but will have to do. It will be changed after the season for one of Randy's systems :dance2:
Parts are ready to get clean.
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/5/2912_18_06_13_2_16_38_0.jpeg)
This picture doesn't show any of the pre-painted areas on this parts, but I throw it in here just to satisfy Monkey and his appetite for FJ porn. :good2:
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/5/2912_18_06_13_2_16_41_1.jpeg)
Here's 2 before picture of muffler and collectorbox. All the debris was a pain in the ars too to get of. Took a lot of sanding to get some areas smooth and good for paint.
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/5/2912_18_06_13_2_16_44_2.jpeg)
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/5/2912_18_06_13_2_16_47_3.jpeg)
This part is the only one I got around to curing the paint in the furnace. Damn that smells!! But turned out nice.
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/5/2912_18_06_13_2_16_56_6.jpeg)
The picture got a bit dark, but you can see the paint is good. All that is left is to cure it in the furnace, and polish it up.
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/5/2912_18_06_13_2_16_59_7.jpeg)
Not so much to say about it...
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/5/2912_18_06_13_2_17_02_8.jpeg)
This is the muffler primed and ready for a more glossy paint. The muffler originally was black with a stainless steel plate strapped around it. I sanded it down some to get the paint so sit more firmer.
It's too big to cure in the furnace, so I would give the bike a good spin when ready to get the paint cured. Any suggestions on the matter of obtain a nice glossy finish is appreciated. :drinks:
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/5/2912_18_06_13_2_17_05_9.jpeg)
This is tomorrows project:
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/5/2912_18_06_13_2_16_50_4.jpeg)
Cheers
Ken
Oh Yeah, nice restore job!!! :good2:
CraigO
Looking good mate, but how hot does your furnace get, there is a rubber type gasket in the main clutch cover center piece ,
Oh Yea!!! Keep it coming....
More fun to come later today guys. I tought that i might have filmed the process too and posted on the web, but thats kinda late now i guess :scratch_one-s_head:
Quote from: fj11.5 :dance:link=topic=7683.msg90594#msg90594 date=1371594335
Looking good mate, but how hot does your furnace get, there is a rubber type gasket in the main clutch cover center piece ,
It kinda sounds like i have a big ass furnace, might be bad choice of words from my part. Its a regular oven you have in you kitchen. Heats up to 250 or 300 c.
The paint i used is cured when baked in the oven for 1 hour at 200 degrees. :good2:
Quote from: FJmonkey on June 18, 2013, 06:20:13 PM
Oh Yea!!! Keep it coming....
Okey, here's a bunch more photos for ya! Just remember to clean up that drool :yahoo:
I tried to be a bit more orginized this time around when it comes to taking photos.... I hope.
Took pictures before and after they have meen cured in the oven. Don't know if it shows on the pictures, but I know you want to see it anyway :good2:
All the following pictures are shoots before they went in the oven...
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/5/2912_19_06_13_11_06_05_0.jpeg)
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/5/2912_19_06_13_11_06_08_1.jpeg)
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/5/2912_19_06_13_11_06_11_2.jpeg)
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/5/2912_19_06_13_11_06_14_3.jpeg)
All of the followinfg photos are after curing in oven:
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/5/2912_19_06_13_11_06_17_4.jpeg)
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/5/2912_19_06_13_11_08_01_2.jpeg)
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/5/2912_19_06_13_11_06_23_6.jpeg)
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/5/2912_19_06_13_11_06_26_7.jpeg)
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/5/2912_19_06_13_11_06_29_8.jpeg)
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/5/2912_19_06_13_11_08_04_3.jpeg)
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/5/2912_19_06_13_11_08_07_4.jpeg)
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/5/2912_19_06_13_11_08_13_6.jpeg)
Tomorrow I'll bee posting them exhaust photos i guess.. Depends if i manage to get them ready.
Cheers
Ken
Looking gooood mate, , are your headers stainless, if you were bored enough you could polish them, :biggrin:
Quote from: fj11.5 on June 19, 2013, 05:25:50 PM
Looking gooood mate, , are your headers stainless, if you were bored enough you could polish them, :biggrin:
Thanks, but no thanks :mocking:
Don't have time for it this time around im afraid.
Here is some more parts ready for the oven.
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/5/2912_20_06_13_12_38_40_0.jpeg)
I was putting on my third coat of clear this morning, and was a bit tired and my focus a bit of...
F#%€$ ars whoppin tow truck.... Got sloppy and did get too much on as the pictures shows...
Now i have to wait until it drys snd then sand it down and put evan more layers on... D'hoo..
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/5/2912_20_06_13_12_38_43_1.jpeg)
Cheers
Ken
All good, none of mine are polished, just black,
Quote from: fj11.5 on June 20, 2013, 02:56:20 AM
All good, none of mine are polished, just black,
All the cool guys goes for black :good2:
We do mate :good2:
Went over to the shop where my bike's at to take a look on how it's progressing.
The mechanic were really stunned of how good shape and condition this engine was in, there were almost no sign of any wear and tear that you would expect at this milage. Even the crank shaft and conrod bearings were in really good condition. Guess i was lucky when i bought it?
Not bad for a bike that has gone 107.000 km and almost 30 years old :good2:
Will be ordering some parts shortly, either tomorrow or Monday... depends. As of now I am looking at $950 to $1000 in parts..
Regarding the 2nd gear issue, he could not find that much fault in the gearbox. One fork was obviously worn (3?) other then that it looked really good. I had expected really worn teeth and so on, but the looked as good as new...
Anyway he will do the good job required to fix the gear issue :good2:
I took some photos while the block was on the workbench, enjoy! NO DRULING OVER MY GIRL NOW, Y'all hear? :rofl2:
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/5/2912_20_06_13_2_51_43_0.jpeg)
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/5/2912_20_06_13_2_51_46_1.jpeg)
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/5/2912_20_06_13_2_51_49_2.jpeg)
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/5/2912_20_06_13_2_51_52_3.jpeg)
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/5/2912_20_06_13_2_51_55_4.jpeg)
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/5/2912_20_06_13_2_51_58_5.jpeg)
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/5/2912_20_06_13_2_52_01_6.jpeg)
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/5/2912_20_06_13_2_52_04_7.jpeg)
Damn, all this photography stuff makes me hungry!!
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/5/2912_20_06_13_2_52_07_8.jpeg)
Man, I am totally getting a chubby looking at the innards of your motor. You are going to have one special FJ when you are done with all this work. Which speaks volumes as to the beauty of our beasts.
Right (ride) on, and thanks for the share,
CraigO
Gears need undercut for sure there in bad shape.
Stripped naked fj pics, this is getting serious :shok: :biggrin:,, not sure what the yummy looking thing in the pot is,but looks like one of the muppets :lol:
<b>Ooooooh, could you please weigh your bare crankshaft for me?
PLEASE!!! I would like to know what they weigh unmolosted. </b>
Quote from: skymasteres on June 20, 2013, 06:12:48 PM
<b>Ooooooh, could you please weigh your bare crankshaft for me?
PLEASE!!! I would like to know what they weigh unmolosted. </b>
I have that information all the time...
The range of the cranks is 27.2 to 30.0 of all of them I have weighed over the years.
I just pulled a crank that I am replacing from an engine today and it weighs 27.3lbs
Randy - RPM
Quote from: keand3 on June 20, 2013, 03:56:25 PM
Damn, all this photography stuff makes me hungry!!
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/5/2912_20_06_13_2_52_07_8.jpeg)
mmmm... Makes me think of Sweethearts for lunch. http://www.sweetheartscafe.com.au/ (http://www.sweetheartscafe.com.au/)
Nice & interesting pics by tha way.
Okey, could anyone tell me a bit more in detail about the undercut of the tranny? How much undercut is needed and on what? Read somewear its the upcut that needs undercuitting?
The parts related to the 1st and 2nd gear will be replaced along with the shift fork. A major undercut job will seariuly affect my budget and time frame, but will do what it takes to get it done.
Cheers
Quote from: keand3 on June 20, 2013, 11:13:03 PM
Okey, could anyone tell me a bit more in detail about the undercut of the tranny? How much undercut is needed and on what? Read somewear its the upcut that needs undercuitting?
The parts related to the 1st and 2nd gear will be replaced along with the shift fork. A major undercut job will seariuly affect my budget and time frame, but will do what it takes to get it done.
Cheers
I believe Randy @RPM sells new 1st and 2nd gears that are already undercut so no need to do any machining when you receive them. Send him a direct e-mail.
Fred
Quote from: aviationfred on June 20, 2013, 11:19:30 PM
I believe Randy @RPM sells new 1st and 2nd gears that are already undercut so no need to do any machining when you receive them. Send him a direct e-mail.
Fred
He does? If so then thats excellent news! Have been in contact with him and will be sending a list of needed parts shortly. Will be sure to ask him.
The 1st and 2nd gear would be the 2nd and 5th wheel pair on the shaft if i am not misstaken?
Ken
Quote from: Flying Scotsman on June 20, 2013, 04:57:47 PM
Gears need undercut for sure there in bad shape.
They do? I'm no mechanic so I can't argue with any mechanical insight I'm afraid, But the mechanic working on the bike doesn't seem to share that opinion. I trust him, but it's always nice to get more information and other insights and opinion since there is a ton of information and experience in this community. Wouldn't wont let that go to waste :good2:
Most of the gear wheels were in surprisingly very good shape. 3rd and 4th gear were the ones who had evidence of wear and would need to be replaced.
Have emailed a list of parts needed to Randy so I would hopefully put in an order today. Need to get clarified if it's enough to order the 3rd and 4th gearwheel (pre-undercut if available) and shift fork to erase the gear issues.
The time here now is 09:30Am and theres a good 9 hours difference to SoCal, so now I only have to wait for Randy to wake up and get to work :lol:
Cheers
Ken
The gears look ok but the dogs and drivers need cut.Pics show a big radius there.When they are rounded of like that they wont hold.Undercuting puts an angle on them that locks them together tight and removes the radius.If they were real bad they might weld them first then cut them.I have done 2 of my bikes after buying them cheaper because of 2nd gear issues.I bought gear sets complete of of ebay that were already undercut.That way I had all the parts I needed before I started.Had to do the 90 and the 85 the 86 is good the 84 I have not had out so it might need done I dont know yet.I now have 2 old sets so I could also send them off to get cut.Shift forks wear and can bend the earlier year forks are smaller and weaker than later year forks so its highly recomended to use later year forks.
Undercutting is easy if you have the right tools once you get set up it would take about 5 min to compleate.
So, would you recommend me to get them all undercut, and not just the two im replacing?
I would. :good:
It migh be a stupid question, but how many gears would need undercuting?
http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=1407 (http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=1407)
http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=1404 (http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=1404)
http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=1403 (http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=1403)
I count 8 gears thst would need undercut, am i correct?
Will see if Randy has any gears i might add, or search ebay.
Yes I think thats right.Fast by Gast is who did at least one set of mine.I think he does some for Randy as well.I think Randy stocks anything you would need to do the job.I would talk to him for advice.
I would get upshift and downshift sides cut dont remember if there was 3 or 4 sets to cut :dash2:
Quote from: Flying Scotsman on June 21, 2013, 12:33:07 PM
I would get upshift and downshift sides cut dont remember if there was 3 or 4 sets to cut :dash2:
Quote from: Flying Scotsman on June 21, 2013, 12:30:21 PM
Yes I think thats right.Fast by Gast is who did at least one set of mine.I think he does some for Randy as well.I think Randy stocks anything you would need to do the job.I would talk to him for advice.
Will be awaiting a answer from randy, if he has them pre-undercutt i would try to order some. Did get some prices for undercutting the trans. but it is waaay to expensive over here....
Have just a few more pictures this time.
Been struggling with the clear coat on the mufflers, as I seem to have beed impatient with laying the layers.. And that impatient have a cost, a cost of more labor! :dash1:
This is the second time i am doing this, sanding imperfections down so I once again have a smooth surface to lay the coat on.
I noticed that there were some small color changes a few spots, after I laid the final coat yesterday. It seems too be a much lighter black coat, but it has come days after I laid down the 2 first clear coats. It's also in areas were I haven't done any sanding so the clear coat must have caused it. The muffler is rapped in a stainless steel plate, might that have caused it? There is 6 layers of black coat on it, so the base layers are rock solid! :scratch_one-s_head:
Regardless of the imperfections, I am still satisfied withe the result. The muffler will be replaced during the winter after all :good2: That is if all goes as planed, which they rarely do...
This is some before pictures, will take some after pics too, but will let the clear harden and buff the muffler first :yahoo:
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/5/2912_22_06_13_2_18_11_0.jpeg)
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/5/2912_22_06_13_2_18_14_1.jpeg)
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/5/2912_22_06_13_2_18_17_2.jpeg)
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/5/2912_22_06_13_2_18_20_3.jpeg)
Well, i must say, there is allways more parts you need then you think. Good thing we have RPM then :good2:
Con.rod bearings, crankshaft bearings and new stud bolts is in house, now the only thing left to accuire is:
1 Shift Fork - Right
1 Shift Fork - Center
1 Shift Fork - Left
1 Intake Manifold Set
1 Yamaha 17T Drive Sprocket
1 Yamaha Drive Spocket Lock
1 Undercut transmission
Orders are in for the all the parts, except the transmission (not in from the undercutter yet)
I order just the front sprocket cause I'll be doing the FZR rear mod soon, and will be changing chain and sprockets then. Have not decided for which combo to go for yet, but thats a problem for another time. :i_am_so_happy:
Went over to my mechanic place to do some cleaning on the lower frame parter.
Damn, it was hard labure for 2 hours to get it clean. And still there are some spots left.
I went through 2 brushes and tons of chem. and water. Amazing how hard 30 year old dirt becomes, like concrete glued to the frame.
Here's the old before picture.
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/5/2912_17_06_13_2_27_29_3.jpeg)
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/5/2912_27_06_13_12_38_56_0.jpeg)
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/5/2912_27_06_13_12_39_02_2.jpeg)
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/5/2912_27_06_13_12_39_05_3.jpeg)
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/5/2912_27_06_13_12_39_08_4.jpeg)
Cheers
Ken
Looks great mate :good2:,could you come down and clean mine,ill take effie,s engine out, but you'll have to work around the other two :biggrin:
Quote from: fj11.5 on June 27, 2013, 05:29:36 PM
Looks great mate :good2:,could you come down and clean mine,ill take effie,s engine out, but you'll have to work around the other two :biggrin:
Sure thing, if you pay for the ticket and keep up the supply of beer, I'm there! :good2:
Quote from: keand3 on June 28, 2013, 03:22:34 AM
Quote from: fj11.5 on June 27, 2013, 05:29:36 PM
Looks great mate :good2:,could you come down and clean mine,ill take effie,s engine out, but you'll have to work around the other two :biggrin:
Sure thing, if you pay for the ticket and keep up the supply of beer, I'm there! :good2:
I like Tassie beer so I might go with you. :drinks: All I need is a ticket also. Pete.
Quote from: oldktmdude on June 28, 2013, 08:06:21 AM
Quote from: keand3 on June 28, 2013, 03:22:34 AM
Quote from: fj11.5 on June 27, 2013, 05:29:36 PM
Looks great mate :good2:,could you come down and clean mine,ill take effie,s engine out, but you'll have to work around the other two :biggrin:
Sure thing, if you pay for the ticket and keep up the supply of beer, I'm there! :good2:
I like Tassie beer so I might go with you. :drinks: All I need is a ticket also. Pete.
mmm...$374 (max) includes return tickets for bike and 1 Cabin berth over (recliner return)... If I had the time...I would do Phillip Island World Super Bikes 23rd Feb followed by a week around Tassie followed by a tour of tha Snowy mountains :yahoo: for the Aussie Anniversary FJ Rally...Now who was it that voted for the Rally ta be in Tassie?..If you were coming from the North You would have had to allocate the same time away anyhow?...Actually from nearly any direction the time factor isn`t that much different...mmmm...A new thread required me thinks...
Quote from: The General on June 28, 2013, 11:55:05 AM
mmm...$374 (max) includes return tickets for bike and 1 Cabin berth over (recliner return)... If I had the time...I would do Phillip Island World Super Bikes 23rd Feb followed by a week around Tassie followed by a tour of tha Snowy mountains :yahoo: for the Aussie Anniversary FJ Rally...Now who was it that voted for the Rally ta be in Tassie?..If you were coming from the North You would have had to allocate the same time away anyhow?...Actually from nearly any direction the time factor isn`t that much different...mmmm...A new thread required me thinks...
I think you may be on to something here Doug. Better start saving some extra beer money. :biggrin: Pete.
nope heading to the U.S. again next year may not even do the Aussie rally :blum2:
Baldy
Finally! The last pieces were order today.
Randy got in the undercut transmission today, so I got ahead and order one, plus a new clutch slave.
All I got to now is to wait for my mechanic to get home from vacation.
Cheers
Ken
Quote from: keand3 on July 10, 2013, 02:51:59 PM
Finally! The last pieces were order today.
Randy got in the undercut transmission today, so I got ahead and order one, plus a new clutch slave.
All I got to now is to wait for my mechanic to get home from vacation.
Cheers
Ken
You mean you let your wife leave the house... :lol: :lol: :lol:
:rofl2: :rofl2: :good2:
Picked up the package from Randy today, containing the new undercut transmission and a new clutch slave cylinder :good2: :good2:
I should have all the parts needed to put her back together... So now it back to waiting.... again.... :dash2: :dash2:
Will be uploading pictures of the parts as soon as i have taken those pictures..
Cheers you dirty guys...(fjporn) :bye:
Ken
As promised, here's some photos of the recent parts I received from Randy!
The parts look amazing, and I can't wait to get the bike put together.
Grab a bear and start drewling over the few photos of RPM's magnificent parts!!
Thanks Randy, for shipping them so fast. From what I understood the transmission went in the door on Friday, just to be repacked and shipped right out again just few hours later :good2: :good2:
Here's the new slave cylinder.. It will guarantee a perfect result compared to the risk of new leaks with rebuilding the old one. I'm not saying the old one would be any worse then the new one (yes I am :rofl: )
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/5/2912_20_07_13_3_29_18_4.jpeg)
A few pictures of the undercut transmission. The transmission I would say is in pristine condition.
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/5/2912_20_07_13_3_29_16_3.jpeg)
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/5/2912_20_07_13_3_29_13_2.jpeg)
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/5/2912_20_07_13_3_29_10_1.jpeg)
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/5/2912_20_07_13_3_29_07_0.jpeg)'
Cheers
Ken
No jumping out of gear with those parts lol.................
Quote from: Flying Scotsman on July 21, 2013, 07:46:28 AM
No jumping out of gear with those parts lol.................
Hopfully not :good2: :good2:
You are going to love cracking the throtle open now.
Quote from: Flying Scotsman on July 21, 2013, 07:52:02 AM
You are going to love cracking the throtle open now.
Oooo yes :good2:
After waiting almost 2 month soon to get this rebuild ready, I'm gonna drive as long as the riding season allows me to before the snow and ice gets here :bye2:
Been there done that.
Update!
Last part came in today from Randy. Bikes probably gonna be reassembled by the end of the week, hopefully.
I am to busy at work to be able to take photos of the process, but I will try to get some if I can.
I will how ever upload some photos when it's done, and maybe some video on Youtube of riding and putting the "new engine" and transmission to the test.
Cheers
Ken
Okey, the bike is finally done!! I picked up last night and drowe it home... And my god! What a bike!!
The sound, the feel and response from the engine is Perfect!
It has certainly been worth the wait. The bike has been finished some time, but I haven't had the opportunity to pick it up until last night. Unfortunately I have not had the opportunity to take fj porn pictures during the reassembly, but i will perhaps but out a youtube video instead.
Randy! The gearbox is outstanding!! The best investment i ever made. Thanks.
Cheers
Ken
Hade some spare time at work today, so took some pictures for you guys to drewl over.
The mufflers, engine etc have been painted matt black.
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/5/2912_01_09_13_6_17_06_7.jpeg)
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/5/2912_01_09_13_6_17_03_6.jpeg)
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/5/2912_01_09_13_6_17_00_5.jpeg)
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/5/2912_01_09_13_6_16_57_4.jpeg)
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/5/2912_01_09_13_6_16_54_3.jpeg)
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/5/2912_01_09_13_6_16_51_2.jpeg)
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/5/2912_01_09_13_6_16_48_1.jpeg)
(http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?action-gallery;sa=view;id=5671)
As a bonus, check this out:
FJ1200 engine at idle (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnDuAua3JBA#)
Looking and sounding really good Ken, great job!!! :good2:
Quote from: FJmonkey on September 01, 2013, 08:31:47 AM
Looking and sounding really good Ken, great job!!! :good2:
Thanks Mark. Best investment i ever did! :good2:
Great work mate :good2:, like the white wheels, thought of painting my front to match the gsxr ,but would of stood out a lot on a black bike :biggrin:,,, I'm glad someone else has rain too
Rain is nice... Snow on the otherhand, not so much :good2:
Guess you've guys down in new zeland is fairly used to rain..? From what ive heard its more rain the anything else? If it only rained chicks and usd forks :rofl2:
Cheers mate
Do like an 86 with white wheels. Well, one at least.
Beware of a white rear wheel, you'll be forever cleaning it. Had an 89 VFR750, red with white wheels. Looked great just after a bath, but a few miles later the wheels looked like they'd been at the bottom of the sea for a century.
Andy
Quote from: andyoutandabout on September 02, 2013, 01:44:52 AM
Do like an 86 with white wheels. Well, one at least.
Beware of a white rear wheel, you'll be forever cleaning it. Had an 89 VFR750, red with white wheels. Looked great just after a bath, but a few miles later the wheels looked like they'd been at the bottom of the sea for a century.
Andy
I figured one would be enough... :lol:
Nah, i have a FZR rim for the back too, just haven't got around to it yes. Its soon winter up here so i will have it done by next season.
I know how much cleaning the front require, can only imagine the back... Luckily i am a cleaning fanatic so i like a good challenge :good2:
White rims look awesome, so i think its worth the effort.. :yes:
Cheers
Rain chics and rpm parts all it wants,, and you could never have enough fj,s :biggrin:,, and just for the record ,I'm on the other island , not new zealand :lol:
Quote from: fj11.5 on September 02, 2013, 02:28:48 AM
I'm on the other island , not new zealand :lol:
Ahh... So your on the little one then, eh? :biggrin:
Funny how it is when youve done something to the bike, and the "to do" list just keep on growing? :good2:
Shit, I just added the exhaust to the list for this winter... Hopefully Randy have them ready by then...
Would soon need a second job just to feed the moditus budget.... :dash2:
Quote from: keand3 on September 02, 2013, 02:15:48 AM
White rims look awesome, so i think its worth the effort.. :yes:
That is of course, up to you. In my case, if I could find the Japanese man that designed my GSX-R to have white wheels: I would slap him.
They are a royal pain in the ass to clean.
Dan
(popcorn)
Somehow, slapping a japanese designer kinda reminds me of all the weird tvshows they got :wacko1:
But i do agree that white rims are alot of work though... :pardon:
Quote from: keand3 on September 02, 2013, 09:40:16 AM
(popcorn)
Somehow, slapping a japanese designer kinda reminds me of all the weird tvshows they got :wacko1:
But i do agree that white rims are alot of work though... :pardon:
Black isn't any better.... :dash2: Also hard to keep clean.
George
Quote from: movenon on September 02, 2013, 05:50:14 PM
Black isn't any better.... :dash2: Also hard to keep clean.
George
I've had, and had to clean, both black and white wheels George. White is orders of magnitude worse, seems to me.
White wheels are simply not worth the aesthetics, such that they may be. I have actually seriously considered having my white wheels painted black.
Dan
This thread needs an update!!!
:biggrin:
(http://static1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100624001723/dragcave/images/7/7f/I-am-monitoring-this-thread.jpg)
:rofl2: :rofl2:
I concur the White wheels are a major Pain In the Ass to keep clean, I have them... But they look really good on my Ambulance colored 86'. If you don't want them... Don't get them.. Nuff said....
Lube chain... Clean rear wheel... Ride... Clean rear wheel.... Lube chain... Clean rear wheel, Lube chain..... Etc...
My Gixxer has white wheels. If I could find the Japanese engineer/ designer that thought this was a good idea, I swear I'd punch him.
White wheels suck.
Dan
Quote from: Dan Filetti on February 14, 2014, 08:08:16 PM
White wheels [look great when clean and] suck [when dirty].
Dan
Fixed it for you Dan...
FYI, they are dirty way more then when they are clean.... Listen to Dan... Its like polishing, you accept it... Or reject it...
Quote from: FJmonkey on February 14, 2014, 08:18:02 PM
Quote from: Dan Filetti on February 14, 2014, 08:08:16 PM
White wheels [look great when clean and] suck [when dirty].
Dan
Fixed it for you Dan...
FYI, they are dirty way more then when they are clean.... Listen to Dan... Its like polishing, you accept it... Or reject it...
That is why I did my rims in Silver, they still show dirt and grime, but not as bad as White.
Fred
Ride, eat, wash, sleep and repeat... :good2:
I love the white rims, and don't mind the cleaning part. :wacko3:
WhitBeard, which color will your rims end up with?
I would like to polish the edges and tape them off, then powder coat the rest black, just like Jake (jvb_ca on the forum) did.
http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?topic=2830.msg24601#msg24601 (http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?topic=2830.msg24601#msg24601)
Looks close to stock, but still bitchen, IMO.
:yahoo:
Quote from: WhiteBeard on February 15, 2014, 12:50:58 AM
I would like to polish the edges and tape them off, then powder coat the rest black, just like Jake (jvb_ca on the forum) did.
http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?topic=2830.msg24601#msg24601 (http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?topic=2830.msg24601#msg24601)
Looks close to stock, but still bitchen, IMO.
:yahoo:
Yes it does! That would be my second choice if i didn't go for the white :good2: