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Started by fj11.5, March 18, 2013, 05:47:44 AM

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FJmonkey

Quote from: movenon on March 18, 2013, 06:54:35 PM
Damn.... Guess I will be replacing my off brand master link clip on chain SOON... Think I located a EK 530ZZZ for 139.00. Still getting educated... I thought because I am not a hard rider that it would be OK but it sounds like most of them "let go" chains happened while not doing anything abnormal...
I am glad it did not tear up your case FJ 11.5. Still a pain in the ass to deal with. I am glad you were not hauling ass down the road at the time.
George

Get some safety wire, or some thin wire and wire the clip on. wrap the wire around the skinny narrow part of the link a few times, twist, cut, and fold flat.  :good:
The glass is not half full, it was engineered with a 2X safety factor.

'86 Ambulance - Bent frame, cracked case, due for an overhaul
'89 Stormy Blue - Suits my Dark Side

movenon

I have heard of doing that but never tried it. Work is still in progress on the FJ so I think that I will just get a new chain while its down. I put new wheels, tires, modded the rear shock, new linkage and wheel bearings, trimmed the rear fender, modded the taillight, new front and rear sprocket. Today I am flushing the front forks...... I hope to get it back on the road in a couple of weeks. Trying to get the FJ safe and reliable enough for the WCR. At least that's the first goal.   :dash1:

I suppose asking what chain to get is like asking a tire or the much dreaded oil question... But I will throw it out. The FJ is a bit of a throw back for me. All the road bikes that I have owned were shaft driven (BMW's). Had a lot of dirt bikes in the early years.
George
Life isn't about having the best, but about making the best of what you have...

1990 FJ 1200

oldktmdude

Quote from: movenon on March 18, 2013, 08:32:32 PM

I suppose asking what chain to get is like asking a tire or the much dreaded oil question... But I will throw it out. The FJ is a bit of a throw back for me. All the road bikes that I have owned were shaft driven (BMW's). Had a lot of dirt bikes in the early years.
George
EK ZZZ
1985 FJ1100 x2 (1 sold)
2009 TDM 900
1980 Kawasaki Z1R Mk11 (sold and still regretting it)
1979 Kawasaki Z650 (sold)
1985 Suzuki GSXR 400 x2 (next project)
2001 KTM 520 exc (sold)
2004 GasGas Ec300
1981 Honda CB 900 F (sold)
1989 Kawasaki GPX 600 Adventure

baldy3853

Quote from: Pat Conlon on March 18, 2013, 03:43:56 PM
Yep, also happened to me.

Not on my FJ,  but in 1975 on my Honda CB500. I was on the I-10 freeway in Los Angeles in rush hour traffic 70 mph bumper to bumper, when the chain snapped and wound itself around the back sprocket, locking up the back tire.

Wow, that was exciting. I almost died that day..

Thank God cell phones were not invented yet, and the drivers behind me were paying attention.

Lesson learned, only the best chains for me....

Good grief Pat am still smiling at this  :biggrin: not at the fact u almost died but ur comment  that there were no cell ph's about!!

Is a very good point about buying very good quality anything for your bike its dangerous enough without taking chances on poor quality supplies, Glad you survived to tell the story  :yahoo:
Baldy

movenon

Quote from: oldktmdude on March 18, 2013, 08:41:09 PM
Quote from: movenon on March 18, 2013, 08:32:32 PM

I suppose asking what chain to get is like asking a tire or the much dreaded oil question... But I will throw it out. The FJ is a bit of a throw back for me. All the road bikes that I have owned were shaft driven (BMW's). Had a lot of dirt bikes in the early years.
George
EK ZZZ

530 EK ZZZ ,  157.00 to the front door. Looks like it might be the winner. Hate to spend the money but I hate tearing up the bike even more.... :yes:
George
Life isn't about having the best, but about making the best of what you have...

1990 FJ 1200

fj11.5

that looks like the chain to buy, not that effie will need one for awhile, , wont be going far under her own power  :dash1:,, have taken some pics will post them later,, should of taken a pic showing the chain bunched up between the front sprocket and the rear engine mount, guess thats what broke it
unless you ride bikes, I mean really ride bikes, then you just won't get it

84 Fj1100  effie , with mods
( 88 ) Fj 1200  fairly standard , + blue spots
84 Fj1100 absolutely stock standard, now more stock , fitted with Fj12 twin system , no rusted headers for this felicity jayne

Steve_in_Florida

Really sorry to hear your news.

Looking forward to pictures.

Steve


`90 FJ-1200
`92 FJ-1200

IBA # 54823

movenon

Quote from: fj11.5 on March 19, 2013, 12:58:21 AM
that looks like the chain to buy, not that effie will need one for awhile, , wont be going far under her own power  :dash1:,, have taken some pics will post them later,, should of taken a pic showing the chain bunched up between the front sprocket and the rear engine mount, guess thats what broke it

Examining closely the chain what gave way ? A normal link or a master ? Was the chain in good adjustment ?  I am just rambling here, inquiring minds and all..

The Ek 530ZZZ and EK 530ZVX2 both look pretty good in the EK line up. The ZZZ is slightly better in the strength and a better wear index. Only about 25.00 price difference between the two. Probably the best value is really the ZZZ for only 25 bucks more.

Spec's        strength   wear  index
530 ZZZ    11,100    1700    Up to 1400cc    Rivet    Softnose pin
530 ZVX2    10,560    1500    Up to 1400cc    Rivet    Softnose pin

Data from: http://www.motionpro.com/motorcycle/articles/view/318/chain_and_master_link_specifications/

The DID 530 ZVM2 chain is good also. Just another step up in money........ :dash2:
530ZVM2    10,370    5,180    Up to 1300cc    Rivet type link    Hollow nose type rivet link

I am not pushing this place and have never ordered anything from them but there price seems good.
http://www.indysuperbike.com/customer/product.php?productid=700059

George
Life isn't about having the best, but about making the best of what you have...

1990 FJ 1200

rktmanfj

Quote from: movenon on March 19, 2013, 08:52:25 AM
I am not pushing this place and have never ordered anything from them but there price seems good.
http://www.indysuperbike.com/customer/product.php?productid=700059

George

I don't know anything about them either, but I'll be checking them out, since they're only 20 minutes or so from here.    :yes:


Randy T
Indy

Blessed be the LORD my strength, which teacheth my hands to war, and my fingers to fight.
Psalms 144:1

'89 FJ1200
'90 FJ1200
'78 XT500
'88 XT350


movenon

Quote from: not a lib on March 19, 2013, 07:35:23 PM
Quote from: movenon on March 19, 2013, 08:52:25 AM
I am not pushing this place and have never ordered anything from them but there price seems good.
http://www.indysuperbike.com/customer/product.php?productid=700059

George

I don't know anything about them either, but I'll be checking them out, since they're only 20 minutes or so from here.    :yes:




That's handy ! I was just WEB trolling for chain prices and came across them. Small world !
George
Life isn't about having the best, but about making the best of what you have...

1990 FJ 1200

Bozo

Just got back home from the OZ rally today and read this subject, sorry about the bad luck you had with the case breaking.
I have a 530ZVX2 on my scooter and the bugger now has 54K Klms (I do lube the chain well), unfortunately even though the sprockets look good the chain now has a tight spot, I am wondering if when your adjusted your chain you might've had a bad tight spot (which could explain the noise before it broke) combined with a cheaper chain. A tight spot might not be easy to find, the only way is to rotate the wheel and check if it binds in one area while in other areas it appears loose.
First major bike in my life was a Mach III widow maker.
My Second permanent bike 1978 Z1R (owned since Dec 1977)
My Third permanent bike is the 89 FJ12 - nice and fast
Forth bike 89 FJ12 my totally standard workhorse
81 GPZ1100 hybrid - what a bike, built to sell but I can't part with it

HARTLESS

I just contacted the po of my fj w sent me a receipt of the chain purchase. 7/15/12 and it was an rx racing chain 530xsoz1-110 x-ring.  Is that any good? Looked it up an I think it's only rated at 9500lbs/ft.... Anyone used one? ( reasons like this I saved the po's number. He probably hates me)
STRIVE FOR PERFECTION, SETTLE FOR EXCELENCE

I ride HARTLESS or don't ride at all!

Arnie

I seem to remember using a RK brand SXO chain on my RG500.  It was fine there, but the RG isn't the torque monster the FJ is. 
I wouldn't replace it because of that, but would try and keep a close eye on it to see if it requires frequent adjustment (means its stretching) and I'd keep it oiled.
I'd guess that you'll get 30,000 kms or more from it if you keep it oiled.

Arnie

Quote from: HARTLESS on March 20, 2013, 12:45:25 PM
I just contacted the po of my fj w sent me a receipt of the chain purchase. 7/15/12 and it was an rx racing chain 530xsoz1-110 x-ring.  Is that any good? Looked it up an I think it's only rated at 9500lbs/ft.... Anyone used one? ( reasons like this I saved the po's number. He probably hates me)

JMR

 The fact is the upper case is broken? What's your plan. Chain talk is nice but you have bigger issues IMO. Weld it up etc.

HARTLESS

Thanks, never owned a chain driven
Bike ( except dirt bikes ) so I have never had
To worry about it. I'm glad I read this thread! Sorry about the thread jacking. Hope that your bike fixes up easy and your back on the road soon


Quote from: Arnie on March 20, 2013, 08:38:21 PM
I seem to remember using a RK brand SXO chain on my RG500.  It was fine there, but the RG isn't the torque monster the FJ is. 
I wouldn't replace it because of that, but would try and keep a close eye on it to see if it requires frequent adjustment (means its stretching) and I'd keep it oiled.
I'd guess that you'll get 30,000 kms or more from it if you keep it oiled.

Arnie

Quote from: HARTLESS on March 20, 2013, 12:45:25 PM
I just contacted the po of my fj w sent me a receipt of the chain purchase. 7/15/12 and it was an rx racing chain 530xsoz1-110 x-ring.  Is that any good? Looked it up an I think it's only rated at 9500lbs/ft.... Anyone used one? ( reasons like this I saved the po's number. He probably hates me)
STRIVE FOR PERFECTION, SETTLE FOR EXCELENCE

I ride HARTLESS or don't ride at all!