my baby is broken

fj11.5 · March 21, 2013, 04:37:47 AM

thanks for the info guys,, ive posted pics of the damage,, the enging mount being the biggest concern ,, pics are in my gallery thingo, because this cheap arse tablet wouldnt post them on this page,, ive sourced the clutch pushrod from someones cat, and a sprocket cover, but trying to work out if dropping the engine out to have it welded would be easier than trailering the whole bike somewhere, , or swapping the engine from the ambulance till i get the cash to have effie welded up, , not a big job from what i can tell, but ppl like to charge full on sometimes

Dan Filetti · March 21, 2013, 09:22:44 AM

Quote from: fj11.5 on March 21, 2013, 04:37:47 AM
pics are in my gallery thingo, because this cheap arse tablet wouldnt post them on this page,, ive sourced the clutch pushrod from someones cat, and a sprocket cover

I fixed it for you. The damage does not look too bad, from my untrained eye. Am I missing it or were the cases not actually punctured?

Dan

fj11.5 · March 21, 2013, 02:48:27 PM

awesome, thanks dan,, no chain puncture, but where the spk cover bolts on,middle bolt opposite engine mount its severed the mount, can see the break, thats the cause of my leak, the mount moves when wiggled gently , lots of hairline fractures not visible in pics

yamaha fj rider · March 24, 2013, 12:49:48 AM

FJ11.5 sorry about effie but glad you were not hurt and things did not turn out worse.

Kurt

fj11.5 · April 02, 2013, 01:46:14 AM

after what i found at the weekend im glad i still have the rear carry rack on,, when the chain let go its flicked up over the chain gaurd and smashed the small plastic frame cover between the tail light and side cover, only piece left was what was bolted on, if the bracket for the rack wasnt there it would of hit my leg too,,, but some good news, with some luck and a bit of wiggling i managed to remove whats left of the clutch push rod, using an old fj sump plug, with the magnet built in, was broken off about 5 mm inside the housing

so wouldnt slide straight out because it was clear of the hole

FJmonkey · April 02, 2013, 08:11:45 AM

Wow! One more reason to use strong chains, breaking a case is really bad, that chain hitting your leg... Another reason for proper gear as well.

fj11.5 · April 02, 2013, 10:00:37 PM

wouldnt like to find out how much damage a chain would do to flesh and bone, leathers or not, , glad i was going slow

fj11.5 · April 09, 2013, 10:07:37 PM

small up your date, ,, clutch push rod and cover just arrived,, seems there is a difference between a 1990 3cv and an 84 1100 sprocket cover, didnt notice from the ebay pic, but the later one has a different type of hole for the gear selector shaft, slightly smaller dia, with a seal either side, , where the 84 has a leading edge taper inside and no seals, , also the plate inside is larger on the 90 ,, thinking i should break out the dremel but dont want to ruin a perfectly good cover, just to find out it wont fit anyway,,

fj11.5 · April 10, 2013, 12:23:47 AM

this could be a stupid or expensive question , but when the clutch pushrod snapped, anything besides the ball bearing that could move left to stop the pushrod going in completely, seems to be out at least 4mm to far and stops the clutch slave from bolting on easily as it should, piston all the way in

Pat Conlon · April 10, 2013, 01:08:28 AM

Did you get a FJ push rod? I recall that the XJR rods are longer to accommodate the longer countershaft and wider sprocket cover.
Measure the rod and let's see what you have...

fj11.5 · April 10, 2013, 01:33:31 AM

hi pat, just measured them, standard 84 pr is 255mm the one i got today from an 85 1100 is 258mm ,, short of buying another would it be possible to shorten this one, i can put the indent for the bearing in and heat treat it

racerrad8 · April 10, 2013, 10:06:19 AM

Okay,

The early cover will bolt right on and function properly. The 85/85 used no bushing in the cover. The 86-96 use a busing and/or a bearing. The XJR uses a bearing exclusively.

The clutch pushrod for your FJ should measure the 258mm. The XJR pushrod is 8mm longer at 266mm. So, if you old one was shorter then someone cut it for some reason. There was never a 255mm pushrod that I have ever seen.

It might be time to pull the clutch cover and the pressure plate to check the short pushrod and bearing to make sure they are the correct ones and nothing did not get jarred free from something on the other side.

I would give a thorough inspection before you start cutting on things.

Randy - RPM

fj11.5 · April 10, 2013, 04:57:52 PM

hi randy, thank you for the info mate, your a gold mine, , ill double check before messing with anything, glad youve confirmed the cover wont fit, was beginning to think the engine may have gotten twisted from the force of the chain against the sprocked and mount,, I'll try the push rod and cover again off the ambulance, as i pulled my slave apart as the piston was wedged slightly from the chain smashing the pushrod ,, if all checks out or not ill tear into the clutch side

Pat Conlon · April 10, 2013, 05:12:02 PM

Quote from: fj11.5 on April 10, 2013, 04:57:52 PM
.....glad youve confirmed the cover wont fit....

That's not the way I read Randy's post....

fj11.5 · April 11, 2013, 03:48:06 AM

thanks pat,now that ive read it again whilst actually awake thats not how it went, , had a play with effie today, managed to wiggle the broken starter mount in place and fix it, installed new pushrod seal, and with some jiggling and wiggling got the late model sp cover on, and the now functioning slave to bolt up with no added gaps, , used the slightly longer pushrod with the issues now seemingly sorted, all functioning normal,, just need a chain, and oil so i can find any leaks she may still have, , still may rob the ambulance engine over winter if it gets cold enough

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