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Started by keand3, October 08, 2012, 12:34:34 PM

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keand3

I think i know why he is quoting him self. He had allready awnsered the question in an earlier post  :greeting:
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keand3

Have my new 89 forks installed the bike, and eagrly want a new wheel. My old stock 86 stock wheel looks a bit dissrpointed though:-) 

I looked at the schematics on the 86 fork and 89 fork,  it looks like i can fit the 86 wheel on
he 89 fork. Not sure about the blue dots calipers, but i know someone here will enlighten me :good2:

After looking around a while, it turns out that an FZR1000 87/88 wheel was a bit more difficult to find then i thought.
I have found a good supplier with a huge storage of used and new parts for older biks. Mainly japanees.  Since this beeing in Norway the price tag can be s bit to much. Ebay would probably give me a better price but the import fee will bee added.

They would give me a call when they got a wheel in. The offered the wheel with tyre and brakedisk, the quedtion is wich brand. There are tousend suppliers of disks. Anyone have any god experienc with a brand?
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Arnie

You can put the '86 wheel in the '89 forks.
HOWEVER The '86 brake disks are 278mm OD, the '89 disks 298mm OD, and IIRC the mounting centers are different.  Also, while the blue-dot calipers will fit the '89 forks, they won't fully sweep the '86 brake disk.

You might be able to find another wheel that has a 15mm axle and mounts brake disks of the correct size, but its not likely that the speedo drive will fit too.  Or, you might be able to find a wheel that fits, but needs the bearing sizes changed. You're going to be trying a bunch of wheels until you find the right one.  Maybe your "good supplier" has a cross reference listing to tell you what wheels might interchange, but I've not seen anything like that.

Arnie

WhiteBeard

If you run out of options, perhaps you could find a rim in Sweden or Denmark?
I found my FZR wheel on Blocket, prices weren't too steep at all; if it doesn't have a tyre on it, the shipping shouldn't be all that bad either?



Edit: There's an FJ club in Denmark, seems to be a lot of parts for sale on their forum. You could get lucky (if you decide to go for the 1200 wheel, that is).

keand3

Quote from: Arnie on October 28, 2012, 08:38:05 AM
You can put the '86 wheel in the '89 forks.
HOWEVER The '86 brake disks are 278mm OD, the '89 disks 298mm OD, and IIRC the mounting centers are different.  Also, while the blue-dot calipers will fit the '89 forks, they won't fully sweep the '86 brake disk.

You might be able to find another wheel that has a 15mm axle and mounts brake disks of the correct size, but its not likely that the speedo drive will fit too.  Or, you might be able to find a wheel that fits, but needs the bearing sizes changed. You're going to be trying a bunch of wheels until you find the right one.  Maybe your "good supplier" has a cross reference listing to tell you what wheels might interchange, but I've not seen anything like that.

Arnie

Thanks Arnie!
I was  bit unsure about the brake disks. It seems like the 86 wheel will stay of then :-) Wouldn't have anyting other then a proper wheel mounted  :yes:
It would be best to to fit a FZR wheel were my blue dot calipers will fit.

Unfortunately my "good supplier" is in a great lack of knowledge on the FJ's, as many other with him. The all have a good knowledge on parts, and spareparts number etc, but that's about it. When it comes to fixing things, changing or any kind of modding, they simply do not have know. How could that be? FJ being the best bike of all times and everything  :yahoo:


QuoteInsert Quote
If you run out of options, perhaps you could find a rim in Sweden or Denmark?
I found my FZR wheel on Blocket, prices weren't too steep at all; if it doesn't have a tyre on it, the shipping shouldn't be all that bad either?



Edit: There's an FJ club in Denmark, seems to be a lot of parts for sale on their forum. You could get lucky (if you decide to go for the 1200 wheel, that is).

Yes, indeed:-)
Have scouted their webpage some time now, but there hasn't been anything of intrest yet, but thanks for the tip :good2:

It seems that EBay might be the way to go if I would save med some money, if supplier dosen't turn up with a nicer price:-)
Luckely Sweden and Danmark are not far away, and since I also am a licesend pilot, i could fly there my self. Cuts shipping and i get a trip :good2:

Any preference on brake disk, anyone?

Cheers
Ken
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keand3

All suppliers locally only seems to get the 320mm disk for the fzr wheel.  :scratch_one-s_head:
That did not supprise me :-)

Trying to tell them about interchangeable parts, but they seem to ignore it. Perhaps they don't like the old classics:-)
If i am to get anything from them, i would have to give them a specific make and model to order, but I'm guessing that will buff up the price tag:)

I found this on a UK site, but i can't tell which size it is. Anyone care to guide me?
http://www.sportsbikeshop.co.uk/motorcycle_parts/content_prod/76860


Cheers

Ken
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Arnie

Keand3,

This may help you.  It is not an exhaustive list, there are some other bikes that also use this same disk.

EBC Front Disks & bikes used:  MD2001LS  MD2001RS  298mm dia
TZR 250 (3MAI) 89
FZR 400 RR (4DX) 92
FZ 400 96
FZR 400 (3TJI/2/6/7)
FZR 400 (3ENZ) 89
MD2001C XJR 400 95-
FZR 600 89-93
FZR 600 R 94-95
FZS 600 Fazer 98-03
FZ 750 89-91
TDM 850 91-01
TRX 850 96-99
FJ 1200 (3CV/3XW Type) 88-95
APRILIA
RST Futura 1000 01-04
DUCATI
900 Supersport 89-90
907 IE 90-91

Arnie

keand3

Thanks Arnie.

I will have a look at it when i get home from work.
Have read people have bought thoose EBC disks used,  but i would rather order them new.  :good2:

Since im at work,  i not able to check,  but do the MD2001LS  MD2001RS  298mm have same mounting on fzr wheel as on a stock FJ 89 wheel?

Cheers
Ken
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FJmonkey

The glass is not half full, it was engineered with a 2X safety factor.

'86 Ambulance - Bent frame, cracked case, due for an overhaul
'89 Stormy Blue - Suits my Dark Side

keand3

Thanks FJmonkey.

I am a newbie so I'll ask another question :-)
Will those rotors fit the FJ wheel as well? Are the mounting similar to a 17'' FJ wheel?

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FJmonkey

Quote from: keand3 on October 29, 2012, 10:33:57 AM
Thanks FJmonkey.

I am a newbie so I'll ask another question :-)
Will those rotors fit the FJ wheel as well? Are the mounting similar to a 17'' FJ wheel?


I believe they will fit 90' to 93' wheels.
The glass is not half full, it was engineered with a 2X safety factor.

'86 Ambulance - Bent frame, cracked case, due for an overhaul
'89 Stormy Blue - Suits my Dark Side

keand3

Ahh..
So it would be easier for me to get an 90 Fj wheel instead of 89? Thinking about brake disk.

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Pat Conlon

The '89 17" FJ rim is the same as the 90-93 non abs rim.
If you can't find a 87-88 FZR 3.5" wide rim you are fine with the '89 3" wide rim.
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3) Replace your old stock rubber brake lines.
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keand3

Quote from: Pat Conlon on October 29, 2012, 01:19:35 PM
The '89 17" FJ rim is the same as the 90-93 non abs rim.
If you can't find a 87-88 FZR 3.5" wide rim you are fine with the '89 3" wide rim.


So too sum up a rather long thread:
I know that all the parts needed to fit the 87/88 FZR1000 wheel (axel spacer etc.) to FJ forks are the same, and will work fine.
The mounting of the brake disk, is the same for the FZR and FJ 89!? Correct me if I'm wrong.. :-) (see question below)

There still some things about the brake disk i do not understand, probably since i am fairly new to modding  :good2:
The EBC disk with the part number: MD2001LS  MD2001RS  298mm will fit both the stock FJ1200 Wheel (88' and up) and 88' FZR1000?
When i search by the partnumber on EBC, 88' FZR1000 is not mention, but the FZR400 is, but  form what i understand the rim is the same?
Take look:
http://www.ebcbrakesdirect.com/search/default.asp?part=MD2001LS&x=20&y=11&v1=car&t1=

Is Galfer the way to go? I figured out that it originally is a Spanish company, so I went to their homepage. But they don't have any on-line stores, so their products have to bee order and bought through an Norwegian dealer..
The price tag is probably gonna be high I'm guessing :-)
http://www.galfer.es/asp/catalogo_aplicaciones.asp?ids=22810811215258329167&p_marca=136&p_model=10579&p_cataleg=M

Pat, FJmonkey, Arnie, WhiteBeard and all you others, your help has been most valuable! The amount of info and help I have been given on this forum was (and still is) far beyone my expectations!  :good:
It would have taken me ages figured this out all this by my self!

I still haven't gotten to the brakepads on my blue dot calipers. But that will have to wait for now :yes:

Cheers.

Ken
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Harvy

Ken.......this may interest you:

http://myworld.ebay.co.uk/sandybikespares?_trksid=p2047675.l2559

I bought Kagizume rotors from these guys a few years ago and found them to be excellent rotors.


Harvy
FJZ1 1200 - It'll do me just fine.
Timing has much to do with the success of a rain dance.