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How much additional oil capacity with spin on filter?

Started by Colo814, June 09, 2012, 01:37:02 PM

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Colo814

How much additional oil capacity does the Wix 51347(long) spin-on oil filter add?  I am getting ready to do an oil change using the filter and was curious.  Thanks

ELIMINATOR

Put as much in as you usually do, then add to suit the sight glass?

On a pessimistic note, I read on here recently that if the bike is dropped the long filter gets trashed and you're stuck! I'm trying to get hold of a suitable filter so that I can fit my spin on adaptor, getting one here in the UK is not quite so easy. I'm still unsure of the correct one to use. randy did tell me, but not easily or cheap over here.

Someone on the UK FJ site said that a filter for a Yamaha FJR1300 would do the job?

After reading about oil filters, and realizing that some of them have an anti drain feature, I'm less knowledgeable than when I started :crazy:
BMW 1150GS
Moto Guzzi California 3

fj11.5

expensive oil filters in the UK, wonder why that is ?? trying to discourage ppl from changing oil  :scratch_one-s_head:  anyway the short filters are about level with the altenator/ generator , , good info on the long ones hitting in a fall, think even a drop from the stand would take one out  :bad:
unless you ride bikes, I mean really ride bikes, then you just won't get it

84 Fj1100  effie , with mods
( 88 ) Fj 1200  fairly standard , + blue spots
84 Fj1100 absolutely stock standard, now more stock , fitted with Fj12 twin system , no rusted headers for this felicity jayne

E Double

Best practice would be to toss on the Renntec (or equivalent) engine bars and remove the "Low speed tip-over=walk home" problem all together.  Because even if you didn't have the spin on filter on the left side, if the bike falls to the right the rear brake lever (pedal?) could punch through your case and you're stuck anyway.  Oddly enough I saw a bike tip over yesterday and do just this; Spill its guts right in the parking lot.

Back to capacity, I've been using the Amsoil EA0-20 (now named something different) and it adds between a third to a half of a quart to the overall volume.
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ELIMINATOR

I meant that the ones that the guys in the states are using for their spin on filters. Obviously common over there, but not over here.
BMW 1150GS
Moto Guzzi California 3

fj11.5

Ahhh ok, , do you have ryco filters in the UK, ,  we dont have wix brand down here either , head down to your local auto parts store / service station and ask to check a few filters, its a common size filter
unless you ride bikes, I mean really ride bikes, then you just won't get it

84 Fj1100  effie , with mods
( 88 ) Fj 1200  fairly standard , + blue spots
84 Fj1100 absolutely stock standard, now more stock , fitted with Fj12 twin system , no rusted headers for this felicity jayne

candieandy

the 1347 is a 1 qt capacity oil filter and i think the oem filter was something like .5-.7qts. So plan on an additional 1/2 qt capacity added to the system.
HAUI

DailyDriver

Quote from: E Double on June 10, 2012, 10:03:36 AMBecause even if you didn't have the spin on filter on the left side, if the bike falls to the right the rear brake lever (pedal?) could punch through your case and you're stuck anyway. 

Yeap! I had this very thing happen to me. Except I was doing 50 mph at the time. The brake pedal punched a hole in the clutch cover. Aside from the obvious road rash and broken mirror, turn signal, if not for the hole I might have been able to ride it to civilization if I'd been out in the sticks. Fortunately I was less than five minutes from home.

Sorry, off topic. Back to your regularly scheduled program.
Only a motorcyclist knows why a dog sticks its head out the window of a moving car.

racerrad8

Quote from: ELIMINATOR on June 10, 2012, 04:43:25 AM
Someone on the UK FJ site said that a filter for a Yamaha FJR1300 would do the job?

Champion filter #PH7010, according to the oil filter cross reference I have.

Once you confirm that is the correct filter, please let me know and I will add that to the installation instructions.

Randy - RPM
Randy - RPM

baldy3853

Well if that's the case u can run a Scott's reusable
filter which means its wash clean re install no filter to
Get rid of so no land fill
Baldy

racerrad8

Quote from: baldy3853 on June 17, 2012, 12:27:43 AM
Well if that's the case u can run a Scott's reusable
Baldy

That is what a bunch of the UK guys have done.

Randy - RPM
Randy - RPM

simi_ed

Quote from: baldy3853 on June 17, 2012, 12:27:43 AM
Well if that's the case u can run a Scott's filter
That POS is a quick way to ruin a motor.  Don't do it!!!  35 micron filtering is allowing fine grit to circulate in your oil, lapping bearings, bores and rings.  You really would  be good to remove the air filter at the same time to allow uniform wear throughout.
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Ed
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Mike Ramos

 I thought it was Baldy's engine that made it through the Gunnision Rally and back to L.A.?
Any filter is better than dirty oil; clean/change both regularly to ensure proper lubrication and long engine life.
I installed an upgraded oil cooler as well (along with an oil temp gauge) to keep the oil temperature under control.
Dirty oil and high oil temperature, along with incorrect fuel/air ratios (which are often misunderstood & underrated), are an air cooled engine's worst enemy.
Keep in good humor & ride carefully,

Mike Ramos.

FJmonkey

Quote from: Mike Ramos on June 17, 2012, 02:09:00 PM
I thought it was Baldy's engine that made it through the Gunnision Rally and back to L.A.?
Keep in good humor & ride carefully,
Mike Ramos.
Harsh dude....

The glass is not half full, it was engineered with a 2X safety factor.

'86 Ambulance - Bent frame, cracked case, due for an overhaul
'89 Stormy Blue - Suits my Dark Side

baldy3853

Quote from: simi_ed on June 17, 2012, 10:34:12 AM
Quote from: baldy3853 on June 17, 2012, 12:27:43 AM
Well if that's the case u can run a Scott's filter
That POS is a quick way to ruin a motor.  Don't do it!!!  35 micron filtering is allowing fine grit to circulate in your oil, lapping bearings, bores and rings.  You really would  be good to remove the air filter at the same time to allow uniform wear throughout.

Ed again you have used some misinformation I have used a Scott's on my FJR at home and have done over 90tho k's and my mate has done closer to 130tho both motors are running a hell of a lot better then yours is at the moment, well the Scott will filter down smaller then a grain of sand some where in the range of 3 to 5 microns besides which not all oil is filtered thru the filter as there is a bypass value in there, which allows the oil to bypass the filter
So until u actually investigate it properly don't use miss information or the poor peoples out there will be miss informed due to your ignorance.
Again these filters are the ducks guts there are others out there that make something similar and do the job just as well, in my mind these are great because of the ability to clean and re use there fore doing no damage to the environment and if I were a member of any countries government I'd insist that everyone should have one!  :sarcastic:
Baldy