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FJ1200W · March 25, 2020, 06:07:42 AM

Does anyone know if there a "kit" with all the lower end gaskets/seals/orings/etc or do they need to be ordered individually?

aviationfred · March 25, 2020, 10:53:51 AM

Quote from: FJ1200W on March 25, 2020, 06:07:42 AM
Does anyone know if there a "kit" with all the lower end gaskets/seals/orings/etc or do they need to be ordered individually?

Maybe this will have everything that you need.

http://rpmracingca.com/proddetail.asp?prod=CompleteStarterClutchKit

Fred

racerrad8 · March 25, 2020, 06:50:57 PM

Steve, 20+ years ago there was a couple of aftermarket complete gasket kits. Unfortunately the quality was substandard and they had a ton of issues. I got one with a basket case I bought many moons ago and the lack of quality was obvious.

I'm working from my phone, so I can't see the photos very well. But usually, the trans needs to be removed so the drive cogs can be inspected.

I'll have a look this weekend when I get to the shop.

Randy - RPM

FJ1200W · March 25, 2020, 07:44:52 PM

Quote from: racerrad8 on March 25, 2020, 06:50:57 PM
Steve, 20+ years ago there was a couple of aftermarket complete gasket kits. Unfortunately the quality was substandard and they had a ton of issues. I got one with a basket case I bought many moons ago and the lack of quality was obvious.

I'm working from my phone, so I can't see the photos very well. But usually, the trans needs to be removed so the drive cogs can be inspected.

I'll have a look this weekend when I get to the shop.

Randy - RPM

Robert is all over it, thank you!

I'll pull the trans apart and we'll see what we see.

Thanks again, pic's to come

FJ1200W · March 26, 2020, 11:03:19 AM

Transmission pictures - https://drive.google.com/open?id=1BURQkSwUI3irRkJLcAjwUTkY56O4WeYo

FJ1200W · April 08, 2020, 12:20:04 PM

Oh the joys of working on something someone else worked on before.

When I split the cases, I found the center oil passage was plugged. Or restricted, I was not sure which.

After much thought, I tried to remove it with a pick, but it was in tight.

So, in my infinite wisdom, I used a tap - threaded it in, put some vice grips on it, a plastic hammer for leverage, and just like magic -

I broke it off in the plug. Or restrictor. Whatever it is. Was.

Luckily, time and patience won out, and it seems like the cases will be OK.

When the original builder removed the starter and related parts, he plugged the passage, for obvious reasons.

I have a transmission on the way, out of a 1993, so it should be undercut from the factory and - well, let's wait for it to arrive.

Shift forks, I'll order those from RPM, and then I need to decide on the shift detent roller - anyone install it and truly tell a difference? Stock spring or stiffer spring? Yeah or nay?

Many thanks for all the help

FJ1200W · April 08, 2020, 01:44:01 PM

The passage plug.
I see sealant, it was tight.
I may remove that broken easy out just because it's the right thing to do.

Pat Conlon · April 08, 2020, 02:19:59 PM

Why was that plug installed?

Yes on the RPM roller shift kit, use the stock spring.

FJ1200W · April 08, 2020, 03:26:41 PM

Quote from: Pat Conlon on April 08, 2020, 02:19:59 PM
Why was that plug installed?

Yes on the RPM roller shift kit, use the stock spring.

The internal starter drive mechanisms were removed for Bonneville by the original builder.

He used that to block the oil passage to it.

That's my guess

I wanted to use the engine on the street and appreciate a starter.

Pat Conlon · April 08, 2020, 04:14:06 PM

Ok, thanks Steve, yea, starters are a good thing.
Be sure to get the low profile oil jet for your starter chain:
http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?topic=19016.0

Speaking of starters, I just remembered, the Yamaha FJ1100 was the first motorcycle I have ever owned that did not have a kick starter.

I was concerned, but I figured I could always bump start it in a pinch....

Cheers

andyoutandabout · April 08, 2020, 11:36:09 PM

Phew and timely question and a timely answer. I couldn't think of any good reason to restrict oil flows about the engine. It's the kind of condition nightmares are made of.

JMR · April 09, 2020, 11:32:21 AM

Quote from: andyoutandabout on April 08, 2020, 11:36:09 PM
Phew and timely question and a timely answer. I couldn't think of any good reason to restrict oil flows about the engine. It's the kind of condition nightmares are made of.

People have routinely restricted oil flow in Hayabusa race engines (LSR and drag) to keep pressure higher where you want it to be.....main and rod bearings. Oil flow to the oil cooler is one of the primary areas restricted.

FJ1200W · April 09, 2020, 12:21:00 PM

Quote from: Pat Conlon on April 08, 2020, 04:14:06 PM
Ok, thanks Steve, yea, starters are a good thing.
Be sure to get the low profile oil jet for your starter chain:
http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?topic=19016.0

Speaking of starters, I just remembered, the Yamaha FJ1100 was the first motorcycle I have ever owned that did not have a kick starter.

I was concerned, but I figured I could always bump start it in a pinch....

Cheers

I'm considering that as well, but am on a budget......

Time to fire up eBay and turn some stuff into money!

FJ1200W · April 16, 2020, 04:35:23 PM

The final hard parts have been ordered.

The transmission arrived, it is as represented. Looks fantastic in fact.

So excited.

Cabin Fever: Is real

FJ1200W · April 20, 2020, 05:58:49 PM

Close to the final care package arrived today. (Not the transmission)

About time to lock myself in the garage.

I'm torn on whether to put the stiffer shift dent spring in or not - as this is not going to be a long distance rider, I'm leaning towards using it.

If I go with an air shifter and that might be a benefit.

Thoughts anyone?

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