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Started by jdvorchak, July 01, 2017, 02:31:45 PM

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jdvorchak

I found this mostly complete 84 FJ1100 on Craigslist last week for $600. So it followed me home (in the trailer) so I had to do something with it. First order of business was to check the oil and it had some in it. Then I pulled the tank and moved the air cleaner back a little and hit it with some starting fluid. I heard it run on all 4 so I knew I had a runner.



Both front master cylinders were pretty corroded. A few minutes in the sand blasting cabinet and some "Roll Bar" paint and I think they turned out good:





Don't fix it until it's broke!

jdvorchak

I pulled the carbs and un-ganged them for a carb dip soak for a few hours each. They weren't that bad! Only the idle jets and starting circuits were plugged. New O-rings and put them back on the bike for the first test with gasoline. After I filled the carbs, with my IV aux tank, the bike started easily and ran on choke. When I was bench syncing the carbs I may have guessed wrong and have idle screws closed too much so it won't idle with choke off.



Safety wired the fuel petcock, which appears to be working and not leaking!



Comments welcome..

I never liked the way they look while I'm working on them:

Don't fix it until it's broke!

jdvorchak

I don't know if you can see it but the clutch cover is cracked and leaking where the brake pedal hit it. A little white squiggly line visible just above the pedal pad. Obviously from a mishap one of the PO had. When I had the pedal off, to remove the rear MC from cleaning/rebuild, I straightened the pedal. It was right up next to the clutch cover.

I have a new gasket on order and one of my sons is a professional welder. I'll see if he can weld the crack.

Don't fix it until it's broke!

jdvorchak

What the clutch assembly looks like


Inside of the clutch cover. The big thing in the middle is called a "breather". I've never seen anything like it. The crack/hole is in the lower right:



A closer look at the damage



What the damage looks like from the outside:



I'm sending it to work with my middle son. He is a body man but has a custom motorcycle shop across the street. He said he'd take it over there and get their take on it.
Wish me luck because I can't seem to find that cover anywhere.
Don't fix it until it's broke!

Pat Conlon

1) Free Owners Manual download: https://tinyurl.com/fmsz7hk9
2) Don't store your FJ with E10 fuel https://tinyurl.com/3cjrfct5
3) Replace your old stock rubber brake lines.
4) Important items for the '84-87 FJ's:
Safety wire: https://tinyurl.com/99zp8ufh
Fuel line: https://tinyurl.com/bdff9bf3

Sparky84

1984 FJ1100
1979 Kawasaki Z1300
1972 Honda CB750/4 K2

FJmonkey

The cover will weld up just fine. The trick is getting the contamination out of the crack. I learned this from Randy. Dino oil will burn off to carbon and the weld puddle will reject it. Synthetic will not and just weep out making it difficult to fuse the material. A good welder will fix it for you.
The glass is not half full, it was engineered with a 2X safety factor.

'86 Ambulance - Bent frame, cracked case, due for an overhaul
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red

Quote from: jdvorchak on July 02, 2017, 01:38:37 PMInside of the clutch cover. The big thing in the middle is called a "breather". I've never seen anything like it. The crack/hole is in the lower right
I'm sending it to work with my middle son. He is a body man but has a custom motorcycle shop across the street. He said he'd take it over there and get their take on it.
Wish me luck because I can't seem to find that cover anywhere.
jdvorchak,

If you want to get a welded repair on the crack, your best bet in to have a patch fully welded over the crack on the inside, to seal in the oil.  The patch is welded onto clean, smooth metal then.  On the outside, fill in the crack with welding material, then power-sand smoothly, for appearances.  That is what an ace welder did for me, with excellent results.
Cheers,
Red

P.S. Life is too short, and health is too valuable, to ride on cheap parade-duty tires.

ribbert

"Tell a wise man something he doesn't know and he'll thank you, tell a fool something he doesn't know and he'll abuse you"

Troyskie

Quote from: jdvorchak on July 02, 2017, 01:38:37 PM
What the clutch assembly looks like

Is that part of the wire retainer dangling out below the clutch basket?


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After all is said and done, more is said than done :)

jdvorchak

Quote from: Troyskie on July 03, 2017, 02:42:07 AM
Quote from: jdvorchak on July 02, 2017, 01:38:37 PM
What the clutch assembly looks like

Is that part of the wire retainer dangling out below the clutch basket?

No. Actually that is part of the gasket that was dangling. The camera angle makes it look thin like a wire.
Don't fix it until it's broke!

jdvorchak

Quote from: red on July 02, 2017, 09:53:28 PM


If you want to get a welded repair on the crack, your best bet in to have a patch fully welded over the crack on the inside, to seal in the oil.  The patch is welded onto clean, smooth metal then.  On the outside, fill in the crack with welding material, then power-sand smoothly, for appearances.  That is what an ace welder did for me, with excellent results.

I'm not a welder but I understand what you're saying. Welding a patch over the crack would be a challenge. The metal is actually pushed in from the outside so it sits very proud of the surface. If I tried to beat that back down level I'm sure it would just break off and result in a great big hole.

One of my sons is a pro welder and one is a body man. The body man came by and said he would take it to work. There is a custom racing motorcycle shop across the street that owes him a favor. If it can't be repaired I'll buy a new one now that some members have pointed out a couple of options.
Don't fix it until it's broke!

jdvorchak

Waiting for a battery and to get the clutch cover welded I decided to do a little aluminum polishing. I should have done some more "before" pics.







Don't fix it until it's broke!

Pat Conlon

With polished aluminum, it seems like you're looking into the soul of the metal.

Nice work!  :good:
1) Free Owners Manual download: https://tinyurl.com/fmsz7hk9
2) Don't store your FJ with E10 fuel https://tinyurl.com/3cjrfct5
3) Replace your old stock rubber brake lines.
4) Important items for the '84-87 FJ's:
Safety wire: https://tinyurl.com/99zp8ufh
Fuel line: https://tinyurl.com/bdff9bf3

Sparky84

Quote from: jdvorchak on July 06, 2017, 12:31:15 AM
Waiting for a battery and to get the clutch cover welded I decided to do a little aluminum polishing. I should have done some more "before" pics.

They look so Good, how did you get them so shiny?

Cheers Alan

1984 FJ1100
1979 Kawasaki Z1300
1972 Honda CB750/4 K2