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Started by ribbert, September 15, 2016, 07:24:44 AM

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ribbert


For anyone looking for a USB power source with more versatile mounting options (other than the traditional barrel type) I bought one of these today.
It has a WP connector, WP inline fuse, WP cap, eyes, mounting tabs and a low profile.



Noel
"Tell a wise man something he doesn't know and he'll thank you, tell a fool something he doesn't know and he'll abuse you"

FJmonkey

What is the AMP output rated at?
The glass is not half full, it was engineered with a 2X safety factor.

'86 Ambulance - Bent frame, cracked case, due for an overhaul
'89 Stormy Blue - Suits my Dark Side

FJ1100mjk

Quote from: FJmonkey on September 15, 2016, 07:44:29 AM
What is the AMP output rated at?

Exactly! I bought a 'good' one to charge my smartphone before I took my long trip out and back to the Central Rally in Colorado this year. It didn't even put out enough juice to keep the phone charged. What a waste. I contacted the manufacturer about it while on the road. Was told: yea, it won't keep up with with some of the newer smartphones (mine was three years old too). I told them, that that would've been useful knowledge to have known before I bought and installed it. They never replied back.
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ribbert

Quote from: FJ1100mjk on September 15, 2016, 07:56:24 AM
Quote from: FJmonkey on September 15, 2016, 07:44:29 AM
What is the AMP output rated at?

Exactly! I bought a 'good' one to charge my smartphone before I took my long trip out and back to the Central Rally in Colorado this year. It didn't even put out enough juice to keep the phone charged. What a waste. I contacted the manufacturer about it while on the road. Was told: yea, it won't keep up with with some of the newer smartphones (mine was three years old too). I told them, that that would've been useful knowledge to have known before I bought and installed it. They never replied back.

2.1 amps.

All the two outlet ones have a 2.1A and a 1.0A outlet, are you sure you had it in the right one? If so, there was something wrong, that should be plenty to keep it charged. Even if you are using it for navigation it should still charge, although not quite as fast.

Noel
"Tell a wise man something he doesn't know and he'll thank you, tell a fool something he doesn't know and he'll abuse you"

FJ1100mjk

Quote from: ribbert on September 15, 2016, 08:35:33 AM

2.1 amps.

All the two outlet ones have a 2.1A and a 1.0A outlet, are you sure you had it in the right one? If so, there was something wrong, that should be plenty to keep it charged. Even if you are using it for navigation it should still charge, although not quite as fast.

Noel

The one that I bought is a single outlet type. I assume that it's putting out 1A. I can only relate my experiences of lack of charge level while on my trip. I now have a new smartphone, but haven't tried charging it in the bike yet, but can assume that I'll have the same experience with charging it too.

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Charlie-brm

My first HTC Desire phone would die out in a few hours if playing music even while connected to a 1A charger, which was the standard 5 years ago and served most other types of phones just fine.

I don't believe the ratings printed on those little chargers until I've had time to use them. I'll be hooking up a voltmeter/ammeter gauge when I decide on a location and this might be a good circuit to place it in.
The ones like the OP posted are sturdy construction. I had one on my FJ for a while, screwed to the edge of the instrument fairing underneath the tach and it didn't stick out like a sore thumb either.

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I have one of these that I use daily for my phone. Water resistant too.
Rick

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Quote from: Charlie-brm on September 15, 2016, 01:14:01 PM
My first HTC Desire phone would die out in a few hours if playing music even while connected to a 1A charger, which was the standard 5 years ago and served most other types of phones just fine.

I don't believe the ratings printed on those little chargers until I've had time to use them. I'll be hooking up a voltmeter/ammeter gauge when I decide on a location and this might be a good circuit to place it in.
The ones like the OP posted are sturdy construction. I had one on my FJ for a while, screwed to the edge of the instrument fairing underneath the tach and it didn't stick out like a sore thumb either.



I had a HTC one that when used on the bike for GPS would over heat and stop charging. The out put of the USB socket was not the issue. My Samsung note now does GPS music with ease even on a 1 amp outlet.
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Sparky84

Quote from: FJ1100mjk on September 15, 2016, 10:58:48 AM
Quote from: ribbert on September 15, 2016, 08:35:33 AM

2.1 amps.

All the two outlet ones have a 2.1A and a 1.0A outlet, are you sure you had it in the right one? If so, there was something wrong, that should be plenty to keep it charged. Even if you are using it for navigation it should still charge, although not quite as fast.

Noel

The one that I bought is a single outlet type. I assume that it's putting out 1A. I can only relate my experiences of lack of charge level while on my trip. I now have a new smartphone, but haven't tried charging it in the bike yet, but can assume that I'll have the same experience with charging it too.



Hi Noel,

Has that got 2 outlets?

As far as amps out go with 2 outlet ones usually they are rated at 2.1 for only 1 appliance plugged in but when 2 appliances both outlets are then only puuting 1amp each, as I said Usually.
Car double ones are the same 2.1 for 1 outlet but if you use both outlets it's only 1 amp out for each.
That's what you need to check, otherwise if you get a double 1 amp that Usually means 0.5 amp out for when both are being used.

Cheers Alan
1984 FJ1100
1979 Kawasaki Z1300
1972 Honda CB750/4 K2

ribbert

Quote from: Sparky84 on September 15, 2016, 06:24:16 PM

Hi Noel,

Has that got 2 outlets?

As far as amps out go with 2 outlet ones usually they are rated at 2.1 for only 1 appliance plugged in but when 2 appliances both outlets are then only puuting 1amp each, as I said Usually.
Car double ones are the same 2.1 for 1 outlet but if you use both outlets it's only 1 amp out for each.
That's what you need to check, otherwise if you get a double 1 amp that Usually means 0.5 amp out for when both are being used.

Cheers Alan

Thanks Alan, that's handy to know about the output. It is a single plug.
I bought it to permanently power my GPS/HUD speedo so it probably wouldn't matter in this case but good to know for the twin outlet one I have for charging accessories.

Noel
"Tell a wise man something he doesn't know and he'll thank you, tell a fool something he doesn't know and he'll abuse you"

FJmonkey

I installed this under the seat near the battery.
The glass is not half full, it was engineered with a 2X safety factor.

'86 Ambulance - Bent frame, cracked case, due for an overhaul
'89 Stormy Blue - Suits my Dark Side

Sparky84

Quote from: FJmonkey on September 16, 2016, 01:03:08 AM
I installed this under the seat near the battery.

That is 1 high powered unit, are the outlets weatherproof? Do you have a link?

This unit will charge equipment quickly But the next slow point is the LEAD,
Not all leads are the same! The lead that came with your device should be ok
When you buy a non branded lead they could be made with smaller gauge cabling which won't supply your device with enough amps thus resulting in slow charge rate.
A 28/24 gauge lead is what you need.
Lead length will affect charging also.


Cheers Alan
1984 FJ1100
1979 Kawasaki Z1300
1972 Honda CB750/4 K2

FJmonkey

Quote from: Sparky84 on September 16, 2016, 04:29:27 AM
Quote from: FJmonkey on September 16, 2016, 01:03:08 AM
I installed this under the seat near the battery.

That is 1 high powered unit, are the outlets weatherproof? Do you have a link?

This unit will charge equipment quickly But the next slow point is the LEAD,
Not all leads are the same! The lead that came with your device should be ok
When you buy a non branded lead they could be made with smaller gauge cabling which won't supply your device with enough amps thus resulting in slow charge rate.
A 28/24 gauge lead is what you need.
Lead length will affect charging also.

Cheers Alan
The lead wires to the battery are from my battery tender (18 gauge i think). Then I used this to add the accessory outlet. http://www.batterytender.com/Accessories/Female-Cigarette-Adaptor.html The USB adapter plugs into the socket. So the unit is not weather proof. But it can be covered and sealed to protect it if you plan to ford rivers deeper than your battery box. I installed a similar unit like Nole's but my Samsung S5 would slowly discharge playing music (Blue Tooth) and using GPS for my navigation. Now I have a spare socket for my GPS speedo.
The glass is not half full, it was engineered with a 2X safety factor.

'86 Ambulance - Bent frame, cracked case, due for an overhaul
'89 Stormy Blue - Suits my Dark Side

ct7088

http://12vtechnology.ecrater.com/p/22312949/highest-power-dual-true-42a

This is a two outlet 4.2 amp total but it is cigarette lighter size and cost $20.00
Chris

Jeff0308

I put one of these inside the lid my topbox at the top and wired it to the battery with an in line fuse. I put joiners in the wiring on the outside of the topbox so if I take it off it unplugs.  Ones a cigarette type, the other 2 are USB. It has an inbuilt light so I know when it's powered on. Both  the GPS and topbox power supplies have an on/off toggle switches  under the topbox rack hidden away so I power up from them. . Everything turns on and off by them. That way I know I won't get any surprises ( flat battery) The only problem is the USB only powers the GPS and won't allow it to be used. So USB powers the iPhone and iPod. I have a Bluetooth headset which works perfectly with the phone in the topbox. I have controls on the grips for the phone. The GPS I wired a second cigarette lighter adapter under the seat and using the cigarette lighter style cable it came with and ran it up to the dash.  It just reaches with about an inch to spare.