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Started by twangin4u, April 15, 2016, 02:26:35 PM

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twangin4u

How well do these cleaners work on carbs? I'm thinking about getting a cheapy for the hell of it

FJmonkey

Quote from: twangin4u on April 15, 2016, 02:26:35 PM
How well do these cleaners work on carbs? I'm thinking about getting a cheapy for the hell of it

They work really well, the best way to clean your carbs.
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aviationfred

They work great on carbs and other things that would be tedious and time consuming to clean. The Larger cleaner from Harbor Freight works great. An added feature is that there is a heat button.

Here is a shot of my oil cooler lines. One is clean the other has 10,000 miles or so of road grime embedded in the stainless steel braids. I did not touch it with a brush or a rag.

Fred
I'm not the fastest FJ rider, I am 'half-fast', the fastest slow guy....

Current
2008 VFR800 RC46 Vtec
1996 VFR750 RC36/2
1990 FJ1300 (1297cc) Casper
1990 VFR750 RC36/1 Minnie
1989 FJ1200 Lazarus, the Streetfighter Project
1985 VF500F RC31 Interceptor

twangin4u

Quote from: aviationfred on April 15, 2016, 03:33:39 PM
They work great on carbs and other things that would be tedious and time consuming to clean. The Larger cleaner from Harbor Freight works great. An added feature is that there is a heat button.

Here is a shot of my oil cooler lines. One is clean the other has 10,000 miles or so of road grime embedded in the stainless steel braids. I did not touch it with a brush or a rag.

Fred

That's where I was think of getting one at. I saw one for $35 I think. Is there a larger one too? I didn't see that one

aviationfred

I'm not the fastest FJ rider, I am 'half-fast', the fastest slow guy....

Current
2008 VFR800 RC46 Vtec
1996 VFR750 RC36/2
1990 FJ1300 (1297cc) Casper
1990 VFR750 RC36/1 Minnie
1989 FJ1200 Lazarus, the Streetfighter Project
1985 VF500F RC31 Interceptor

Pat Conlon

Fred, can you get the full rack in there or do you have to separate the carb bodies?
(yes, know about disassembly of carb internals)
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3) Replace your old stock rubber brake lines.
4) Important items for the '84-87 FJ's:
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aviationfred

Pat,

I never did the carbs. I sent my carb bank to RPM for a rebuild, they were in such bad shape, I ended up buying a whole new set of 4.

I would imagine that you could split the bank and put in 2 at a time.

Fred
I'm not the fastest FJ rider, I am 'half-fast', the fastest slow guy....

Current
2008 VFR800 RC46 Vtec
1996 VFR750 RC36/2
1990 FJ1300 (1297cc) Casper
1990 VFR750 RC36/1 Minnie
1989 FJ1200 Lazarus, the Streetfighter Project
1985 VF500F RC31 Interceptor

a.graham52

I have the 2.5l cleaner. Works good but I always separate the carbs into singles. You will have to run the cleaner for a while and then flip over the carbs to get the unsubmerged side. Also, any carb iv ever put in there has come out good with degreaser. However give then a few moths and the carbs start to oxidize and look horrible on the outside. I haven't yet looked into that issue.

Steve_in_Florida

Quote from: a.graham52 on April 17, 2016, 08:04:07 PM

...However give then a few moths and the carbs start to oxidize and look horrible on the outside. I haven't yet looked into that issue.


Moth balls, maybe?

Seriously, I've been working with corrosion on bike stuff for a while. Any of these hard-core cleaning methods leaves the base metal ripe for chemical reaction with the atmosphere.

On steel, I've been using a product called Os-Pho (phosphoric acid), which reduces the rust to a more stable, less active compound, and prevents freshly sandblasted steel from rusting quite so readily.

I wonder if freshly ultrasonically-cleaned parts could use a dousing in a light oil, or a coat of clear paint to protect against further oxidation?

My thoughts, at the moment.

Steve
`90 FJ-1200
`92 FJ-1200

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ribbert

Quote from: a.graham52 on April 17, 2016, 08:04:07 PM

........However give them a few moths and the carbs start to oxidize and look horrible on the outside.  


....and the inside!

I had this discussion with the owner of the largest chain of carby and FI shops in the country on this subject and it is the very reason they won't do bike carbys. They are working on it though.

He is a metallurgist at explained it at a speed and in terms that left my head spinning. It's to do with the metal composition and is somewhat unique to bike carbys.

They had been sent a whole swag of potions from the US to formally test and the nearest to date was "Simple Green" but they were not entirely happy with that either.

As it stands at the moment, you can't get bike carbys ultrasonically cleaned here by a reputable specialist, they won't touch them.

Ask Randy what he uses. I assume his don't react over time.

Steve, I don't think oiling the surface is the answer, the petrol would wash it off and as I recall it was something to do with a component of that type of alloy rising to the top during the manufacturing process and once stripped, the metal underneath oxidises (or whatever it does)

Like I said, my head was left spinning with terminology but it made sense at the time and I'm sure there's plenty on the net about it.

Noel

"Tell a wise man something he doesn't know and he'll thank you, tell a fool something he doesn't know and he'll abuse you"

jscgdunn

I have one and use it on all carbs.  Only use water and dish soap (ie Sunlight) or Fantastic.  Works great, no issues.
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racerrad8

Quote from: ribbert on April 18, 2016, 09:02:48 AM
Ask Randy what he uses. I assume his don't react over time.

Noel

I use Crest Ultrasonic Cleaners; Chem-Crest 235

Really expensive, but it is designed for the job and requires a heated cleaner.

Randy - RPM
Randy - RPM

Pat Conlon

1) Free Owners Manual download: https://tinyurl.com/fmsz7hk9
2) Don't store your FJ with E10 fuel https://tinyurl.com/3cjrfct5
3) Replace your old stock rubber brake lines.
4) Important items for the '84-87 FJ's:
Safety wire: https://tinyurl.com/99zp8ufh
Fuel line: https://tinyurl.com/bdff9bf3

racerrad8

Randy - RPM

FJools

How long in the cleaner and at what temperature for carbs?

Thats something that I found little info on.............
Still thinking of something..................