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PR4 width

Started by markmartin, August 19, 2015, 12:07:23 PM

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markmartin

Can anyone tell me what the width of a mounted Michelin PR4 rear tire is?  I'm looking at the 160/60-17 and 180/55-17 series.  I'd like to try a set of these tires.

My Continental RA/2 170/60-17 measures 7" (178mm) wide and  clears the chain by about 1/4".  Michelin doesn't seem to make a 170 series PR4. 



Thanks.

Mark M

great white

I am also interested in the width as I was planning a set of pr4's for my 17" rear swap.

Perhaps the width of the 180 tire and what width rim it is mounted on would be better? It changes a little bit if you're on a 5.0 or a 5.5 rim....

markmartin

Good point.  I''ve got a 5.5" wide rim.

aviationfred

I have not used one as of yet.

I believe that I saw a few that have been installed on members bikes at the Central Rally. Dan McCoy (giantkiller) comes to mind as having PR4's installed. No complaints of being too wide that I heard.

Fred
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FJmonkey

Since this subject has popped up a few times, maybe we can get the actual measured width of many tire brands and models. This will help others considering changing tire brands and or model to know if they need to get a 170 or a 180 wide tire. We have the first contribution a 170 wide Continental Road Attack. I will contribute my tire width today.
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jscgdunn


https://www.denniskirk.com/michelin/rear-pilot-road-3-180-55zr-17-blackwall-tire.p543975.prd/543975.sku

Dimensions:
Inflated Width/Measuring Rim Width: 7.48 in./5.50 in.
Inflated Diameter: 25.35 in.
Acceptable Rim Width: 5.50-6.00 in.
Deepest Tread Depth: 8/32 in.
Balance DOT: No
Directional Arrow: Yes
Speed Rating: W(V270-Rated up to 168 MPH

Capacities and Construction:
Load Capacity/Inflation Pressure: 805 lbs./42 PSI
Load Range: B
Bias or Radial Ply: Radial
Tread Plies/Material: 2 Polyamide/1 Aramid
Sidewall Plies/Material: 2 Polyamide
DOT Approved for Road Use: Yes
Tube or Tubeless: Tubeless 
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92 FJ1200 2009 R1 Swinger, Forks, Wheels, 2013 CBR 1000 Shock
90 FJ 1200 (Son # 2), Stock
89 FJ 1200 Built from parts: (Brother bought it) mostly 92 parts inc. motor
84 FJ 1100 (Son #1), 89 forks wheels, blue spots

FJmonkey

The Dennis Kirk site looks good for getting size info but they don't have it on all tires. I was hoping to see what the Dunlop Q2/3 width was. The Q2 in 180 wide rubbed the chain, by the time I replaced it the chain had removed about 1/8" to 3/16" off the edge. The 170 rear cleared the chain.

The Continental Motion (code for good price but mediocre mileage) 180/55-17 on a 5.5" wheel measured 7", same as the Conti RA/2 in a 170. The 180 wide PR3 is almost 1/2" wider putting the edge almost 1/4" closer to the chain. I don't have that much room, so now I know I need the 170 wide when I am ready to try them out.
The glass is not half full, it was engineered with a 2X safety factor.

'86 Ambulance - Bent frame, cracked case, due for an overhaul
'89 Stormy Blue - Suits my Dark Side

jscgdunn

Quote from: FJmonkey on August 19, 2015, 03:58:12 PM
The Dennis Kirk site looks good for getting size info but they don't have it on all tires. I was hoping to see what the Dunlop Q2/3 width was. The Q2 in 180 wide rubbed the chain, by the time I replaced it the chain had removed about 1/8" to 3/16" off the edge. The 170 rear cleared the chain.

The Continental Motion (code for good price but mediocre mileage) 180/55-17 on a 5.5" wheel measured 7", same as the Conti RA/2 in a 170. The 180 wide PR3 is almost 1/2" wider putting the edge almost 1/4" closer to the chain. I don't have that much room, so now I know I need the 170 wide when I am ready to try them out.

Right: I looked for quite a while for the PR4 width but no luck.  I did see some forum postings indicating the that the PR4 is narrower than the PR3 but no actual measurement. I have a 180 PR3 on 2008 R6 5.5 inch wheel (and 2008 R1 swingarm) with no clearance issues.

Jeff
92 FJ1200 2008 ZX14 Forks, wheels, 2008 cbr 600 RR swingarm
92 FJ1200 2009 R1 Swinger, Forks, Wheels, 2013 CBR 1000 Shock
90 FJ 1200 (Son # 2), Stock
89 FJ 1200 Built from parts: (Brother bought it) mostly 92 parts inc. motor
84 FJ 1100 (Son #1), 89 forks wheels, blue spots

Urban_Legend

I can't tell you the exact width,  but I put 170/60 x17 pr4's on my 4 1/2 rim and it fits in standard swing arm with about 1/2 inch to spare on either side of the tyre.
Mark
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Pat Conlon

Sorry, I'm currently out of town so I can not measure my 180/55-17 PR-4 tire on my 5.5" rim.

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giantkiller

I'm smokin 5 racks of ribs right now at my moms.6 hrs have 3 mor hrs. But will try and measure 180 pr4 on5.5 when I get home tonight.
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FJmonkey

Quote from: giantkiller on August 19, 2015, 04:59:21 PM
I'm smokin 5 racks of ribs right now at my moms.6 hrs have 3 mor hrs. But will try and measure 180 pr4 on5.5 when I get home tonight.

First you break them, now you are smoking them... What won't you do?  :shok:
The glass is not half full, it was engineered with a 2X safety factor.

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'89 Stormy Blue - Suits my Dark Side

movenon

180-55-17  PR 3 on 5.5 rim at 40psi measures 183mm (182.60 mm) max width.  As best I can measure with a caliper.  Rear wheel is centered in the swing arm and I have 5mm (5.24mm) clearance between tire edge and my chain rivet head.  No sign of any tire wear or side wall "milling".

That's all I can conturibute on the subject.

George
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1990 FJ 1200

Firehawk068

My 180/55-17 Conti-Motion measures 6-15/16 inches mounted on a 5.5" wheel. At 40psi

The Michelin Pilot-Road 2 180/55-17 that I took off measures 7-1/8 inches unmounted.

I used a straightedge on either side, and measured between them
Alan H.
Denver, CO
'90 FJ1200

FJmonkey

Quote from: markmartin on August 19, 2015, 12:07:23 PM
Michelin doesn't seem to make a 170 series PR4. 

Mark M

They make a 170/60-17 in the GT tire.

BTO Sports
The glass is not half full, it was engineered with a 2X safety factor.

'86 Ambulance - Bent frame, cracked case, due for an overhaul
'89 Stormy Blue - Suits my Dark Side