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Lone complaint forces CHP to remove lane-splitting guidelines from website

Started by rktmanfj, October 13, 2014, 10:18:58 AM

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rktmanfj

Randy T
Indy

Blessed be the LORD my strength, which teacheth my hands to war, and my fingers to fight.
Psalms 144:1

'89 FJ1200
'90 FJ1200
'78 XT500
'88 XT350


the fan

Old topic but this is probably a good thing.

My understanding from discussions on other boards is that in California lane splitting is NOT legal. What this means is that there is no law giving you the right to lane split. You can split lanes because there is no law or rule against it.

If they start placing rules and regulations on lane splitting, or even recomendations, this opens up the door for further regulation or even putting a law in place making it illegal.



Or we can blame Obama.

racerrad8

Quote from: the fan on October 13, 2014, 10:34:00 AM
My understanding from discussions on other boards is that in California lane splitting is NOT legal.

That is incorrect, it is legal to lane split/filter in California.

Here is the language found in the current DMV motorcycle handbook, "Lane splitting in a safe and prudent manner is not illegal in the state of California"

I have one at home right now that I was reading last night as I have to take all of my drivers tests next month...auto, commercial and motorcycle

Randy - RPM
Randy - RPM

rktmanfj

Quote from: the fan on October 13, 2014, 10:34:00 AM
Old topic but this is probably a good thing.

Yes, lane splitting is an old topic, but the fact that some do-gooder has forced the CHP to stop it's defacto endorsement of the practice is not.

Quote from: the fan on October 13, 2014, 10:34:00 AM
Or we can blame Obama.


Not sure why you chose to pick that scab, but it's stuff like that that has had me reading this forum less, and posting even more infrequently.  :unknown:

Although, the 'impacted bowel' thread that has Noel so distressed has been mildly entertaining...



Randy T
Indy

Blessed be the LORD my strength, which teacheth my hands to war, and my fingers to fight.
Psalms 144:1

'89 FJ1200
'90 FJ1200
'78 XT500
'88 XT350


racerrad8

Something else that take affect via California DMV on January 1, 2015...

Bill AB60; http://apps.dmv.ca.gov/ab60/

Randy - RPM

Randy - RPM

racerrad8

Here is the complete language from the DMV handbook; Motorcycle Handbook Ride Within Your Abilities

Lane Splitting

The term lane splitting, sometimes known as lane sharing, filtering, or white-lining refers to the process of a motorcyclist riding between lanes of stopped or slower-moving traffic or moving between lanes to the front of traffic stopped at a traffic light.
Lane splitting should not be performed by inexperienced riders. When choosing to lane split, skilled motorcycle riders should consider the following:

    Traffic flow - Travel at a speed that is no more than 10 mph faster than other traffic; danger increases at higher speed differentials. Lane splitting is not advised when traffic flow is at 30 mph or faster; danger increases as overall speed increases.
    Traffic lanes - Lane splitting is encouraged to be done between the #1 and #2 lanes; typically, it is safer to lane split in these lanes than between other lanes.
    Environment - The total environment should be considered, including the width of the lanes, size of surrounding vehicles, the roadway, weather, and lighting conditions.
    Hazards - Riders should anticipate possible movements by other road users and be alert at all times.

NOTE:These general guidelines assume a high level of riding competency and experience and do not guarantee to keep you safe. Every rider has the ultimate responsibility for his or her own decision making and safety. Riders must be conscious of reducing crash risk at all times.


Randy - RPM
Randy - RPM

Country Joe

Quote from: racerrad8 on October 13, 2014, 11:24:24 AM
Something else that take affect via California DMV on January 1, 2015...

Bill AB60; http://apps.dmv.ca.gov/ab60/

Randy - RPM



That ought to make California highways much safer now....
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Pat Conlon

They're already out there, driving without licenses (and insurance)
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FJmonkey

Quote from: Pat Conlon on October 13, 2014, 12:49:53 PM
They're already out there, driving without licenses (and insurance)

And the sad part is they are safer drivers than many of the SOB's with a license... They know how to stay under the radar....
The glass is not half full, it was engineered with a 2X safety factor.

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ZOA NOM

Quote from: not a lib on October 13, 2014, 11:11:27 AM
Quote from: the fan on October 13, 2014, 10:34:00 AM
Old topic but this is probably a good thing.

Yes, lane splitting is an old topic, but the fact that some do-gooder has forced the CHP to stop it's defacto endorsement of the practice is not.

Quote from: the fan on October 13, 2014, 10:34:00 AM
Or we can blame Obama.


Not sure why you chose to pick that scab, but it's stuff like that that has had me reading this forum less, and posting even more infrequently.  :unknown:

Although, the 'impacted bowel' thread that has Noel so distressed has been mildly entertaining...






Wait... "not a lib" is whining about a political poke at the current excuse of an administration?  :dash1:
Rick

Current:
2010 Honda VFR1200 DCT (Full Auto!)
1993 FJ/GSXR 1200 (-ABS)
1987 Porsche 911 Carrera (Race)
1988 Porsche Carrera (Street)
Previous:
1993 FJ1200 (FIREBALL)
1993 FJ1200ABS (RIP my collar bone)
1986 FZ750
1984 FJ600
1982 Seca

rktmanfj

Quote from: ZOA NOM on October 13, 2014, 02:33:32 PM
Quote from: not a lib on October 13, 2014, 11:11:27 AM
Quote from: the fan on October 13, 2014, 10:34:00 AM
Old topic but this is probably a good thing.

Yes, lane splitting is an old topic, but the fact that some do-gooder has forced the CHP to stop it's defacto endorsement of the practice is not.

Quote from: the fan on October 13, 2014, 10:34:00 AM
Or we can blame Obama.


Not sure why you chose to pick that scab, but it's stuff like that that has had me reading this forum less, and posting even more infrequently.  :unknown:

Although, the 'impacted bowel' thread that has Noel so distressed has been mildly entertaining...






Wait... "not a lib" is whining about a political poke at the current excuse of an administration?  :dash1:


Wait a minute, some dude with 17 posts is accusing me of 'whining' about someone taking a completely innocent post in a political direction??  :biggrin:
I come here to talk about motorcycles (ok, maybe a gun or two once in a while, too).  :unknown:

If it's politics you want to talk about, PM me... let's talk.


Randy T
Indy

Blessed be the LORD my strength, which teacheth my hands to war, and my fingers to fight.
Psalms 144:1

'89 FJ1200
'90 FJ1200
'78 XT500
'88 XT350


ZOA NOM

Quote from: not a lib on October 13, 2014, 03:05:51 PM
Quote from: ZOA NOM on October 13, 2014, 02:33:32 PM
Quote from: not a lib on October 13, 2014, 11:11:27 AM
Quote from: the fan on October 13, 2014, 10:34:00 AM
Old topic but this is probably a good thing.

Yes, lane splitting is an old topic, but the fact that some do-gooder has forced the CHP to stop it's defacto endorsement of the practice is not.

Quote from: the fan on October 13, 2014, 10:34:00 AM
Or we can blame Obama.


Not sure why you chose to pick that scab, but it's stuff like that that has had me reading this forum less, and posting even more infrequently.  :unknown:

Although, the 'impacted bowel' thread that has Noel so distressed has been mildly entertaining...






Wait... "not a lib" is whining about a political poke at the current excuse of an administration?  :dash1:


Wait a minute, some dude with 17 posts is accusing me of 'whining' about someone taking a completely innocent post in a political direction??  :biggrin:
I come here to talk about motorcycles (ok, maybe a gun or two once in a while, too).  :unknown:

If it's politics you want to talk about, PM me... let's talk.





Post count aside, whining is whining. The Obama comment was completely innocuous, yet you lament it as a reason you don't frequent here more often? Get off your high horse. It was a joke. I found it especially ironic that every post of yours comes from "not a lib", yet you whine about somebody else tossin a jab?
Rick

Current:
2010 Honda VFR1200 DCT (Full Auto!)
1993 FJ/GSXR 1200 (-ABS)
1987 Porsche 911 Carrera (Race)
1988 Porsche Carrera (Street)
Previous:
1993 FJ1200 (FIREBALL)
1993 FJ1200ABS (RIP my collar bone)
1986 FZ750
1984 FJ600
1982 Seca

rktmanfj

Quote from: ZOA NOM on October 13, 2014, 04:48:11 PM
Post count aside, whining is whining. The Obama comment was completely innocuous, yet you lament it as a reason you don't frequent here more often? Get off your high horse. It was a joke. I found it especially ironic that every post of yours comes from "not a lib", yet you whine about somebody else tossin a jab?

Honestly dude, you haven't been here long enough to know any history of this group or me in particular.

I really couldn't care any less about what you think.   :boredom:


Randy T
Indy

Blessed be the LORD my strength, which teacheth my hands to war, and my fingers to fight.
Psalms 144:1

'89 FJ1200
'90 FJ1200
'78 XT500
'88 XT350


ZOA NOM

Quote from: not a lib on October 13, 2014, 09:07:34 PM
Quote from: ZOA NOM on October 13, 2014, 04:48:11 PM
Post count aside, whining is whining. The Obama comment was completely innocuous, yet you lament it as a reason you don't frequent here more often? Get off your high horse. It was a joke. I found it especially ironic that every post of yours comes from "not a lib", yet you whine about somebody else tossin a jab?

Honestly dude, you haven't been here long enough to know any history of this group or me in particular.

I really couldn't care any less about what you think.   :boredom:




What are you, a senior hazing a freshman? Lemme guess, with your 1400 posts, you're the Grand Pooh Bah of the FJ Owners World, right?

Don't get so uptight, the world is a tough enough place without a bad attitude.

BTW, I blame Obama
Rick

Current:
2010 Honda VFR1200 DCT (Full Auto!)
1993 FJ/GSXR 1200 (-ABS)
1987 Porsche 911 Carrera (Race)
1988 Porsche Carrera (Street)
Previous:
1993 FJ1200 (FIREBALL)
1993 FJ1200ABS (RIP my collar bone)
1986 FZ750
1984 FJ600
1982 Seca

FJmonkey

Quote from: ZOA NOM on October 14, 2014, 12:08:30 PM
What are you, a senior hazing a freshman? Lemme guess, with your 1400 posts, you're the Grand Pooh Bah of the FJ Owners World, right?

Don't get so uptight, the world is a tough enough place without a bad attitude.

BTW, I blame Obama

I think I own that title on this site (5200 posts), not that it's worth much. Just having too much time on my hands (STYX, I love that song).... And enjoyment of spending time with this group and it's members, including face to face rally and ride time... Coming from the Monkey, can we fling less poo? Ride and enjoy... I need to make some rallies on the East side of the USA...  :drinks:
The glass is not half full, it was engineered with a 2X safety factor.

'86 Ambulance - Bent frame, cracked case, due for an overhaul
'89 Stormy Blue - Suits my Dark Side