I hooked up a new handlebar switch up to my bike with new front turn signals, the front turn signals are dual filament OE replacements.
Before i hooked this up i had my original handlebar switch hooked up with the the stock turn signals, which are also dual filament!
When i had the new switch hookup up with the new signals, the front lights would come on, but they would not blink when i turned on the blinker.
So i decided to put the old switch back on with the old signals again and still no blinking when turned on, lights come on how there suppose to but when i turned the switch on but would not blink.
They worked fine before i switched them out with the new switch and signals.
SO my theory is the flasher relay, cause if the old or new switch wont get the blinkers to blink with the old turn signals when they use to work just fine, then im going with that relay. whatcha all think
I think you wired the signals wrong.
Quote from: the fan on September 06, 2011, 09:27:18 PM
I think you wired the signals(or the switch) wrong.
+1
KOokaloo!
Quote from: the fan on September 06, 2011, 09:27:18 PM
I think you wired the signals wrong.
but the thing is, i hooked the stock signals right back up to how they were before, when it worked fine before, and it still doesnt work... :dash1:
Quote from: racerman_27410 on September 06, 2011, 09:37:03 PM
Quote from: the fan on September 06, 2011, 09:27:18 PM
I think you wired the signals(or the switch) wrong.
+1
KOokaloo!
Add my +1 too.
The turn signal lights are all single filament lamps.
Look at the socket - there is only ONE contact in the center.
Arnie
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Add my +1 too.
The turn signal lights are all single filament lamps.
Look at the socket - there is only ONE contact in the center.
Arnie
No offense but i 100% disagree with that. mine has 2 contact points, and i have 3 wires coming from the wiring harness to my stock front turn signals. ill get a pic tonight of them.
I know 3 wires means dual filament, 2 wires is single.
And the bulbs them selves i can tell are dual filament. The wiring harness has 3 wires not 2
Also i couldnt have wired the new handlebar switch up wrong if the old one is back on exactly the same way it came off, no mods done to it, and its still not working
Just because your late model wiring harness has 3 wires for dual filament bulbs, DOES NOT mean that dual filament bulbs are supported by your early flasher relay.
Remember you have a 2 wire flasher relay.....Wire it correctly for a 2 wire flasher circuit and put in single filament bulbs and see what happens.
I'm outta here...
Not talking euro FJs or any of the 1100s all the U.S. FJ1200s be it 86/93 had two fillment bulbs up front. Running lights and turm signals combined. As for the wireing, black ground/ Blue/Red trace running lights/ Brown left turn signal and Dark Green for the right.
If you don't want to use the running lights snip and cap the Blue/ Red trace wires.
All the years ran a single filliment bulb in the rear.
Quote from: tqmx1 on September 07, 2011, 05:45:19 PM
Not talking euro FJs or any of the 1100s all the U.S. FJ1200s be it 86/93 had two fillment bulbs up front. Running lights and turm signals combined. As for the wireing, black ground/ Blue/Red trace running lights/ Brown left turn signal and Dark Green for the right.
If you don't want to use the running lights snip and cap the Blue/ Red trace wires.
All the years ran a single filliment bulb in the rear.
Thank you!
And on top of that the dual filament bulbs up front worked perfectly fine before, it alway worked every time i tried it until i swapped the handle bar switch,
I do want to use the dual filament thats why there still there.
Like i said before, i have a feeling its the flasher relay and im pretty positive it is.
THe wiring on the bike shows 3 wires for the front turn signals.
Pat: the early model flasher relay wouldnt work in a later model wiring harness, there all very different from each other, so the flasher i have with this harness is the correct one and the harness is made for dual filament bulbs, like i said before, im going with the flasher relay being bad
So, then... why in the 2-3 days you've been arguing about this did you not get one, install it, and prove them all wrong?? :scratch_one-s_head:
Quote from: rktmanfj on September 07, 2011, 06:08:39 PM
So, then... why in the 2-3 days you've been arguing about this did you not get one, install it, and prove them all wrong?? :scratch_one-s_head:
if you can find one for me then let me know, cause ive been looking, cant even find one on ebay
and also the original post was asking if anyone knew a way to test the flasher relay
Quote from: tqmx1 on September 07, 2011, 05:45:19 PM
Not talking euro FJs or any of the 1100s
why wouldn't it be the 1100's?
Since he didn't offer what year we are talking about in the original post.....I naturally thought he was talking about the best years.
Quote from: Travis398 on September 07, 2011, 06:10:47 PM
Quote from: tqmx1 on September 07, 2011, 05:45:19 PM
Not talking euro FJs or any of the 1100s
why wouldn't it be the 1100's?
Since he didn't offer what year we are talking about in the original post.....I naturally thought he was talking about the best years.
i know i mentioned it somewhere in the previous thread before everyone bashed it so i made a new one.
Its an 87 fj1200 on a 91 fj1200 frame but in the haynes manual i have, the 87 fj1200 wiring diagram has 2 wires for the front turn signals, but on the 89-90 fj1200 on the wiring diagram it shows 3 like mine, idk what thats all about.
Quote from: rktmanfj on September 07, 2011, 06:08:39 PM
So, then... why did you not get one :scratch_one-s_head:
Because it sounds like he is going to need more than one.
Quote from: irishluck on September 07, 2011, 06:15:35 PM
Quote from: Travis398 on September 07, 2011, 06:10:47 PM
Quote from: tqmx1 on September 07, 2011, 05:45:19 PM
Not talking euro FJs or any of the 1100s
why wouldn't it be the 1100's?
Since he didn't offer what year we are talking about in the original post.....I naturally thought he was talking about the best years.
i know i mentioned it somewhere in the previous thread before everyone bashed it so i made a new one.
Its an 87 fj1200 on a 91 fj1200 frame but in the haynes manual i have, the 87 fj1200 wiring diagram has 2 wires for the front turn signals, but on the 89-90 fj1200 on the wiring diagram it shows 3 like mine, idk what thats all about.
The 2 wire front blinkers are the euro 1200s. Clymers& Haynes manules are as fucked up as hoagens goat when it comes to the wireing diagrams :dash1:
And by the way what harness are you running, the 87 or the 91? They are different.
In your previous thread you stated that you put LED bulbs in the back housings..... If there are LEDs in the system ANYWHERE it WILL affect flasher operation! Put standard bulbs front and rear and report back..... otherwise you're just wasting EVERYONES time! :dash1:
ok i understand the euro version. yea the haynes manual does seem messed up. everything on the bike is 87 except the frame.
Quote from: RichBaker on September 07, 2011, 09:04:07 PM
In your previous thread you stated that you put LED bulbs in the back housings..... If there are LEDs in the system ANYWHERE it WILL affect flasher operation! Put standard bulbs front and rear and report back..... otherwise you're just wasting EVERYONES time! :dash1:
no it doesnt, cause i was running the LED blinkers in the back for weeks and it worked perfectly fine not a problem, idc what anyone says about that, it isnt true cause ive been running them perfectly fine for weeks
the only reason im having a problem now is cause i added new front ones and a new handlebar switch, everything worked fine until then, so then i put the old front ones back on and the old handlebar switch and it still doesnt work, i know its not the LED turn signals
Even before i put new LED ones in the back the rear ones were LED already when i bought the bike and they worked fine too, only reason i replaced is cause the stems were broke
I put leds on my bike 1985 1100 and they didnt flash had to add the old rear bulbs back into the system to make them work.
ill grab some standard turn signals from work tomorrow and put them on there and i know they work cause ive tried standard ones already
Quote from: irishluck on September 07, 2011, 10:49:16 PM
idc what anyone says
True dat.
I'm going for the reverse psychology angle:
OK Irish, you are right. It simply MUST be that flasher, these other guys are idiots. Seriously spend lots of money replacing it. I think I would buy a dozen different flashers from other bike models, until you find one that works as a replacement for you.
Best of luck to you.
Dan
If you are certain that it's the flasher, replace the flasher. Rocket surgery it ain't. It's a $8 part or so, and probably worth doing instead of rechecking the wiring (or arguing that it can't possibly be wrong). I'd suggest getting a solid-state fixed rate flasher rather than the load dependent type (they're commonly available, if you can't find one, look at a place that sells lighting to truckers).
That said, I don't think a relay of any size is going to fix the fundamental problem here--not necessarily the one about the lights.
Quote from: andyb on September 08, 2011, 08:08:34 AM
That said, I don't think a relay of any size is going to fix the fundamental problem here--not necessarily the one about the lights.
Maybe it's time to try a solenoid.
DavidR.
Quote from: SlowOldGuy on September 08, 2011, 08:53:11 AM
Quote from: andyb on September 08, 2011, 08:08:34 AM
That said, I don't think a relay of any size is going to fix the fundamental problem here--not necessarily the one about the lights.
Maybe it's time to try a solenoid.
DavidR.
:rofl2: (popcorn)
Quote from: andyb on September 08, 2011, 08:08:34 AM
If you are certain that it's the flasher, replace the flasher. Rocket surgery it ain't. It's a $8 part or so, and probably worth doing instead of rechecking the wiring (or arguing that it can't possibly be wrong). I'd suggest getting a solid-state fixed rate flasher rather than the load dependent type (they're commonly available, if you can't find one, look at a place that sells lighting to truckers).
That said, I don't think a relay of any size is going to fix the fundamental problem here--not necessarily the one about the lights.
if you cant tell me where to find one for $8 i prolly would buy it buy now, but any bike site i see them on there $100+
If i could find one i would of bought it, but i cant find any cheaper than $100
If you are sure it's the relay and not your carbs...
the cheapies at the part stores ($3-$8) are probably like the stock unit and going to work best with incandescent bulbs..
however goolgle "signal flasher relay led motorcycle" turns up several and I can't find one for > $20
Quote from: ddlewis on September 08, 2011, 09:23:44 AM
...however goolgle "signal flasher relay led motorcycle" turns up several and I can't find one for > $20
meaning there are several $20 and under..
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Quote from: ddlewis on September 08, 2011, 09:23:44 AM
...however goolgle "signal flasher relay led motorcycle" turns up several and I can't find one for > $20
meaning there are several $20 and under..
I was talking about the stock flasher for the motorcycle. to replace it cause I think its bad. that one is like $100+ for it.
and even if i got one for the LED turn signals id still have to get the stock one for my bike if its bad.
Quote from: irishluck on September 08, 2011, 09:40:57 AM
I was talking about the stock flasher for the motorcycle. to replace it cause I think its bad. that one is like $100+ for it.
and even if i got one for the LED turn signals id still have to get the stock one for my bike if its bad.
Wha? your stock one is either bad or more likely will not work with low amp LED's. (assuming it's not wired up wrong)
So I'm saying replace the old school stock unit with the newer solid state type for $20..
Quote from: ddlewis on September 08, 2011, 10:42:14 AM
Quote from: irishluck on September 08, 2011, 09:40:57 AM
I was talking about the stock flasher for the motorcycle. to replace it cause I think its bad. that one is like $100+ for it.
and even if i got one for the LED turn signals id still have to get the stock one for my bike if its bad.
Wha? your stock one is either bad or more likely will not work with low amp LED's. (assuming it's not wired up wrong)
So I'm saying replace the old school stock unit with the newer solid state type for $20..
ok then let me ask you a question here, how do I go abouts wiring up a newer one to the 10pin or how ever many pins it is old stock flasher. Cause ive looked at newer flasher relays and they only have like 3 wires on them
ok then let me ask you a question here, how do I go abouts wiring up a newer one to the 10pin or how ever many pins it is old stock flasher. Cause ive looked at newer flasher relays and they only have like 3 wires on them
I mean I can grab a rumble concept flasher relay from where i work for $5 brand new
(didnt mean to make a second post on this)
Quote from: irishluck on September 08, 2011, 11:29:15 AM
ok then let me ask you a question here, how do I go abouts wiring up a newer one to the 10pin or how ever many pins it is old stock flasher. Cause ive looked at newer flasher relays and they only have like 3 wires on them
10 pins, oh that sucks. It's not just a simple flasher. So that explains the $100, it serves other purposes.
There's a schematic with wire colors in the service manual and a .pdf version floating around here somewhere. Might try to figure it out before spending $100 on the OE that probably will not work with LED's anyway. If you can post it (diagram) up we'll take a look.
Yea the flasher has quite a few wires coming out of it. I'm not sure if its exactly 10 pins or not but its around there.
If it was one of the regular little small relays i would of had that done and replaced by now.
I have a wiring diagram at home in my Haynes manual but someone said there not very accurate. Cause my bike is an 87 fj1200 and has 3 front blinker wires but the manual only shows its suppose to have 2.
If I can find a diagram ill post it, if not ill just copy it out of my Haynes book and post it.
pic of my relay
(http://i1111.photobucket.com/albums/h462/irishluck09/flasher-relay-assy_big41R8335071-01_b222.jpg)
Just have to bypass the non-required functions and splice it in, really.
The other thing to try would be load resistors to make the unit see more resistance than it would with modern bulbs.
well does anyone else know what all these other wires even do or go to? or what else this flasher relay does?
I've got a couple of genuine spare ones, and printed on them it says "turn signal, and hazard warning".
Some bikes come equipped with a switch that when pressed makes all the signal lights flash together when pressed, that's the hazard warning system.
These relays are 9 pin, not 10.
It's not hard to work out where each wire goes if you follow the diagram in the Haynes manual.
Quote from: FJ111200 on September 08, 2011, 01:46:43 PM
I've got a couple of genuine spare ones, and printed on them it says "turn signal, and hazard warning".
Some bikes come equipped with a switch that when pressed makes all the signal lights flash together when pressed, that's the hazard warning system.
These relays are 9 pin, not 10.
It's not hard to work out where each wire goes if you follow the diagram in the Haynes manual.
see idk if my relay can do a hazard warning. my stock handlebar switch and my new one just has a left and right and when you push the button in and just cancels out the signal.
well i can do that with the diagram if it was right. I have the 87 fj1200 and when i look that diagram up in the book it shows 2 wire to my front turn signals but my bike has 3, so just looking at that it looks like its not going to be completely accurate
Don't worry about the Blue/Red trace it has nothing to do with the turn signals. It is for the running lights only.
By the way how good is your battry? A low one will cause all sorts of problems.
Quote from: tqmx1 on September 08, 2011, 03:12:21 PM
Don't worry about the Blue/Red trace it has nothing to do with the turn signals. It is for the running lights only.
By the way how good is your battry? A low one will cause all sorts of problems.
yea i know its for running lights, i kinda wanted to use them as running lights
And I just bought a brand new battery Saturday, so I know that's good
Quote from: irishluck on September 08, 2011, 02:52:49 PM
well i can do that with the diagram if it was right. I have the 87 fj1200 and when i look that diagram up in the book it shows 2 wire to my front turn signals but my bike has 3, so just looking at that it looks like its not going to be completely accurate
Simple: Find the wire that lights up the filament you want to flash and wire a different flasher relay into that line. You might need to be creative with the LED current draw, if so then use a relay intended for LEDs.
Others have successfully wired in a "normal" (car-type) flasher relay into their blinker system, so it can be done. I recall helping someone with the wiring, but that's been several years ago and I'm currently not able to access any wiring diagrams.
DavidR.
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Simple: Find the wire that lights up the filament you want to flash and wire a different flasher relay into that line. You might need to be creative with the LED current draw, if so then use a relay intended for LEDs.
Others have successfully wired in a "normal" (car-type) flasher relay into their blinker system, so it can be done. I recall helping someone with the wiring, but that's been several years ago and I'm currently not able to access any wiring diagrams.
DavidR.
So essentially I could take a LED flasher relay if I decide to put them back on and just splice it into the wire that controls the flashing on it. I wouldn't need to completely disconnect the wire just splice the relay in it right?
have you checked that the connections at the junction blockon the with the main harness are ok I know it seems basic but youve had the block apart ,could simply be a broken wire or bad connection or a poor earth which would give you the problems you have
yea ive checked the wires and all the plugs to and cleaned them, doesnt look like a problem there i dont think
Ok now im getting pissed off at this bike.
I put all brand new single filament turn singles on my bike, standard bulbs, standard OEM replacements. still nothing, no blinking or anything with the new or old handlebar switch. All 4 fuses are perfectly fine, not blown.
The only thing i can even think of would be the flasher relay!
Im about to say f*** it and take all the blinkers off and call it good.
i cant even get my horn to work now, brand new 12v horn and i cant even get it to work!
Quote from: irishluck on September 08, 2011, 09:38:28 PM
i cant even get my horn to work now, brand new 12v horn and i cant even get it to work!
Well, From your last statement go over your Grounds (Earths for the euro set). The horn gets power from the ignition switch then to the Horn and from there to the switch and last stop ground. Where ever the bad grounding problem lies is the root of all your problems
Dude.
Srsly.
When you see it, you're going to shit.
Theres got to be a ground now cause now i have multiple problems.
The blinkers wont blink, the horn don't work, and now my bike wont crank over!
All this just by getting a new battery, new left handlebar switch, and some new blinkers? that's just crazy!
and the weird thing is I decided to see if i could test the flasher relay and see if it was even getting any power while turned on, all the wires are getting like 10.2v.
Also when i hit the starter button on the bike, it doesnt crank over but what does happen is the red oil light lights up on my gauge cluster,
Is all of this connected?
OK irish, just run this past me again as i can't find it in your posts.
What year FJ have you got? What's the engine number and frame number?
Is it an 1100 or 1200?
What's the code on the igniter unit and the flasher relay?
I'm just trying to build a mental picture of your bike in the hope that we can diagnose your problem and get to the bottom of it.
I don't know whether i can help or not but i'm going to try.
Sounds like a bad/dead battery. Check fluid levels, then battery voltage w/ign off. I'd expect at least 12.4 V. Fully charged s/b 12.6-13.2V. If it's below 12.4. put it on a charger overnight.
dead battery..... its not unheard of for even a new battery to drop a cell.
if new did you have to put the acid in it and then charge it ?
Kookaloo!
Battery is brand new yes, and fully charged, does have the acid in it and all and does show fully charged on a voltmeter. Cant give exact number right now cause I'm at work but id be kinda upset if it had a dead cell=(
FJ111200: going to try and answer the questions best I can here.
It is an 87 fj1200 but its on a 91 fj1200 frame, can give you numbers when I get home.
Code on igniter unit I'm not sure of.
The Flasher relay is the 41R-71
I just think this is so odd. Before i changed the handlebar switch and the front turn signals, it would at least crank, but then i got a new battery and now nothing. just the red oil light shows up if I hit the start button and the button is flipped to the RUN position.
Now this is a weird thing and idk if this is just my bike or all fj's but if one turn signal wasn't working on my bike, none of them would. Like they wouldn't blink at all. I wonder maybe since they are not working right now then maybe that's why it wont crank? but it still doesn't explain the horn issue.
You've not trapped, shorted or broken, one or both of the earth wires coming from the left hand switch have you?
They are the two black wires and connect to various components including the oil level light, the starter switch, the indicators, the horn,
not at all. or at least not that i know of. Cause i can still control the headlight with the new switch just fine.
The black wire coming from the switch looks to be fine
I really want to get this stuff fixed this weekend. Need to fire it up and see if my worked paid off on that damn carb.
making progress?
Quote from: Travis398 on September 10, 2011, 10:24:03 AM
making progress?
well I mean I wont be able to work on it till after work today. But I got the carb rebuilt to like perfection. but haven't got a chance to turn the bike on yet since I did that.
I mean besides these issues I'm having at this exact moment, all I have to do is get my new headlight frame and the right side footrest (which are both on the way) and new tires, and I'm done with the project!
Quote from: irishluck on September 10, 2011, 10:27:26 AM
But I got the carb rebuilt to like perfection.
(http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-merv/crystalball.gif) (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)
I see a long, exasperating carb thread in our future...
my carbs are fine now, I even bought parts from you and those are the only damaged parts i found in the carbs
Quote from: irishluck on September 10, 2011, 12:57:17 PM
my carbs are fine now, I even bought parts from you and those are the only damaged parts i found in the carbs
You haven't bought jack shit from me... pay attention. :empathy3:
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my carbs are fine now, I even bought parts from you and those are the only damaged parts i found in the carbs
You haven't bought jack shit from me... pay attention. :empathy3:
uh yea i have. you do run RPM dont you? i bought 4 screen for my needle valve seats.
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my carbs are fine now, I even bought parts from you and those are the only damaged parts i found in the carbs
You haven't bought jack shit from me... pay attention. :empathy3:
uh yea i have. you do run RPM dont you? i bought 4 screen for my needle valve seats.
Um, no... I don't. :nea:
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my carbs are fine now, I even bought parts from you and those are the only damaged parts i found in the carbs
You haven't bought jack shit from me... pay attention. :empathy3:
uh yea i have. you do run RPM dont you? i bought 4 screen for my needle valve seats.
Um, no... I don't. :nea:
i could have sworn you ran RPM
i thought someone said on here before you did.
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my carbs are fine now, I even bought parts from you and those are the only damaged parts i found in the carbs
You haven't bought jack shit from me... pay attention. :empathy3:
uh yea i have. you do run RPM dont you? i bought 4 screen for my needle valve seats.
Um, no... I don't. :nea:
i could have sworn you ran RPM
i thought someone said on here before you did.
You will argue about damned near anything won't you? :pardon:
Let me spell it out for you... I'll even type slowly. :empathy2:
Randy 'RPM' Raduechel owns RPM, in
CALIFORNIARandy T (me) is a member of this forum, from
INDIANAI have no connection with RPM, with the exception of being a very happy customer.
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my carbs are fine now, I even bought parts from you and those are the only damaged parts i found in the carbs
You haven't bought jack shit from me... pay attention. :empathy3:
uh yea i have. you do run RPM dont you? i bought 4 screen for my needle valve seats.
Um, no... I don't. :nea:
i could have sworn you ran RPM
i thought someone said on here before you did.
You will argue about damned near anything won't you? :pardon:
Let me spell it out for you... I'll even type slowly. :empathy2:
Randy 'RPM' Raduechel owns RPM, in CALIFORNIA
Randy T (me) is a member of this forum, from INDIANA
I have no connection with RPM, with the exception of being a very happy customer.
Nothing to say. I just felt the need to add another quote.
DavidR.
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Nothing to say. I just felt the need to add another quote.
DavidR.
:biggrin:
for lack of kicking a dead horse emoticon
:dash1: :bomb: :bomb: :bomb: :bomb: :bomb: :wacko3: :crazy: :hang1:
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for lack of kicking a dead horse emoticon
:dash1: :bomb: :bomb: :bomb: :bomb: :bomb: :wacko3: :crazy: :hang1:
Finally stopped raining here... :biggrin:
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my carbs are fine now, I even bought parts from you and those are the only damaged parts i found in the carbs
You haven't bought jack shit from me... pay attention. :empathy3:
uh yea i have. you do run RPM dont you? i bought 4 screen for my needle valve seats.
Um, no... I don't. :nea:
i could have sworn you ran RPM
i thought someone said on here before you did.
You will argue about damned near anything won't you? :pardon:
Let me spell it out for you... I'll even type slowly. :empathy2:
Randy 'RPM' Raduechel owns RPM, in CALIFORNIA
Randy T (me) is a member of this forum, from INDIANA
I have no connection with RPM, with the exception of being a very happy customer.
well since you insist on that I argue about everything then I guess I will argue about everything just for you! :rofl: enjoy the rest of my thread :bye:
Guys, Did we make a mistake in not booting Nick out when we had the chance. :dash2:
Marsh open the voting back up I am ready to change my vote. :lol: :lol:
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my carbs are fine now, I even bought parts from you and those are the only damaged parts i found in the carbs
You haven't bought jack shit from me... pay attention. :empathy3:
uh yea i have. you do run RPM dont you? i bought 4 screen for my needle valve seats.
Um, no... I don't. :nea:
i could have sworn you ran RPM
i thought someone said on here before you did.
You will argue about damned near anything won't you? :pardon:
Let me spell it out for you... I'll even type slowly. :empathy2:
Randy 'RPM' Raduechel owns RPM, in CALIFORNIA
Randy T (me) is a member of this forum, from INDIANA
I have no connection with RPM, with the exception of being a very happy customer.
randy "rpm" raduechel is
coolrandy "XLLL" is a
loserthat should really clear up the matter. ( :
Irish,
there should be 2 black wires on that left hand switch you've got, if you've bought a 91 year switch.
You still haven't come back to me with those part numbers i asked you for.
Some people think you are taking the piss, and i'm beginning to think the same myself.
I'd like to help you get your bike going, but you don't seem to be helping yourself.
It don't take Einstein to work all this stuff out.
The luck of the Irish?
Seems like you really need it at this rate kid!!!!
:scratch_one-s_head: :scratch_one-s_head: :pardon: :hi:
Fook it :bomb:
well i didnt get a fj switch, its a universal switch i got from work
http://www.kandstech.com/pimages/12-0030.html (http://www.kandstech.com/pimages/12-0030.html)
and you wanted the frame number and the engine number and the ignitor number right? i just got home from work so ill get those
ignitor unit= TID14-51
IUX-10
Engine number= J-002398
are you wanting the VIN number or something on the frame cause i dont see any other number.
okay so im just trying to check some wires and stuff and idk if this is another factor or not that plays in this but when i hit the start button the red oil light comes on(said that before) but also the headlights dims/shuts off.
Does that mean anything?
also im looking at the wire diagram. The horn wires, the brown one goes to the relay unit,to the front brake switch, the main switch, the fuel gauge and the tachometer and the fuel warning and oil level light. The pink one goes to the horn switch, which inturn goes into a black wire into the turn signal switch and then eventually routes into the starter switch.
so my guess is maybe the black wire is broken somewhere?
Any input here?
Quote from: rktmanfj on September 10, 2011, 10:59:27 AM
(http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-merv/crystalball.gif) (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)
I see a long, exasperating carb thread in our future...
Not if
no one replies ...
And I say again :dash2:
Well, From your last statement go over your Grounds (Earths for the euro set). The horn gets power from the ignition switch then to the Horn and from there to the switch and last stop ground. Where ever the bad grounding problem lies is the root of all your problems.
As for the no crank, Engine in gear and kick stand down.
Quote from: tqmx1 on September 10, 2011, 06:06:56 PM
And I say again :dash2:
<snip>
Quote from: simi_ed on September 10, 2011, 05:52:48 PM
Quote from: rktmanfj on September 10, 2011, 10:59:27 AM
(http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-merv/crystalball.gif) (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)
I see a long, exasperating carb electrical thread in our future...
Not if no one replies ...
I thought this guy had this half-breed FJ listed on craigslist?
Must of had no takers.
Nick, you have already identified your problem in your own posts.
Can you not see what it is?
It is staring at you, plain as day, right there in front of you.
Give a man a fish,,,
Quote from: 1tinindian on September 10, 2011, 07:59:03 PM
I thought this guy had this half-breed FJ listed on craigslist?
Must of had no takers.
mmm no i never listed my bike on there
Quote from: Klavdy on September 10, 2011, 09:03:16 PM
Nick, you have already identified your problem in your own posts.
Can you not see what it is?
It is staring at you, plain as day, right there in front of you.
Give a man a fish,,,
Im checking all of that, im taking the feed back and i might have found something. First off i used an ohm meter on the grounds and it seems to be okay,
I went and tested the power on one of the blinkers from the flasher and its not getting any power when the others are?
and like i said before, idk if this happens to all fj's or just mine but when one blinker dont work they all dont on mine
i figured out the engine thing, i bypassed the kickstand sensor and it cranks, so one problem down!
Quote from: irishluck on September 10, 2011, 09:33:42 PM
Quote from: 1tinindian on September 10, 2011, 07:59:03 PM
I thought this guy had this half-breed FJ listed on craigslist?
Must of had no takers.
mmm no i never listed my bike on there
In this thread, the picture posted in the craigslist ad matched the picture you posted on the FJ you are working on.
http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?topic=4431.msg39090#msg39090 (http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?topic=4431.msg39090#msg39090)
Quote from: 1tinindian on September 10, 2011, 10:32:29 PM
Quote from: irishluck on September 10, 2011, 09:33:42 PM
Quote from: 1tinindian on September 10, 2011, 07:59:03 PM
I thought this guy had this half-breed FJ listed on craigslist?
Must of had no takers.
mmm no i never listed my bike on there
In this thread, the picture posted in the craigslist ad matched the picture you posted on the FJ you are working on.
http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?topic=4431.msg39090#msg39090 (http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?topic=4431.msg39090#msg39090)
ok cool! if it was, it was, if it wasnt it wasnt, who cares? whats ya piont? i still have it
"ok cool! if it was, it was, if it wasnt it wasnt, who cares? whats ya piont? i still have it"
Integrity and Creditability?
ok so since everyone wants to bash my last two post, we'll just make a 3rd one :good2:
Put new left handlebar switch on my 87 fj1200
and brand new single filament bulbed turn signals on the bike.
No blinkers will blink and my horn doesnt work at all.
They worked before i changed this stuff and then i put the old stock back on and then nothing worked still
So far i've checked the ground between the connections and it seems that they are all good
I also checked the power of all wires into the flasher relay and there getting power.
My headlight comes on just fine though
The new handle bar switch is a universal K&S switch
Quote from: irishluck on September 10, 2011, 05:14:36 PM
well i didnt get a fj switch, its a universal switch i got from work
http://www.kandstech.com/pimages/12-0030.html (http://www.kandstech.com/pimages/12-0030.html)
Small point about the indicators.
On this universal switch that you got, the information says "LED indicators NO".
Does that mean leds won't work with this switch? I don't know.
Do all the wires from the switch correspond with the wires in the loom/harness?
Quote from: irishluck on September 10, 2011, 10:59:09 PM
Quote from: 1tinindian on September 10, 2011, 10:32:29 PM
Quote from: irishluck on September 10, 2011, 09:33:42 PM
Quote from: 1tinindian on September 10, 2011, 07:59:03 PM
I thought this guy had this half-breed FJ listed on craigslist?
Must of had no takers.
mmm no i never listed my bike on there
In this thread, the picture posted in the craigslist ad matched the picture you posted on the FJ you are working on.
http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?topic=4431.msg39090#msg39090 (http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?topic=4431.msg39090#msg39090)
ok cool! if it was, it was, if it wasnt it wasnt, who cares? whats ya piont? i still have it
hmmm I think this is the point
Quote from: irishluck on May 12, 2011, 06:11:43 PM
Quote from: Pat Conlon on May 12, 2011, 04:36:12 PM
Ok, so help us help you....Deal? Here are the conditions:
1) No more lying, it just pisses us off. We eat/sleep/breath FJ's so you're not gonna get away with it.
2) No more shit pictures.
3) Ask your questions clearly, use punctuation and spell check.
4) Give us details so we don't have to guess or assume or ask you further questions in order to figure out what the fuck you are asking.
5) It's ok to ask (polite) questions about the advice we give you...that's cool with me at least...but DON"T FUCKIN ARGUE.
okay deal, ill follow your guys rules.
How soon we forget
talking about the new handlebar switch correct? if so then yes.
"Small point about the indicators.
On this universal switch that you got, the information says "LED indicators NO".
Does that mean leds won't work with this switch? I don't know."
Just saw this and i did read that. But also at the moment there all just regular bulb turn signals and what not. no LED's
who cares? me popping my bike on there for like a week just to see if i could get anything out of it is no ones business on here, its mine and thats it! i didnt even member sticking it on there.
Quote from: irishluck on September 11, 2011, 10:42:36 AM
who cares?
That's a good question, who gives a shit about your bike? Keep going and the answer will be no one.
Funny you don't remember posting your bike, but you remember keeping the add on there "for like a week just to see if I could get anything out of it"
The point isn't about you trying to sell your bike. It is about Pat's #1 rule. The one you agreed to follow.
Quote from: Travis398 on September 11, 2011, 11:07:56 AM
Quote from: irishluck on September 11, 2011, 10:42:36 AM
who cares?
That's a good question, who gives a shit about your bike? Keep going and the answer will be no one.
Funny you don't remember posting your bike, but you remember keeping the add on there "for like a week just to see if I could get anything out of it"
The point isn't about you trying to sell your bike. It is about Pat's #1 rule. The one you agreed to follow.
and your piont? let it go
god forbid i tell anyone i put my bike up for sale
Quote from: irishluck on September 10, 2011, 11:30:19 PM
ok so since everyone wants to bash my last two post, we'll just make a 3rd one :good2:
No you won't.
Sorry Nick, moderator's prerogative, the forum does not need multiple topics started from the same member on the same electrical issues..
Your topics are hereby merged.
Quote from: Pat Conlon on September 11, 2011, 01:17:41 PM
Quote from: irishluck on September 10, 2011, 11:30:19 PM
ok so since everyone wants to bash my last two post, we'll just make a 3rd one :good2:
No you won't.
Sorry Nick, moderator's prerogative, the forum does not need multiple topics started from the same member on the same electrical issues..
Your topics are hereby merged.
There ya go Pat, Just keep all his posts in one spot makes it easier for me to avoid reading them by accident.
Quote from: Mark Olson on September 11, 2011, 01:26:57 PM
There ya go Pat, Just keep all his posts in one spot makes it easier for me to avoid reading them by accident.
ditto..... i suggest the OP get a multimeter and learn how to use it.
it's not that hard
god forbid i tell anyone i put my bike up for sale
[/quote]
At least have the courtesy of listing it here, first. You probably have a lot of nice, new parts that could be used more productively!
On second thought. it's probably waaaayyyyyyyy too expensive.
Geez, I wonder what stories the *NEXT* owner will have about the "PO".
YAMAHA DEALER: How may I help you?
NEW OWNER: I need a few parts for my 1992 FJ-1200.
YAMAHA DEALER: No problem.
<transaction ensues>
Later....
YAMAHA DEALER: How may I help you?
NEW OWNER: These fucking parts you sold me for my **1992 FJ-1200** (DON'T FIT/DON'T WORK)!!
YAMAHA DEALER: Ohhhhh.... You must have that _HYBRID_ bike I've heard so much about in the FJ Owner's forum. Our advice is to sell it for parts!!!
Quote from: racerman_27410 on September 11, 2011, 01:37:07 PM
Quote from: Mark Olson on September 11, 2011, 01:26:57 PM
There ya go Pat, Just keep all his posts in one spot makes it easier for me to avoid reading them by accident.
ditto..... i suggest the OP get a multimeter and learn how to use it.
it's not that hard
i
have
a
multimeter
and
i
use
it
just
fine
and
have
been
if
you
read
the
post
:good2:
Quote from: Steve_in_Florida on September 11, 2011, 01:45:50 PM
god forbid i tell anyone i put my bike up for sale
At least have the courtesy of listing it here, first. You probably have a lot of nice, new parts that could be used more productively!
On second thought. it's probably waaaayyyyyyyy too expensive.
Geez, I wonder what stories the *NEXT* owner will have about the "PO".
YAMAHA DEALER: How may I help you?
NEW OWNER: I need a few parts for my 1992 FJ-1200.
YAMAHA DEALER: No problem.
<transaction ensues>
Later....
YAMAHA DEALER: How may I help you?
NEW OWNER: These fucking parts you sold me for my **1992 FJ-1200** (DON'T FIT/DON'T WORK)!!
YAMAHA DEALER: Ohhhhh.... You must have that _HYBRID_ bike I've heard so much about in the FJ Owner's forum. Our advice is to sell it for parts!!!
[/quote]
i put it up for 2000 for a reason to see if anyone would even consider it.
it wasnt really to get rid of it, just to see if i could get 2000 for it. I couldnt even member i did that until someone brought it up
[quote author=irishluck link=topic=4862.msg43220#msg43220 date=1315769342
i
have
a
multimeter
and
i
use
it
just
fine
and
have
been
if
you
read
the
post
:good2:
[/quote]
then why is your shit not working ?
you tell me, your've owned an fj longer than i have?
Because you're a fucking idiot, is what he's saying.
Quote from: andyb on September 11, 2011, 03:19:56 PM
Because you're a fucking idiot, is what he's saying.
well thank you :biggrin: i appreciate that!
I decided to give irishluck a 7 day partial ban. He can still login to this forum and view posts - but he just cannot post himself. This will allow him some much needed time to re-read all of his threads for the answers to his problems.
i hope he watches this entire video..... he may actually be able to fix his wiring if he does.
http://youtu.be/Wslo0QSrs58 (http://youtu.be/Wslo0QSrs58)
you only need two things for the lights to work..... 12 volt power from the positive terminal on the battery and a good ground which eventually leads back to the negative terminal on the battery via the motorcycle chassis.
find out why you dont have one or the other and you will find your problem.
a multi meter and knowing how to use it is essential to this process
i promise this is the absolute LAST response Mr Luck will get from me on this subject.
Quote from: irishluck on September 11, 2011, 02:29:02 PM
Quote from: racerman_27410 on September 11, 2011, 01:37:07 PM
Quote from: Mark Olson on September 11, 2011, 01:26:57 PM
There ya go Pat, Just keep all his posts in one spot makes it easier for me to avoid reading them by accident.
ditto..... i suggest the OP get a multimeter and learn how to use it.
it's not that hard
i
have
a
multimeter
and
i
use
it
just
fine
and
have
been
if
you
read
the
post
:good2:
I am kind of late to this party but just wanted add this tasty morsel to the buffet... He reminds me of my identical twin step sons, 16 years old, nuff said.
http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?topic=4800.msg42372#msg42372 (http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?topic=4800.msg42372#msg42372)
Read down a few after my post to read Irish's reply...
Quote from: racerman_27410 on September 11, 2011, 04:29:29 PM
i hope he watches this entire video..... he may actually be able to fix his wiring if he does.
http://youtu.be/Wslo0QSrs58 (http://youtu.be/Wslo0QSrs58)
you only need two things for the lights to work..... 12 volt power from the positive terminal on the battery and a good ground which eventually leads back to the negative terminal on the battery via the motorcycle chassis.
find out why you dont have one or the other and you will find your problem.
a multi meter and knowing how to use it is essential to this process
i promise this is the absolute LAST response Mr Luck will get from me on this subject.
I quit a few days ago......
so im parting out my bike, tore top end off engine, camshafts are trashed, going to have to cut my loses here.
Let me know if anyone needs any parts. Thread in parts for sale category
Prices are neg.
I dont actually get what this thread or the original one was for. You had a working system so you said. Then you put a new one on and it failed to work?
Why dont you just use the original OEM setup and NOT LED lights? it would have saved you a hell of a lot of trouble.
If I am understanding everything it would have been a good idea in the start to ditch the LEDs, use original turn signals and a normal relay for at most 20$. Really simple that I even understand. Now I see why everyone was so frustrated.
Sorry to hear about failing on the repair, would be nice to by parts off your bike though, unfortunately location aint so good.
Just a 2cents in finalising things. My bike was knocked over a month ago - pissed me off as it broke my indicators. All i did was cut the indicators off my 125 suzuki and put them on and they worked fine. Point is you can use any run of the mill indicator bulbs, just dont use LEDS, even if they were working before. They arent now
system worked but the rear signals stems were broke, and front signals are embedded into the fairing, i wasn't planning on putting the fairing back on so that's why I needed new signals
everyone kept yelling at me to do it and so I did try that already. i did put the oem ones back on, never did switch the flashers, it had the stock one the whole time.
Still didn't work but it don't matter now, bikes being parted out, everything is there and im sure ill have these parts for awhile, PM me your address cause i might be able to get a decent shipping price to you since ill be shipping from where i work and we ship international all the time
I dont think any of the parts off your machine would match mine 100% although air scoops would be nice, I hadnt realise you didnt have the fairing. As the owner of the 1100 the signals are all on stems. Pics help :biggrin:
If you can tell me the total price including shipping to east london SA let me know even if its just a rough price