I never pushed my bike to the highest limits. fj1200 1986 almost stock as possible with aftermarket clutch. What is the most amount of rpm's that can be run with out tearing shit up. I was doing 90 mph last weekend on the parkway and was only keeping up with traffic. Any looking to ride in south jersy let me know, I have the weekends off.
I'm in the area for a little while longer (moving up to N Jersey shortly). Perhaps next Sunday get together for a ride? PM me if you're interested.
As for how fast these bikes go, an FJ 1100 with stock gearing (17-42 I think) has no problem getting into the low 140's. I run taller gearing (18-39) and the few times I've lost enough sense of self preservation to run that far up in the numbers my bike has done so without hesitation, even having no issues pushing my heavy ass, the bike and the enormous Givi side cases I have to 147 mph (GPS confirmed, by my friend acting as pace car in his M3) on one occasion. Granted, it took a while to get up there (and the bike was rock solid), but since I'm not one who makes a habit out of flying down boring, straight roads at go to jail speeds I'll not be repeating another curiosity top speed run anytime soon.
Redline on the 1100s is 9,500, and stock gearing on the earlier bikes (I guess so they could be 1/4 mile monsters, at the cost of rather high RPM's while cruising) was pretty short, so going to a taller gearing is a good idea just for better manners at highway speed.
Stock, I believe the top speed on radar was 145 according to some magazine review.
I wouldn't want to hold it much over 7k for terribly long personally, but if the airflow is good and you're not losing oil (i.e., bad ring seal or the like) you'd be okay to leave it singing pretty hard. Don't explore past redline and you'll be relatively safe if the motor is otherwise healthy.
The other concern is running out of fuel at those speeds and going lean, due to a wimpy pump, plugged filter, marginal venting, or some other problem. If it splutters or goes soft, get out of it.
Oh all right, since everybody else is doing it. 7500 in 5th was 140 on the speedo today. 18-38 gearing. I'm thinking the speedo is at least 10% optimistic, but cannot verify with one of those newfangled GPS thingies. If it's on your phone does it dial 911 for you?
My 1100 has GPS'd 146 and I know it has gone faster when I did not have it the gps with me.Thats with stock gearing :good:
Wide open on the FJ, between Atlanta and Augusta @ 5:00am, many years ago, the speedo was showing 158. This was everything the bike had. It was surprisingly smooth. Guessing that's +/- 147 actual.
This is INDICATED, not ACTUAL:
It was still climbing - I shut her down at 145 on the speedo. Mine is all stock except the Vance & Hines exhaust.
http://s5.photobucket.com/albums/y177/Lotsokids/FJ1200/?action=view¤t=FJ1200_145.mp4 (http://s5.photobucket.com/albums/y177/Lotsokids/FJ1200/?action=view¤t=FJ1200_145.mp4)
Quote from: beanbagsj on June 04, 2011, 04:06:30 PM
What is the most amount of rpm's that can be run with out tearing shit up.
until the rev limiter kicks in.
You don't have balls big enough to tear it up.
I have seen a FJ motor come out of a bike go into a car. Where it was held between 8-10 rpm's all season long (if not longer). This was aprox. 35 races which includes practices and heat races. Once the motor started getting tired it came out got rebuilt and did it all over again. Remember this is with the motor sideways, so less than great air flow, and with the oil light on so much it had to get disconnected.
Quote from: Travis398 on June 05, 2011, 07:57:04 AM
Quote from: beanbagsj on June 04, 2011, 04:06:30 PM
What is the most amount of rpm's that can be run with out tearing shit up.
until the rev limiter kicks in.
You don't have balls big enough to tear it up.
I have seen a FJ motor come out of a bike go into a car. Where it was held between 8-10 rpm's all season long (if not longer). This was aprox. 35 races which includes practices and heat races. Once the motor started getting tired it came out got rebuilt and did it all over again. Remember this is with the motor sideways, so less than great air flow, and with the oil light on so much it had to get disconnected.
there is no rev limiter on a 86 fj only the 1100's had them.
my personal best speed was 155mph verified by chp I-15 socal palm desert .
17-41 gears
vh 4-1 pipe
staged carbs
new head work
double clutch spring.
The fj loves to run at 100 all day
nice and stable.
as for the rpms kepp it under 10k :good:
240 kilodickets an hour, 20 percent compression loss over 4 cylinders.. WFO before brown undies time. maybe more than once. cant remember.
I'm not sure what top speed is on mine. I've had her up to 125mph a coupla times with engine rpm to spare but she gets a lil gutless beyond that. I'm a big dude, 6'2" 250lbs. I don't think she likes pushin me that fast. but yea, all the reviews of the day say 145-147mph
Quote from: E Double on June 04, 2011, 05:11:06 PMsince I'm not one who makes a habit out of flying down boring, straight roads at go to jail speeds I'll not be repeating another curiosity top speed run anytime soon.
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
Quote from: E Double on June 04, 2011, 05:11:06 PM
I'm in the area for a little while longer (moving up to N Jersey shortly).
Whereabouts are you moving to? the roads up here are pristine riding. lemme know when you wanna go, I love the Sussex County tour :biggrin:
Quote from: Mark Olson on June 05, 2011, 12:08:11 PM
my personal best speed was 155mph verified by chp I-15 socal palm desert .
That must've been an expensive ticket. I'm surprised you stopped to get the results
Quote from: Mark Olson on June 05, 2011, 12:08:11 PM
there is no rev limiter on a 86 fj only the 1100's had them.
Are you saying only the 1100's have rev limiters? or Just the 86 FJ doesn't have a rev limiter?
Or........................you have never gone high enough to find it on your 86?
Quote from: McKilla Guerilla on June 06, 2011, 12:11:21 AM
I'm not sure what top speed is on mine. I've had her up to 125mph a coupla times with engine rpm to spare but she gets a lil gutless beyond that. I'm a big dude, 6'2" 250lbs. I don't think she likes pushin me that fast. but yea, all the reviews of the day say 145-147mph
Quote from: E Double on June 04, 2011, 05:11:06 PMsince I'm not one who makes a habit out of flying down boring, straight roads at go to jail speeds I'll not be repeating another curiosity top speed run anytime soon.
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
Quote from: E Double on June 04, 2011, 05:11:06 PM
I'm in the area for a little while longer (moving up to N Jersey shortly).
Whereabouts are you moving to? the roads up here are pristine riding. lemme know when you wanna go, I love the Sussex County tour :biggrin:
We'll be up in West Orange, but I grew up in Warren county (just outside of Port Murray) so I'm pretty familiar with the roads in Hunterdon, Warren, Morris and Sussex counties. My ride to the ride typically involves me going at least up near New Hope/Lambertville, because the roads down here pretty much suck. I was just up on Rt 650, and I always try to get in a jog down to Lake Mohawk (I think that's 613, yeah?). I'm sure I've missed some choice roads up in Sussex though, and I'm always game for a ride. We'll definitely have to get together for a ride sometime soon.
Dennis
my 86 has a rev limiter and it kicks in at ~ 10,600
Quote from: E Double on June 06, 2011, 06:11:16 AM
We'll be up in West Orange, but I grew up in Warren county (just outside of Port Murray) so I'm pretty familiar with the roads in Hunterdon, Warren, Morris and Sussex counties. My ride to the ride typically involves me going at least up near New Hope/Lambertville, because the roads down here pretty much suck. I was just up on Rt 650, and I always try to get in a jog down to Lake Mohawk (I think that's 613, yeah?). I'm sure I've missed some choice roads up in Sussex though, and I'm always game for a ride. We'll definitely have to get together for a ride sometime soon.
Dennis
Yes That's 613, East Shore tr. the lake leg of it is a little boring but once it turns to Andover Mohawk rd things get fun. I absolutely love rt 661 in Lafayette (Beaver Run rd) & rt 521 through Warren/Sussex counties is a must ride ( The Owassa Tpk stretch is my personal favorite). rte 650 is good too, have you been to The Hawks Nest yet or ridden in Orange county NY @ all?
I'm sorry to hear your Moving to W. Orange. it's a nice place to live, your right next to Montclair, nice town with lots to do, but the riding there is beat. too many lights, people, cell phones etc.
Quote from: McKilla Guerilla on June 06, 2011, 12:11:21 AM
I'm not sure what top speed is on mine. I've had her up to 125mph a coupla times with engine rpm to spare but she gets a lil gutless beyond that. I'm a big dude, 6'2" 250lbs. I don't think she likes pushin me that fast. but yea, all the reviews of the day say 145-147mph
Mine goes up to top speed without any problems. Me being 6'6" tall and about 280 pounds (pure muscle :negative:) I'd say that's more than enough to test the speed capacity. But normally I don't rev past 6000 RPMs. I'm sure the FJ can take it, but mine is my daily driver and I can't afford to tear it up.
Reviews said 149 mph for a 85 FJ1100 a few mods and your 150 mph +.I wonder what top speed is in 5th when you hit the rev limiter.well I imagine its different on each FJ because its electrical.I think based on my speedometer my 1100 has gone closer to 155-156 as it was past 165 mph.Had no gps on me then.RPM I didnt look had stock gearing and I was off the limiter still.I dont see any 1100 or 1200 having any problem with 140-150 mph.The 1200 I just bought needs a lot of work I have not GPS'd it yet I will when its ready.
Has anyone removed the limiter if so what did you do to remove it.I dont see much need for it :yahoo:
Quote from: TRoy on June 06, 2011, 06:12:54 AM
my 86 has a rev limiter and it kicks in at ~ 10,600
that's valve float :rofl2:
Quote from: Mark Olson on June 05, 2011, 12:08:11 PM
Quote from: Travis398 on June 05, 2011, 07:57:04 AM
Quote from: beanbagsj on June 04, 2011, 04:06:30 PM
What is the most amount of rpm's that can be run with out tearing shit up.
until the rev limiter kicks in.
You don't have balls big enough to tear it up.
I have seen a FJ motor come out of a bike go into a car. Where it was held between 8-10 rpm's all season long (if not longer). This was aprox. 35 races which includes practices and heat races. Once the motor started getting tired it came out got rebuilt and did it all over again. Remember this is with the motor sideways, so less than great air flow, and with the oil light on so much it had to get disconnected.
there is no rev limiter on a 86 fj only the 1100's had them.
my personal best speed was 155mph verified by chp I-15 socal palm desert .
17-41 gears
vh 4-1 pipe
staged carbs
new head work
double clutch spring.
The fj loves to run at 100 all day
nice and stable.
as for the rpms kepp it under 10k :good:
My '90 has a limiter, stock ignition.... I know because I hit it the 1st time I rode her after installing the ign advancer. It hit it around 11k RPM.... :good2:
Quote from: McKilla Guerilla on June 06, 2011, 07:58:24 AM
Quote from: E Double on June 06, 2011, 06:11:16 AM
We'll be up in West Orange, but I grew up in Warren county (just outside of Port Murray) so I'm pretty familiar with the roads in Hunterdon, Warren, Morris and Sussex counties. My ride to the ride typically involves me going at least up near New Hope/Lambertville, because the roads down here pretty much suck. I was just up on Rt 650, and I always try to get in a jog down to Lake Mohawk (I think that's 613, yeah?). I'm sure I've missed some choice roads up in Sussex though, and I'm always game for a ride. We'll definitely have to get together for a ride sometime soon.
Dennis
Yes That's 613, East Shore tr. the lake leg of it is a little boring but once it turns to Andover Mohawk rd things get fun. I absolutely love rt 661 in Lafayette (Beaver Run rd) & rt 521 through Warren/Sussex counties is a must ride ( The Owassa Tpk stretch is my personal favorite). rte 650 is good too, have you been to The Hawks Nest yet or ridden in Orange county NY @ all?
I'm sorry to hear your Moving to W. Orange. it's a nice place to live, your right next to Montclair, nice town with lots to do, but the riding there is beat. too many lights, people, cell phones etc.
521 is a nice road definitely. I have been to Hawks Nest, a very cool road-in the middle of the week. I would like to do some riding in Orange county, and for that I'm thrilled with W Orange; Its a hell of a lot easier to get to Sussex, Orange and other places up there than from here. Shit, Hackettstown is 100 miles away from here, and honestly, there are only a handful of roads worth bothering with in 40 miles of here-its that bad. Great for the cruiser crowd I guess.
In reality any speed over 150mph on an FJ has you only guessing,you
are focusing so hard on the road ahead that a quick glance at the
guages is THE reality. I have seen my speedo off the dial at +/-
11,200rpm with 17/41 gearing which based on the charts in the files
section would be approx. 176mph. ('84FJ1100 137RWHP). What speed I
was actually doing was of little consequence as the adrenalin rush
was far greater than that experienced from the '99 Busa I
own. It's all about the "character" of the FJ at speed :-)
TeeCee
Quote from: Scooterbob on June 06, 2011, 10:46:31 AM
Mine goes up to top speed without any problems. Me being 6'6" tall and about 280 pounds (pure muscle :negative:) I'd say that's more than enough to test the speed capacity. But normally I don't rev past 6000 RPMs. I'm sure the FJ can take it, but mine is my daily driver and I can't afford to tear it up.
Mine is also a daily rider :biggrin: So @ 280lbs & only 6k rpms what is your top speed?
Quote from: McKilla Guerilla on June 06, 2011, 10:22:00 PM
Quote from: Scooterbob on June 06, 2011, 10:46:31 AM
Mine goes up to top speed without any problems. Me being 6'6" tall and about 280 pounds (pure muscle :negative:) I'd say that's more than enough to test the speed capacity. But normally I don't rev past 6000 RPMs. I'm sure the FJ can take it, but mine is my daily driver and I can't afford to tear it up.
Mine is also a daily rider :biggrin: So @ 280lbs & only 6k rpms what is your top speed?
Can't say right now. Don't have it memorized. But I'll put GPS on it this evening and let ya know.
Quote from: McKilla Guerilla on June 06, 2011, 10:22:00 PM
Quote from: Scooterbob on June 06, 2011, 10:46:31 AM
Mine goes up to top speed without any problems. Me being 6'6" tall and about 280 pounds (pure muscle :negative:) I'd say that's more than enough to test the speed capacity. But normally I don't rev past 6000 RPMs. I'm sure the FJ can take it, but mine is my daily driver and I can't afford to tear it up.
Mine is also a daily rider :biggrin: So @ 280lbs & only 6k rpms what is your top speed?
Well, I'm 250lbs, and have a full wingrack, Givi E41 side cases and crashbars (Which have to add at least 30 lbs to the weight) and at 6000 RPM in 5th I'm doing a touch less than 110. That's with 18-39 gearing.
While not my daily rider/driver I ride to work typically 3 times a week. Honestly, I don't have an artificial limit I put on engine RPM. But then again, how often does one stay above 6K RPM, especially with this torque monster? Granted, from the factory the early FJs had short gearing (and if you still have that on there you're going to be up in the 5's at highway speed, just to keep up) but that's why I went to the taller gearing-so I wouldn't be all in the motor's behind going 75mph. If the motor is in good mechanical condition I don't see what the worry will be, besides killing your gas mileage. My bike has 77K miles on it, runs like a top and only uses a half a quart over a 5000 mile oil change interval (Amsoil 10-40 motorcycle oil). That's less oil used than many cars with larger, less stressed engines with fewer miles on the clock. Something tells me that even when I rebuild the motor (sometime after 100K miles and when I can afford to have another bike to ride while this is apart) that it will be more because I want to and not because I have to.
Quote from: Scooterbob on June 07, 2011, 07:53:19 AM
Quote from: McKilla Guerilla on June 06, 2011, 10:22:00 PM
Quote from: Scooterbob on June 06, 2011, 10:46:31 AM
Mine goes up to top speed without any problems. Me being 6'6" tall and about 280 pounds (pure muscle :negative:) I'd say that's more than enough to test the speed capacity. But normally I don't rev past 6000 RPMs. I'm sure the FJ can take it, but mine is my daily driver and I can't afford to tear it up.
Mine is also a daily rider :biggrin: So @ 280lbs & only 6k rpms what is your top speed?
Can't say right now. Don't have it memorized. But I'll put GPS on it this evening and let ya know.
GPS says that I was going around 107 MPH @ 6K rpm. But I have 18T-40T gearing, which helps a little. Accuracy of gauges, GPS, and all other little things considered, of course.