uhhhh has anyone else found a tire to replace the front wheel??
the measurements i got off of it is 130/60 16
i dont understand :shok:
Stock front tire for the early models is a 120/80-16. Avon still makes one that fits.
Do you live in Jacksonville, or are you in the Navy down there?
DavidR.
does any brand 120/80-16 fit? or are there any other measurements i have to worry about?
and i live in Jacksonville, but im not in the Navy. been here for 22 years now. why do you ask?
Chris
Depends on whether you want to run bias ply or radial tires. Any 120/80-16 tire should fit.
I've made a few trips to Jacksonville in the last few months to the Naval Air Station. I'm hoping to be visiting there more often in the future for work.
I've grown fond of the Endorphine Rush hot sauce at Tijuana Flats. Their Tuesday taco special is quite a deal.
DavidR.
Quote from: SlowOldGuy on May 22, 2011, 01:37:15 AM
I've made a few trips to Jacksonville in the last few months to the Naval Air Station. I'm hoping to be visiting there more often in the future for work.
Funny, I was in Jacksonville two days last week on a sales deal.
Small world.
Dan
Im aware of the differences between radial vs bias ply but is there any reason why radial isnt elite in the motorcycle world?
I love going to NAS jax, its right down the road from me. My girl can get me on base, i like "tax free" haha
And in all the years ive lived here, ive never been to tiajuana flats, now i have to go try it!
Radials are the best tires in the motorcycle world*, just like in the car world. Remember that bike is very, very old, and is/was designed for the tires at the time. Tires have come a long way in the past ten years, nevermind the past 20 or more! Without looking it up, I'd guess that the prior owner put that 130 on the front because they were available in some "better" type/brand than the bias stuff (that size iirc was used on the CBR900RR).
Converting to the later front wheel, later front end, aftermarket wheel, or full fork swap should start going through your head around now, incidentally. There's lots of improvement to be had.
*excluding special purpose tires such as drag slicks, paddle tires, etc.
so i dont have the option of just getting a new tire off the web and getting it put on by a local shop? if i do, can you give me an example of a tire i can use?
im not quite grasping the full picture here, and im not asking to either. i would just like to know what option i have that is easiest and cheapest. I plan to have this bike for a long time and have plenty of time to upgrade parts later.
thanks for all your help guys!
Chris
Any tire in the size that it's supposed to have, or in the size that it currently has, will fit. Actually, any tire that fits that rim will fit (obv?), and there's a bunch that fit.
Avon AV45
Avon AM46
Continental ContiGo
Shinko 712
Bridgestone BT45
Pirelli Sport Demon
Michelin Pilot Activ
Michelin Madcam 100X
Dunlop GT501
IRC DuroTour RS310
Metzler Lasertec
Duro HF918
All have something that fit in those lines. I'd try bridgestone or avon myself, but it depends on what you want for wear vs grip, etc. Some are bias, some are radial.
Quote from: andyb on May 22, 2011, 04:36:39 PM
Any tire in the size that it's supposed to have, or in the size that it currently has, will fit. Actually, any tire that fits that rim will fit (obv?), and there's a bunch that fit.
Avon AV45
Avon AM46
Continental ContiGo
Shinko 712
Bridgestone BT45
Pirelli Sport Demon
Michelin Pilot Activ
Michelin Madcam 100X
Dunlop GT501
IRC DuroTour RS310
Metzler Lasertec
Duro HF918
All have something that fit in those lines. I'd try bridgestone or avon myself, but it depends on what you want for wear vs grip, etc. Some are bias, some are radial.
If it helps, I have burned off three sets of Avon AV45 tires off my front and the rear AV46 is ready for new. The Avons worked for me as canyon carvers. I spent today chasing San Dimas Mike up to Crystal lake and back on his Sport Demons. Both are good tires for the corners. Neither of us have gone to the edge (we have Chicken strips). I ran Lasertecs on my 86 CBR 600 with no issues. That was my $0.02. Back your regular programming.
I second the motion for the AVon AV45 -- I have those on my 86.
I run the AV45/46 combo on my bike. They rock; Handling is fantastic, and they wear exceptionally well (I just replaced my rear at 9K miles and my front looks to be good for another 2 or 3K). As long as they're available I don't really have to think about front and rear wheel/fork/swingarm swaps, which I couldn't afford right now anyway...
What is the stock tire size for a 89? I am in the market for new tires.
Quote from: chapindad on May 31, 2011, 10:59:20 AM
What is the stock tire size for a 89? I am in the market for new tires.
Rear: 150/80-16
Front: 120/70-17
Well while were on topic, what do the guys running 17" x 5.5" rear rims like to wrap them in?
Dunlop Roadsmarts
120/70-17 front
170/60-17 rear
CraigO
front Michelin pilot power 120/70/17
rear Michelin road 2ct 180/55/17
:gamer: :gamer: :gamer:
Depends on the riding you do... I adore my shinko 003, but unless you're riding on a glued racetrack after a long burnout, you won't think much of it :)
Quote from: fb747 on May 31, 2011, 11:40:00 AM
Well while were on topic, what do the guys running 17" x 5.5" rear rims like to wrap them in?
Just installed Dunlop Roadsmarts...
120/70-17 F, and
180/55-17 R
Pretty darned nice, but they are still new. They came highly regarded for this bike and the stress the front sees from weight + great handling. I have the Pilot Powers on my Beemer and they are great too, but the tire shop thought the FJ would burn through them too quickly...?
Frank
I think I've posted this before,
I consider the 3000 miles I got out of my Roadsmart front tire as "burining through them too quickly."
Not sure what to try next.
DavidR.
Has anyone fitted Avon Roadrider AM26 to an FJ? Both my FJs have Avon Azaro/Storms and I'm happy with then but for the older bike I'm thinking about going back to bias tyres for hopefully more mileage. I do a fair amount of miles and I find I'm only getting 5-6,000 from the radials. Incidentally, looking at my records, I've fitted 15 fronts and 23 rears to my FJs over the years.
Stuart
Quote from: Mark Olson on May 31, 2011, 12:27:40 PM
front Michelin pilot power 120/70/17
rear Michelin road 2ct 180/55/17
:gamer: :gamer: :gamer:
Mark-
Have you run this combo? I wonder because it what I plan next (actually the Road 3, for the rear but close enough) -do you get more consistent wear front to back?
Just wondering.
Dan
Pilot Road 2's on my FJ:
120 x 70 x 17 on front
170 x 60 x 17 on rear
20,000km.
I have just replaced the rear with another. The front is still good.
Bill.
I have read some good reviews on the Dunlop Qualifiers. Thinking of trying a pair. I spend more time turning than slabbing. Not quite a hijack, might help the bloke out choosing tires.
I still like the Shinko Ravens.
Every bit as good as the Avons I replaced with 'em, and they were pretty good. :good:
Did I mention that they're really cheap, to boot? :biggrin:
Randy T
Indy
Quote from: Dan Filetti on May 31, 2011, 04:12:25 PM
Quote from: Mark Olson on May 31, 2011, 12:27:40 PM
front Michelin pilot power 120/70/17
rear Michelin road 2ct 180/55/17
:gamer: :gamer: :gamer:
Mark-
Have you run this combo? I wonder because it what I plan nexQuote from: craigo on May 23, 2011, 10:34:01 AM
Quote from: Flynt on May 23, 2011, 10:02:45 AM
I'm reading about Dunlop Roadsmarts and it sounds like potentially a great fit. I use the FJ for commute and the occasional twisties ride. The tire shop pretty much nixxed my PP or PP 2CT thoughts (<3000 miles predicted when I showed my 021 wear) and their strong recommendation was for the Dunlops. Anyone have experience with these tires?
Frank
+1 on the Roadsmarts!!! I have a 120/70-17 front and a 170/60-17 rear. Stick like glue but are not as stable in a straight line as the Michelin I had. Not that that's a bad thing as I prefer the quicker handling. I have about 1k miles on them and seem to be wearing just fine. No cupping on the front and no chicken stripes on the back. I will buy them as long as they keep making them or something better comes along.
I had a Roadsmart on the front and while happy with the grip it did triangulate with a distinct edge developing at the transition point between the two compounds making the steering progressively heavy. The wear rate was fairly even between the centre and the sides. My current Michelin has the same issue with triangulation and progressively heavier steering AND a line around each tyre which is apparently partial delaminating between the compounds! The new Conti Attack 2's achieve the "dual compound" effect by applying different amounts of heat during manufacture. Hotter in the centre making it harder, less to the sides. The idea is a seamless and progressive transition from hardwearing centre to grippy sides. Independent reviews look good and theory makes sense. I am about to fit a front and will report back on performance.
Noel
Quote from: ribbert on May 31, 2011, 09:30:27 PM
Quote from: Dan Filetti on May 31, 2011, 04:12:25 PM
Quote from: Mark Olson on May 31, 2011, 12:27:40 PM
front Michelin pilot power 120/70/17
rear Michelin road 2ct 180/55/17
:gamer: :gamer: :gamer:
Mark-
Have you run this combo? I wonder because it what I plan nexQuote from: craigo on May 23, 2011, 10:34:01 AM
Quote from: Flynt on May 23, 2011, 10:02:45 AM
I'm reading about Dunlop Roadsmarts and it sounds like potentially a great fit. I use the FJ for commute and the occasional twisties ride. The tire shop pretty much nixxed my PP or PP 2CT thoughts (<3000 miles predicted when I showed my 021 wear) and their strong recommendation was for the Dunlops. Anyone have experience with these tires?
Frank
+1 on the Roadsmarts!!! I have a 120/70-17 front and a 170/60-17 rear. Stick like glue but are not as stable in a straight line as the Michelin I had. Not that that's a bad thing as I prefer the quicker handling. I have about 1k miles on them and seem to be wearing just fine. No cupping on the front and no chicken stripes on the back. I will buy them as long as they keep making them or something better comes along.
I had a Roadsmart on the front and while happy with the grip it did triangulate with a distinct edge developing at the transition point between the two compounds making the steering progressively heavy. The wear rate was fairly even between the centre and the sides. My current Michelin has the same issue with triangulation and progressively heavier steering AND a line around each tyre which is apparently partial delaminating between the compounds! The new Conti Attack 2's achieve the "dual compound" effect by applying different amounts of heat during manufacture. Hotter in the centre making it harder, less to the sides. The idea is a seamless and progressive transition from hardwearing centre to grippy sides. Independent reviews look good and theory makes sense. I am about to fit a front and will report back on performance.
Noel
Bugger...The reply must be in there somewhere? I took out many unused spaces....
Thanks for your input all.
I think i'm going to try running the 180 roadsmart, all I have to do now is fit the rim that will accept such a tyre. Bring on the weekend!
I love a good tyre discussion it's like old ladies arguing about what brand of washing powder they like.
Quote from: fb747 on June 01, 2011, 01:56:25 AM
Thanks for your input all.
I think i'm going to try running the 180 roadsmart, all I have to do now is fit the rim that will accept such a tyre. Bring on the weekend!
I love a good tyre discussion it's like old ladies arguing about what brand of washing powder they like.
Washing powder?
They still make that stuff? :scratch_one-s_head:
Randy T
Indy
Quote from: Dan Filetti on May 31, 2011, 04:12:25 PM
Quote from: Mark Olson on May 31, 2011, 12:27:40 PM
front Michelin pilot power 120/70/17
rear Michelin road 2ct 180/55/17
:gamer: :gamer: :gamer:
Mark-
Have you run this combo? I wonder because it what I plan next (actually the Road 3, for the rear but close enough) -do you get more consistent wear front to back?
Just wondering.
Dan
wow , just checking posts now .
yes I am running this combo now for the first time . the Idea is the front and rear will wear out at the same time.
I like the pilot powers but the rear burned up before the front. I replaced the rear at 3000 mi and the front went 4000mi.
I will see how long it takes to wear these out but they should wear nice and even . I would rather have the sticky tires than the mileage.
also the michelins fit the rear swingarm with out hitting the chain like the avons and others.
I run a michelilotn Pilot 2 dual compund tire and LOVE IT runs well on highway and semms to be sticky in the twisties!!!! :wacko3:
I used dunlop in the 120 80 16 or bridgestone ,both grip well wet or dry but wear fairly fast being 16 inch on a heavy bike, since changed over to 17 inch front, better choices of tyres
I had shinko tyres on an xj750 seca, they started de,laminating at 600 km importer sent me a new rear free of charge , i opted for a better brand on the front
pilot road??? anyone???
Quote from: fj11.5 on June 07, 2011, 01:29:49 AM
I had shinko tyres on an xj750 seca, they started de,laminating at 600 km importer sent me a new rear free of charge , i opted for a better brand on the front
FYI,
every brand turns out a bad tire once in a while.
How they handle it determines, at least in part, whether they are a 'good brand' or not, IMO
Sounds like they took care of you.
Randy T
Indy
Yep, there has been a few dodgy tyres on the market, had shinko tyres before and for what they cost had been brilliant tyres
Quote from: fb747 on June 07, 2011, 08:04:53 AM
pilot road??? anyone???
yes. pilot road (I) rear & power 2CT front is my combo of choice, best mileage + they wear out at the same time. 5000+ mi, all other rear sport radials I have tried before & since give up by 3500, and usually less than 2500 on 2CT power
that old school p road is a great tire for the rear!
Dunlop have released their road smart 2 here... now i'm all confused... :empathy:
http://112.78.208.228/catalogue/10174/roadsmart2.jpg (http://112.78.208.228/catalogue/10174/roadsmart2.jpg)
your guess is as good as mine.
Quote from: fb747 on June 10, 2011, 05:55:49 AM
Dunlop have released their road smart 2 here... now i'm all confused... :empathy:
http://112.78.208.228/catalogue/10174/roadsmart2.jpg (http://112.78.208.228/catalogue/10174/roadsmart2.jpg)
your guess is as good as mine.
Having a problem with the literature? It says "Dunlop" and "Sportmax 2". What is the F%$# problem? Put them on and ride it like you stole it. I just ordered one for my Purple rear. But the Purple will be gone...and I will need some other cosmetic issue with my bike to keep the paparazzi snapping photos. The moon boots are already gone as I am now home from the WCR where I left them....Anything else?
It is important to ride what you know. I have ventured into the realm of 17" for my rear. Holy F%$# crap, more choices than a mosquito has in a nudist camp. I burn through three fronts (Avon AV45) to one rear (Avon AV46). This is in part to running a 120 front on a 3" wheel, it is pinched and the sides get scrapped off quicker than a proper front profile. After my front upgrade to 17" 3.5 inch I should see different wear differentials. Find tires that fit you....