I'm sure I'm not the 1st but don't know what to do. My '92 fj1200 front fender was ready to fall off. All the small mounting holes are completely gone and the main mounting holes are are very cracked and one is totally gone. Not sure if plastic welding would work. Can't find a single used one anywhere on the internet or locally. ANY SUGGESTIONS??
punt
Buy a new one. (http://rpmracingca.com/proddetail.asp?prod=M%2FC%3AFJFF)
Randy - RPM
Quote from: Spanky on August 23, 2013, 10:14:46 PM
I'm sure I'm not the 1st but don't know what to do. My '92 fj1200 front fender was ready to fall off. All the small mounting holes are completely gone and the main mounting holes are are very cracked and one is totally gone. Not sure if plastic welding would work. Can't find a single used one anywhere on the internet or locally. ANY SUGGESTIONS??
Not the correct color but RPM has new fenders http://www.rpmracingca.com/proddetail.asp?prod=M%2FC%3AFJFF (http://www.rpmracingca.com/proddetail.asp?prod=M%2FC%3AFJFF).
You can with some ABS plastic and glue and rebuild those tabs. I have done it. It takes time and a desire to do it.
George
OK, Randy beat me to it :lol: :lol: :lol:
I do believe the blue, silver, and the dark blue fenders are no longer available new from anywhere.
I think Randy @ RPM is able to still get the red and solid black front fender front halves.
http://www.rpmracingca.com/proddetail.asp?prod=M%2FC%3AFJFF (http://www.rpmracingca.com/proddetail.asp?prod=M%2FC%3AFJFF)
FJowners club in the UK has black or white fiberglass versions available. The ad does mention up to a 28 day lead time.
http://www.fjcatalogue.com/catalog/item/7179686/9883641.htm (http://www.fjcatalogue.com/catalog/item/7179686/9883641.htm)
Motorhead out of Spain also offers the front half and rear half as a set. Made of fiberglass and no holes drilled in the tabs. From others that have ordered bodywork from this site. There is a very long lead time. They actually lay-up your part after you place the order.
http://www.fairings.net/index.php?pag=catalogo2&cat=1&marca=YAMAHA&modelo=FJ+1200+86-87&ref=106Y1 (http://www.fairings.net/index.php?pag=catalogo2&cat=1&marca=YAMAHA&modelo=FJ+1200+86-87&ref=106Y1)
Basically you have 3 choices, troll along on eBay, possibly for months finding a 92' fender, or make a purchase from one of the above companies and obtain some color matched paint, or hopefully a fellow member has one available.
Fred
I used a metal shim behind the tab for extra strength when I glued it back on. Also, to prevent breakage in the future, get a fork brace. That really helps keep the forks from flexing the fender and breaking the tabs. It'll also help improve the handling.
CraigO
I've got a brand new front half of the 92-93 fender #36y 21511-01-p2. $110.00 plus shipping.
Hein.
Doesn't the bandit front fender work too????
edit: correct me if I'm wrong, but the 97-2000 bandit 1200 front fender will bolt on. They look identical but the bandit is all one piece
Quote from: HARTLESS on August 24, 2013, 02:29:01 PM
Doesn't the bandit front fender work too????
edit: correct me if I'm wrong, but the 97-2000 bandit 1200 front fender will bolt on. They look identical but the bandit is all one piece
I just looked at them via the Suzuki parts and yes they are one piece. It is a different look/style to the fender and only uses the upper center four mounting bolts. If the bolt pattern is the same it might work.
The deal with that is they are expensive. The are priced new from $200.00-350.00 depending on the color you want to buy according to Suzuki.
You will also have to buy the "upper & lower brace" as it is flat and not curved like the FJ and that is around $55.00.
Since there is no outer mounting bolts, they use a "cushion" on each side of the fender on the sliders.
I personally cannot see how it would mount to the FJ forks as the tabs from the sliders require an top side fender mounting position and the Suzuki looks like it requires an under mount. The bottom of the FJ slider tabs are not flat like the top side, so there is not way to mount with out modifying the tabs and then the holes look like they are too far inboard.
(http://tinyurl.com/lodaymd)
(http://tinyurl.com/md8bs2k)
It might work, but someone is going to have buy one and see what is required to get it to fit.
Randy - RPM
Quote from: racerrad8 on August 24, 2013, 03:00:30 PM
Quote from: HARTLESS on August 24, 2013, 02:29:01 PM
Doesn't the bandit front fender work too????
edit: correct me if I'm wrong, but the 97-2000 bandit 1200 front fender will bolt on. They look identical but the bandit is all one piece
I just looked at them via the Suzuki parts and yes they are one piece. It is a different look/style to the fender and only uses the upper center four mounting bolts. If the bolt pattern is the same it might work.
The deal with that is they are expensive. The are priced new from $200.00-350.00 depending on the color you want to buy according to Suzuki.
You will also have to buy the "upper & lower brace" as it is flat and not curved like the FJ and that is around $55.00.
Since there is no outer mounting bolts, they use a "cushion" on each side of the fender on the sliders.
I personally cannot see how it would mount to the FJ forks as the tabs from the sliders require an top side fender mounting position and the Suzuki looks like it requires an under mount. The bottom of the FJ slider tabs are not flat like the top side, so there is not way to mount with out modifying the tabs and then the holes look like they are too far inboard.
(http://tinyurl.com/lodaymd)
(http://tinyurl.com/md8bs2k)
It might work, but someone is going to have buy one and see what is required to get it to fit.
Randy - RPM
I tried to find the post but someone posted pictures of their fj with the bandit front fender. Its been a while since I saw it but I think they said it was a direct swap...im still looking for the post
Thanks for the input
went digging thru a pile of fenders at local salvage today and found what was tagged as a '83 kz1000 that looked very similar to the Suzuki one you're showing. Little more flexible that the FJ abs plastic but they wouldn't budge on the $100 old price tag. Didn't want to pay that for a big maybe and all the scratches. May just have to order the one from RPM tonite and figure something out for the rear half.
Was wondering, but haven't found, if one from an XJ might be something to work with.
anyways...thanks & I'll let ya know what worked.
from what I recall, the Suzuki fender is used with the stock FJ OEM fork brace. The brace is flattened straight and the Suzuki fender is mounted to it.
Tony
Are there any other Yamahas of the same time frame that have the same or very similar fork sliders? Maybe would also have a compatible fender that may not be as hard to find? Or am I dreaming?!
I've never tried it, but it might a worth a shot... :unknown:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1988-YAMAHA-FZR1000-FRONT-FENDER-COMPLETE-VG-EXC-COND-/160984919396?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item257b72ed64&vxp=mtr (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1988-YAMAHA-FZR1000-FRONT-FENDER-COMPLETE-VG-EXC-COND-/160984919396?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item257b72ed64&vxp=mtr)
Quote from: Antonn3 on August 24, 2013, 10:17:10 PM
...The brace is flattened straight and the Suzuki fender is mounted to it.
Tony
If you flatten the curve out of the stock FJ fender support it becomes longer and will not fit between the forks, properly at least.
I still cannot see how the bandit fender will mount to the tabs on the front forks of the FJ as they appear to me to be opposite of what is required, but I have not seen the bandit fender mounted.
Quote from: fj1289 on August 24, 2013, 10:19:29 PM
Are there any other Yamahas of the same time frame that have the same or very similar fork sliders? Maybe would also have a compatible fender that may not be as hard to find? Or am I dreaming?!
Well, the FJ fender parts numbers do not cross reference to any other Yamaha model, so to find something that can bolt is will take the research, time & money to invest in similar fenders to see if they would fit.
For now, the front portion of the fender is readily available in red & metallic black.
Randy - RPM
"Spanky", its going to be hard to beat just buying a new FJ fender or fix the one you have IMO. :good2:
George
Randy, if you trace the OEM fork brace (following its curvature) and then laid out the piece of paper flat, the length of the OEM brace only increases 1/8" .
With the OEM brace in place between the forks, you will note that you have 1/8" on each side to play with length wise, so the flattened brace could lengthen up to 1/4" before you have to trim it. But you wont have to.
Elongate the flattened mounting holes a bit inwards.
Then simply drill the 4 holes to hold the Bandit fender in place.
I personally would use heavier flat aluminum stock to make it a "better" brace than the stock one.
Tony
Quote from: Antonn3 on August 25, 2013, 08:42:47 PM
Randy, if you trace the OEM fork brace (following its curvature) and then laid out the piece of paper flat, the length of the OEM brace only increases 1/8"
Tony
Okay, I'll take your word for it as far as modifying the parts to fit,
I still cannot envision that fender mounting to the FJ tabs from the forks as the protrude inward and the fender in the picture does not have a place for the tabs to mount.
(http://tinyurl.com/md8bs2k)
If you look at the FJ fender you can see there is nothing to the side of the fender allow the tabs to reach under the fender and the outer tabs are there to control the up & down movement.
(http://rpmracingca.com/prodimages/large/M%20C%20FJFF-1.jpg)
I still have not seen a bandit fender mounted to an FJ without major modification(s) as the fender is going to have to be cut to fit as well which will weaken the rigidity of it.
Maybe someone should buy one & try it and then the definitive answer can be obtained whether it will fit or not.
Randy - RPM
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/5/1500_26_08_13_1_02_19_2.jpeg)
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/5/1500_26_08_13_1_02_18_1.jpeg)
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/5/1500_26_08_13_1_02_18_0.jpeg)
Quote from: Antonn3 on August 25, 2013, 08:42:47 PM
I personally would use heavier flat aluminum stock to make it a "better" brace than the stock one.
Tony
Another 'monkey made part opportunity? :scratch_one-s_head:
Well, there you go. The fender is narrower than the tabs
Now, there is a definitive answer.
Is that your bike Tony?
If it is, did you do anything with the bottom side of the rivets for tire clearance?
Randy. - RPM
Quote from: not a lib on August 26, 2013, 08:42:15 AM
Quote from: Antonn3 on August 25, 2013, 08:42:47 PM
I personally would use heavier flat aluminum stock to make it a "better" brace than the stock one.
Tony
Another 'monkey made part opportunity? :scratch_one-s_head:
Once my employment situation seems stable again I want to get two projects moving. An alternate front fender and adding a fuel pump.
Quote from: racerrad8 on August 26, 2013, 08:57:40 AM
Well, there you go. The fender is narrower than the tabs
Now, there is a definitive answer.
Is that your bike Tony?
If it is, did you do anything with the bottom side of the rivets for tire clearance?
Randy. - RPM
Tony, The fender and bracket look pretty good as a substitute for the OEM fender. :good2:
Randy, A possible solution to the pull rivet tails contacting the tire. These are not easy to get for most people, but solid rivets used on aircraft have a much lower profile and don't leave an extended tail on the bottom side.
Fred
Quote from: aviationfred on August 26, 2013, 01:37:13 PM
Randy, A possible solution to the pull rivet tails contacting the tire. These are not easy to get for most people, but solid rivets used on aircraft have a much lower profile and don't leave an extended tail on the bottom side.
Fred
I know aircraft rivets are better, but those looked like pop rivets. Now that I have looked at that from my computer instead of my phone they actually look like screws which would require nuts on the backside.
Randy - RPM
Quote from: racerrad8 on August 26, 2013, 01:52:13 PM
Quote from: aviationfred on August 26, 2013, 01:37:13 PM
Randy, A possible solution to the pull rivet tails contacting the tire. These are not easy to get for most people, but solid rivets used on aircraft have a much lower profile and don't leave an extended tail on the bottom side.
Fred
I know aircraft rivets are better, but those looked like pop rivets. Now that I have looked at that from my computer instead of my phone they actually look like screws which would require nuts on the backside.
Randy - RPM
Second that, they look like Ace hardware "Allen" head bolts to me. But why would the tires impact the nuts if the bolts were cut close ? Guess I need to go out and see how much clearance I have.
Unless you just have a Bandit fender laying around I still think the best buy is a stock FJ fender :lol: :lol:
George
Also don't forget this thread -- fiberglass version both front and rear:
http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?topic=2609.0 (http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?topic=2609.0)
What I like about the bandit fender is the one piece construction. I think the two piece construction of the FJ fender makes it more failure prone - puts more stress on the mounting tabs. That as well as the whole fork twist thing without a brace. The bandit fender looks like it addresses both of those issues
Quote from: fj1289 on August 26, 2013, 04:36:58 PM
Also don't forget this thread -- fiberglass version both front and rear:
http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?topic=2609.0 (http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?topic=2609.0)
What I like about the bandit fender is the one piece construction. I think the two piece construction of the FJ fender makes it more failure prone - puts more stress on the mounting tabs. That as well as the whole fork twist thing without a brace. The bandit fender looks like it addresses both of those issues
Good points :good2: I looked on e bay and the prices are not to bad for used ones. So I stand corrected. They might be a good conversion. Think I will still stay with the stock one until the next time it falls off :lol: :lol:
George
Well....Finally ordered a front half of the fender and a fork brace from RPM. Just waiting til it all shows up. Still need to figure out how to replace the rear half of the front fender.
Quote from: Spanky on October 20, 2013, 03:12:02 PM
Well....Finally ordered a front half of the fender and a fork brace from RPM. Just waiting til it all shows up. Still need to figure out how to replace the rear half of the front fender.
This may be the color you need. The shipper does ship world wide.
http://www.ebay.de/itm/FK152-Yamaha-FJ-1200-3YA-ABS-Fender-hinterer-Teil-Schutzblech-Verkleidung-/281161855897?pt=DE_Motorradteile&hash=item41768d7399 (http://www.ebay.de/itm/FK152-Yamaha-FJ-1200-3YA-ABS-Fender-hinterer-Teil-Schutzblech-Verkleidung-/281161855897?pt=DE_Motorradteile&hash=item41768d7399)
Fred
Fred, that looks like a good fender half, but it is the lighter blue used on the 91. The 92-93 were a darker purple.
Not that it really matter, just FYI.
Leon
Quote from: 1tinindian on October 20, 2013, 08:09:27 PM
Fred, that looks like a good fender half, but it is the lighter blue used on the 91. The 92-93 were a darker purple.
Not that it really matter, just FYI.
Leon
I was pretty sure it was a 91'. As hard as they are too come by these days, we can't be that picky with colors. Lately eBay Germany is about the only place that I have seen used rear halves that are in good shape.
Over the summer I had my rear half tear off the bike while riding. I actually found a silver one the same day one eBay Germany.
Fred