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My front fender broke - Now What??

Started by Spanky, August 23, 2013, 10:14:46 PM

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movenon

"Spanky", its going to be hard to beat just buying a new FJ fender or fix the one you have IMO.  :good2:
George
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1990 FJ 1200

Antonn3

Randy, if you trace the OEM fork brace (following its curvature) and then laid out the piece of paper flat, the length of the OEM brace  only increases 1/8" .
With the OEM brace  in place between the forks, you will note that you have 1/8" on each side to play with length wise, so the flattened brace could lengthen up to 1/4" before you have to trim it. But you wont have to.
Elongate the flattened mounting holes a bit inwards.
Then simply drill the 4 holes to hold the Bandit fender in place.
I personally would use heavier flat  aluminum stock to make it a "better" brace than the stock one.

Tony

racerrad8

Quote from: Antonn3 on August 25, 2013, 08:42:47 PM
Randy, if you trace the OEM fork brace (following its curvature) and then laid out the piece of paper flat, the length of the OEM brace  only increases 1/8"
Tony

Okay, I'll take your word for it as far as modifying the parts to fit,

I still cannot envision that fender mounting to the FJ tabs from the forks as the protrude inward and the fender in the picture does not have a place for the tabs to mount.



If you look at the FJ fender you can see there is nothing to the side of the fender allow the tabs to reach under the fender and the outer tabs are there to control the up & down movement.



I still have not seen a bandit fender mounted to an FJ without major modification(s) as the fender is going to have to be cut to fit as well which will weaken the rigidity of it.

Maybe someone should buy one & try it and then the definitive answer can be obtained whether it will fit or not.

Randy - RPM

Randy - RPM

Antonn3


Antonn3


Antonn3


rktmanfj

Quote from: Antonn3 on August 25, 2013, 08:42:47 PM
I personally would use heavier flat  aluminum stock to make it a "better" brace than the stock one.

Tony


Another 'monkey made part opportunity?    :scratch_one-s_head:

Randy T
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racerrad8

Well, there you go. The fender is narrower than the tabs

Now, there is a definitive answer.

Is that your bike Tony?

If it is, did you do anything with the bottom side of the rivets for tire clearance?

Randy. - RPM
Randy - RPM

FJmonkey

Quote from: not a lib on August 26, 2013, 08:42:15 AM
Quote from: Antonn3 on August 25, 2013, 08:42:47 PM
I personally would use heavier flat  aluminum stock to make it a "better" brace than the stock one.

Tony


Another 'monkey made part opportunity?    :scratch_one-s_head:

Once my employment situation seems stable again I want to get two projects moving. An alternate front fender and adding a fuel pump.
The glass is not half full, it was engineered with a 2X safety factor.

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aviationfred

Quote from: racerrad8 on August 26, 2013, 08:57:40 AM
Well, there you go. The fender is narrower than the tabs

Now, there is a definitive answer.

Is that your bike Tony?

If it is, did you do anything with the bottom side of the rivets for tire clearance?

Randy. - RPM

Tony, The fender and bracket look pretty good as a substitute for the OEM fender.  :good2:

Randy, A possible solution to the pull rivet tails contacting the tire. These are not easy to get for most people, but solid rivets used on aircraft have a much lower profile and don't leave an extended tail on the bottom side.

Fred
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racerrad8

Quote from: aviationfred on August 26, 2013, 01:37:13 PM
Randy, A possible solution to the pull rivet tails contacting the tire. These are not easy to get for most people, but solid rivets used on aircraft have a much lower profile and don't leave an extended tail on the bottom side.

Fred

I know aircraft rivets are better, but those looked like pop rivets. Now that I have looked at that from my computer instead of my phone they actually look like screws which would require nuts on the backside.

Randy - RPM

Randy - RPM

movenon

Quote from: racerrad8 on August 26, 2013, 01:52:13 PM
Quote from: aviationfred on August 26, 2013, 01:37:13 PM
Randy, A possible solution to the pull rivet tails contacting the tire. These are not easy to get for most people, but solid rivets used on aircraft have a much lower profile and don't leave an extended tail on the bottom side.

Fred

I know aircraft rivets are better, but those looked like pop rivets. Now that I have looked at that from my computer instead of my phone they actually look like screws which would require nuts on the backside.

Randy - RPM



Second that, they look like Ace hardware "Allen" head bolts to me. But why would the tires impact the nuts if the bolts were cut close ? Guess I need to go out and see how much clearance I have.

Unless you just have a Bandit fender laying around I still think the best buy is a stock FJ fender  :lol: :lol:

George
Life isn't about having the best, but about making the best of what you have...

1990 FJ 1200

fj1289

Also don't forget this thread -- fiberglass version both front and rear:
http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?topic=2609.0

What I like about the bandit fender is the one piece construction. I think the two piece construction of the FJ fender makes it more failure prone - puts more stress on the mounting tabs. That as well as the whole fork twist thing without a brace. The bandit fender looks like it addresses both of those issues

movenon

Quote from: fj1289 on August 26, 2013, 04:36:58 PM
Also don't forget this thread -- fiberglass version both front and rear:
http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?topic=2609.0

What I like about the bandit fender is the one piece construction. I think the two piece construction of the FJ fender makes it more failure prone - puts more stress on the mounting tabs. That as well as the whole fork twist thing without a brace. The bandit fender looks like it addresses both of those issues

Good points  :good2: I looked on e bay and the prices are not to bad for used ones. So I stand corrected. They might be a good conversion. Think I will still stay with the stock one until the next time it falls off  :lol: :lol:
George
Life isn't about having the best, but about making the best of what you have...

1990 FJ 1200

Spanky

Well....Finally ordered a front half of the fender and a fork brace from RPM. Just waiting til it all shows up. Still need to figure out how to replace the rear half of the front fender.