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Unplanned Man Shed time SoCal

Started by FJmonkey, July 05, 2013, 09:58:54 PM

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FJmonkey

July 05, 2013, 09:58:54 PM
I removed my fairing on Thur to deal with intermittent headlamp issues (on/off) and lack of High beam and an oil leak.... Well, I broke the two tabs off near the headlamp...SHIT!!!  :dash1: :dash1: :dash1: I remembered that Mike (Skymasterers) is not only SoCal but welds plastic. A quick PM and I am talking with Mike and making an emergency visit to his FJ shop. He says he can have me over and we set a time. Once I arrive he makes some room on his bench and proceeds to cut some scrap ABS to demonstrate the process. Not that complicated once I saw the process. Then it was my turn, much easier than I thought, the 6 months as apprentice and countless broken fairings to fix were not required. I took to it like a duck to water. After a short practice run Mike proclaimed me ready to weld. Yea!!! The flanges are quite thin so I had work quick then move on to allow it cool before I returned. I also fixed the broken tab that held the RH turn signal. It fell out when I moved the fairing to the garage. Damn!!! I got all my welding done and jumped in to help Mike get his FJ back together. I was good on my word and brought the beverages, good thing too, it must have been 100F at his house, and can you believe his garage is not air conditioned???? Slacker... Then we had some lunch and some good chit chat over the grub. I can't thank Mike enough for teaching me the Black Magic of plastic welding.... Today was a good day to spend time in the FJ Man Shed, a little hot but very worth it....
The glass is not half full, it was engineered with a 2X safety factor.

'86 Ambulance - Bent frame, cracked case, due for an overhaul
'89 Stormy Blue - Suits my Dark Side

aviationfred

#1
July 05, 2013, 10:10:22 PM
Sounds like time well spent Man Shed Time with a fellow FJer.... :drinks:

Fred
I'm not the fastest FJ rider, I am 'half-fast', the fastest slow guy....

Current
2008 VFR800 RC46 Vtec
1996 VFR750 RC36/2
1990 FJ1300 (1297cc) Casper
1990 VFR750 RC36/1 Minnie
1989 FJ1200 Lazarus, the Streetfighter Project
1985 VF500F RC31 Interceptor

rktmanfj

#2
July 06, 2013, 12:04:39 AM

What kind of equipment were you using?    :unknown:

I've been toying with the idea of getting one of the Harbor Freight units and trying my hand at it for a while now, and my project FJ has me thinking about it again.

Randy T
Indy

Blessed be the LORD my strength, which teacheth my hands to war, and my fingers to fight.
Psalms 144:1

'89 FJ1200
'90 FJ1200
'78 XT500
'88 XT350

andyb

#3
July 06, 2013, 12:35:06 AM
A demonstratory walkthrough on fixing plastic would be brilliant....

FJmonkey

#4
July 06, 2013, 04:42:27 AM
The glass is not half full, it was engineered with a 2X safety factor.

'86 Ambulance - Bent frame, cracked case, due for an overhaul
'89 Stormy Blue - Suits my Dark Side

movenon

#5
July 06, 2013, 09:28:29 AM
Life isn't about having the best, but about making the best of what you have...

1990 FJ 1200

keand3

#6
July 06, 2013, 12:26:06 PM
Hey Mark, i too have those two tabs broken of.
Are they really necessary to have there? I guess at higher speeds but i have found mine fairing to work perfectly without.

Ken
Whant to check out my photos on the bike??
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rktmanfj

#7
July 06, 2013, 12:35:41 PM
Randy T
Indy

Blessed be the LORD my strength, which teacheth my hands to war, and my fingers to fight.
Psalms 144:1

'89 FJ1200
'90 FJ1200
'78 XT500
'88 XT350

racerrad8

#8
July 06, 2013, 12:38:52 PM
Randy - RPM

rktmanfj

#9
July 06, 2013, 12:49:21 PM
Quote from: racerrad8 on July 06, 2013, 12:38:52 PM
Don't forget to get these too...http://www.harborfreight.com/50-piece-plastic-welding-rods-41602.html

Randy - RPM

A shame they don't have a package with all ABS rods...

Randy T
Indy

Blessed be the LORD my strength, which teacheth my hands to war, and my fingers to fight.
Psalms 144:1

'89 FJ1200
'90 FJ1200
'78 XT500
'88 XT350

racerrad8

#10
July 06, 2013, 01:04:58 PM
Quote from: not a lib on July 06, 2013, 12:49:21 PM
A shame they don't have a package with all ABS rods...

True, it would be nice if they offered just the single filler rod types. But, it is good to have a variety.

I have found the front fairing to use the green rod and the chin fairing used either the white or grey.

I have not tried a fender yet...

So, you might have a time when you need all three.

Randy - RPM
Randy - RPM

movenon

#11
July 06, 2013, 01:08:57 PM
Quote from: not a lib on July 06, 2013, 12:35:41 PM
Quote from: movenon on July 06, 2013, 09:28:29 AM
Quote from: FJmonkey on July 06, 2013, 04:42:27 AM
The tool was similar to this. http://www.harborfreight.com/plastic-welding-kit-with-adjustable-temperature-96464.html

50 bucks with 20% off, ummm.........  :morning2:
George

That's it... gotta get one of those.



My son has access and uses a commercial version but he indicates that they use 2 part glues for the most part. I have used ABS cement and plastic rated epoxy with very good results. But I would like to have a inexpensive welder on hand at times for problems like Mark had with tabs or areas that might have more twisting or bending stress.  For 40 dollars this might be nice to have on hand.
George
Life isn't about having the best, but about making the best of what you have...

1990 FJ 1200

jscgdunn

#12
July 06, 2013, 01:14:52 PM

Great discussion....I have found that the plastic is the most expensive (the motor never breaks  or wears out, right?) and least rewarding parts to spend money on.  To keep the old girls looking good we all will need to learn a new skill...plastic welding. 

So far, I have had pretty good success gluing cracked tabs etc with plumbers ABS cement. 

Jeff

92 FJ1200 2008 ZX14 Forks, wheels, 2008 cbr 600 RR swingarm
92 FJ1200 2009 R1 Swinger, Forks, Wheels, 2013 CBR 1000 Shock
90 FJ 1200 (Son # 2), Stock
89 FJ 1200 Built from parts: (Brother bought it) mostly 92 parts inc. motor
84 FJ 1100 (Son #1), 89 forks wheels, blue spots

fj11.5

#13
July 06, 2013, 06:18:53 PM
Be nice and easy if you could plastic weld engine cases :biggrin:
unless you ride bikes, I mean really ride bikes, then you just won't get it

84 Fj1100  effie , with mods
( 88 ) Fj 1200  fairly standard , + blue spots
84 Fj1100 absolutely stock standard, now more stock , fitted with Fj12 twin system , no rusted headers for this felicity jayne

FJmonkey

#14
July 06, 2013, 06:51:57 PM
Quote from: jscgdunn on July 06, 2013, 01:14:52 PM

Great discussion....I have found that the plastic is the most expensive (the motor never breaks  or wears out, right?) and least rewarding parts to spend money on.  To keep the old girls looking good we all will need to learn a new skill...plastic welding. 

So far, I have had pretty good success gluing cracked tabs etc with plumbers ABS cement. 

Jeff

The RH turn indicator was repaired with ABS cement, fell off in my hand. It seemed to be more brittle than the ABS. All the other cracks I cemented are cracked again. I will be investing in a weld set up with a Tacking tip and weld tip, I already have the welding rod. I bought it here http://www.usplastic.com/catalog/item.aspx?itemid=22851
The glass is not half full, it was engineered with a 2X safety factor.

'86 Ambulance - Bent frame, cracked case, due for an overhaul
'89 Stormy Blue - Suits my Dark Side
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