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will these mirrors work??(just making sure before i buy)

Started by HARTLESS, June 25, 2013, 07:18:55 PM

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HARTLESS

http://www.ebay.com/itm/180917960430?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649#ht_1389wt_1084

just want to make sure before I buy them.. they are for a 2003 Honda CBR 954 RR but they look pretty similar to me and the price is nice.... please, don't bash me too hard, im a cheap ass (broke too) and I don't want to waste money.... :blum2:
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FJmonkey

Quote from: HARTLESS on June 25, 2013, 07:18:55 PM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/180917960430?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649#ht_1389wt_1084

just want to make sure before I buy them.. they are for a 2003 Honda CBR 954 RR but they look pretty similar to me and the price is nice.... please, don't bash me too hard, im a cheap ass (broke too) and I don't want to waste money.... :blum2:

The stalk looks too short from the pics. Look at these..

http://www.zillion8.com/motorcycle-mirror/honda-motorcycle-mirror/carbon-fiber-honda-cbr1000rr-mirror-2005-2006?gclid=CIPxvom6gLgCFdFDMgodYVMASw
The glass is not half full, it was engineered with a 2X safety factor.

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HARTLESS

hmmm. ok I see what you are saying, I didn't notice that.. haha, one of the mirrors I have on now(had two different mirrors when I bought it ) only has about a 3" stalk.... :nea:
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anson45

Nice looking mirrors, but with a 4.something inch stalk I'm still looking at my elbows. I did some measuring on "mirrors that work on other bikes" and determined I need 5.5 inches or longer. My LSL bar kit puts my grips 28 inches tip to tip. I measured the stalk on a pair of CBR250 mirrors and found the stalk to be about seven inches. They were $80 (per pair) plus tax at the dealer and $60. plus shipping online. Also found some EMGOs on DK in 5.5 inches for $60 pair ( I know they're Emgos), 2097211 (R), and 2097211 (L). Anyone tried any of these?
I'm thinking of going with the oem CBR250's, just can't do it until later in July. Oem Honda mirrors are not expensive like Yamaha.
Anson
p.s. "Mirrors on bikes that work" put the center of the mirrors in a straight line with the center of the grips, and of course, higher...
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Pat Conlon

Anson, you are on the right track...buy oem Honda mirrors. The quality of the glass and optics are vastly superior to the FleaBay Emgo crap. Vastly.  Pat
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ribbert

Quote from: Pat Conlon on June 29, 2013, 11:34:42 AM
Anson, you are on the right track...buy oem Honda mirrors. The quality of the glass and optics are vastly superior to the FleaBay Emgo crap. Vastly.  Pat

Pat's right, the genuine Honda no doubt have superior glazing and they are very expensive but I would defy anyone to pick the difference when using them on the road.
If you did buy the expensive ones I would still buy a set for less than $20 (not Emgo) and use them for a few weeks until you get used to the extra width. It's not much but it's enough to clip the mirrors on all sorts of things. I clipped a number of car mirrors in the traffic and my own cars in the drive until I got used to extra width.

Noel
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HARTLESS

Quote from: ribbert on June 30, 2013, 09:01:04 AM
Quote from: Pat Conlon on June 29, 2013, 11:34:42 AM
Anson, you are on the right track...buy oem Honda mirrors. The quality of the glass and optics are vastly superior to the FleaBay Emgo crap. Vastly.  Pat

Pat's right, the genuine Honda no doubt have superior glazing and they are very expensive but I would defy anyone to pick the difference when using them on the road.
If you did buy the expensive ones I would still buy a set for less than $20 (not Emgo) and use them for a few weeks until you get used to the extra width. It's not much but it's enough to clip the mirrors on all sorts of things. I clipped a number of car mirrors in the traffic and my own cars in the drive until I got used to extra width.

Noel
that's exactly what I was thinking....I don't do my hair in those mirrors....I look at them for a millisecond to see if there is a blob behind me and then I turn my head and actually look...
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ribbert

Quote from: HARTLESS on June 30, 2013, 06:36:24 PM

that's exactly what I was thinking....I don't do my hair in those mirrors....I look at them for a millisecond to see if there is a blob behind me and then I turn my head and actually look...


I actually rode around for a few weeks with one of the the new mirrors and one of the originals to make sure I was happy. If the mirrors I have were anything less than satisfactory I would ditch them immediately.
A critical inspection of the mirror shows the glazing is not top notch, but the difference cannot be seen on the road. I don't do my make up in these, I do that in the bathroom beforehand, and I'm happy with them.

When you are very familiar with your bike it's amazing how close you must regularly pass things when suddenly, and for the first time ever, you start clipping things with the slightly wider mirrors. I also tend to bump them walking past. I have now adjusted.

WARNING: there are cheap mirrors and there are cheap mirrors. I have a second bike with a set of cheap mirrors that are 100% useless, no brand.  I've never tried them but Emgos cop a lot flak here. I got mine from, and I think Monkey Mark also recommended, an on line shop called "zillion8". I can't find the link at the moment.

Not wanting to make a feature of them I got the plain black plastic ones and they were less than $20 posted and are better quality than you would expect for pocket change.

Noel

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FJmonkey

Quote from: ribbert on June 30, 2013, 08:11:55 PM
and I think Monkey Mark also recommended, an on line shop called "zillion8". I can't find the link at the moment.

FYI, I posted the link for reference of the stalk length. I have no idea what the quality is.... Not Monkey endorsed...
The glass is not half full, it was engineered with a 2X safety factor.

'86 Ambulance - Bent frame, cracked case, due for an overhaul
'89 Stormy Blue - Suits my Dark Side

aviationfred

I bought a set of these mirrors. They looked good and are inexpensive. I figured I would give them a try, and see if I can get a better view behind me.

http://www.zillion8.com/motorcycle-mirror/honda-motorcycle-mirror/carbon-fiber-honda-cbr1000rr-mirror-2005-2006?gclid=CIPxvom6gLgCFdFDMgodYVMASw

They arrived today. I am pretty happy with the over all quality. There is one issue that I have found so far. The mounting holes are too narrow and are about a half of a hole off on each end. I have attempted a quick fix and will knkow how it worked later tonight when I get home.

Here is the modified mount with the newly slotted holes and slotted counter bore.



I know they are not perfect for you machinist types, I am an electrician playing with big power tools with sharp edges... :yahoo: Yee Haw

Fred
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1989 FJ1200 Lazarus, the Streetfighter Project
1985 VF500F RC31 Interceptor

HARTLESS

Quote from: aviationfred on July 05, 2013, 09:45:31 PM
I bought a set of these mirrors. They looked good and are inexpensive. I figured I would give them a try, and see if I can get a better view behind me.

http://www.zillion8.com/motorcycle-mirror/honda-motorcycle-mirror/carbon-fiber-honda-cbr1000rr-mirror-2005-2006?gclid=CIPxvom6gLgCFdFDMgodYVMASw

They arrived today. I am pretty happy with the over all quality. There is one issue that I have found so far. The mounting holes are too narrow and are about a half of a hole off on each end. I have attempted a quick fix and will knkow how it worked later tonight when I get home.

Here is the modified mount with the newly slotted holes and slotted counter bore.



I know they are not perfect for you machinist types, I am an electrician playing with big power tools with sharp edges... :yahoo: Yee Haw

Fred
Do you not have the original fj mounts? It looks like you should be able to just slide the stalk into the fj mount...
STRIVE FOR PERFECTION, SETTLE FOR EXCELENCE

I ride HARTLESS or don't ride at all!

aviationfred

I don't have a set of OEM mirror mounts. I had to modify the CBR mounts. The file at the bottom shows that the OEM FJ mounts do work.

http://www.zillion8.com/motorcycle-mirror/honda-motorcycle-mirror/carbon-fiber-honda-cbr1000rr-mirror-2005-2006?gclid=CIPxvom6gLgCFdFDMgodYVMASw

Took the bike for a quick spin this morning to check on the rear view and clarity. In street traffic, they are wonderful and give a very large view to the rear. Practically no view of my arms or shoulders. On the freeway there is a bit of vibration. Possibly filling the mirrors with RTV may cure that. I may do that in the next week or so.

I give  :good2: 2 thumbs up on these mirrors.

Inexpensive price, great looks, very good view to the rear and if you don't have the OEM FJ mirror mounts, just a bit of machining of the mounts to make work.

Here is the modification link.

http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?topic=2027.0

Fred
I'm not the fastest FJ rider, I am 'half-fast', the fastest slow guy....

Current
2008 VFR800 RC46 Vtec
1996 VFR750 RC36/2
1990 FJ1300 (1297cc) Casper
1990 VFR750 RC36/1 Minnie
1989 FJ1200 Lazarus, the Streetfighter Project
1985 VF500F RC31 Interceptor

fintip

GAH?!?!!?! Why didn't anyone tell me this!  :mad:

I had won an auction for some OEM used great shape CBR mirrors, but then I saw that everyone uses the stock mirror bases and realized I don't have those (PO installed shitty emgo's), so I asked the guy to cancel the auction.

:dash2:

Could you post/point to a write up on the mods necessary to the CBR bases to get them to work?
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aviationfred

Quote from: aviationfred on July 05, 2013, 09:45:31 PM
I bought a set of these mirrors. They looked good and are inexpensive. I figured I would give them a try, and see if I can get a better view behind me.

http://www.zillion8.com/motorcycle-mirror/honda-motorcycle-mirror/carbon-fiber-honda-cbr1000rr-mirror-2005-2006?gclid=CIPxvom6gLgCFdFDMgodYVMASw

They arrived today. I am pretty happy with the over all quality. There is one issue that I have found so far. The mounting holes are too narrow and are about a half of a hole off on each end. I have attempted a quick fix and will knkow how it worked later tonight when I get home.

Here is the modified mount with the newly slotted holes and slotted counter bore.



I know they are not perfect for you machinist types, I am an electrician playing with big power tools with sharp edges... :yahoo: Yee Haw

Fred

Kyle,

I have access to a multi-axis drill press at work and I used a 1/4" end mill to slot the mounting holes, and a 3/8" end mill to slot the counter bore. I bead blasted the part and re-painted

Fred
I'm not the fastest FJ rider, I am 'half-fast', the fastest slow guy....

Current
2008 VFR800 RC46 Vtec
1996 VFR750 RC36/2
1990 FJ1300 (1297cc) Casper
1990 VFR750 RC36/1 Minnie
1989 FJ1200 Lazarus, the Streetfighter Project
1985 VF500F RC31 Interceptor