The World Is Rid Of The Milk Snatcher

[Tiger]

She was well known as a dictator by her cabinet ministers...which reminded me of this joke from that era:

Maggie and her ministers are sitting at a table in a posh restaurant being served lunch.

The meat has been served and the waitress says to Maggie, "should I serve the vegetables priminister"

to which Maggie replies, "No, let them serve themselves dear"!!! ...

John.

[Dan Filetti]

She was well known as a dictator by her cabinet ministers

Yeah, you want a push-over as the head of state.  Brilliant!

Dan

[ddlewis]

She was well known as a dictator by her cabinet ministers

Yeah, you want a push-over as the head of state.  Brilliant!

Dan

I don't have a super in depth knowledge of her, mostly drive by factoids.. but she did help Regan tighten the screws on the Russians (who btw coined 'the iron lady' ) leading to their collapse and she did beat back the unions.  Both good things in my book.

Really the organized labor litmus test is the most telling IMO.  If they hate you, you probably did right by the rest of the country..

[Zwartie]

She was well known as a dictator by her cabinet ministers

Yeah, you want a push-over as the head of state.  Brilliant!

Dan

I don't have a super in depth knowledge of her, mostly drive by factoids.. but she did help Regan tighten the screws on the Russians (who btw coined 'the iron lady' ) leading to their collapse and she did beat back the unions.  Both good things in my book.

Really the organized labor litmus test is the most telling IMO.  If they hate you, you probably did right by the rest of the country..

Due to our company struggling to meet it's financial targets last year they asked the employees to take a week of unpaid leave. The CEO of our parent company earned $106M last year in salary and bonuses. So, although I'm not a big fan of the unions, I'm not much of a fan for big business either. And it seems to me that the polititions on the left pander to the Unions whereas the polititions on the right pander to big business, or as they like to call themselves, the "job creators". Whatever happened to the middle?

Zwartie

[movenon]

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Due to our company struggling to meet it's financial targets last year they asked the employees to take a week of unpaid leave. The CEO of our parent company earned $106M last year in salary and bonuses. So, although I'm not a big fan of the unions, I'm not much of a fan for big business either. And it seems to me that the polititions on the left pander to the Unions whereas the polititions on the right pander to big business, or as they like to call themselves, the "job creators". Whatever happened to the middle?

Zwartie
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Geez, In the middle.... Why in the heck would you want to be reasonable....
George

[Klavdy]

She was well known as a dictator by her cabinet ministers

Yeah, you want a push-over as the head of state.  Brilliant!

Dan

I don't have a super in depth knowledge of her, mostly drive by factoids.. but she did help Regan tighten the screws on the Russians (who btw coined 'the iron lady' ) leading to their collapse and she did beat back the unions.  Both good things in my book.

Really the organised labour litmus test is the most telling IMO.  If they hate you, you probably did right by the rest of the country..

You're not a coal miners daughter,eh.

[CanDman]

You're not a coal miners daughter,eh.
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come on mate......bend the elbow and stop drinking with the flies!!!! No one hears a Galah...... we listen to you grizzle   on about how you have to make a crust......... not so long ago you pointed percy at the porcelain "hole diggers" who promoted you to colonel Kurtz out there in Back o'Bourke. Being a champion whinge takes years of practise.....give the other yobbos a chance to catch up....... would ya ??  


canyabberyakka2man

[Tiger]

Yeah, you want a push-over as the head of state.  Brilliant!

Dan

Hmmmm, read through but couldn't find any mention of that Dan. However, no I wouldn't...

Dan, unless you lived under this woman's rule, you, like many, have absolutely no idea what life was like in the U K during her reign. The rich got waaaay richer and the poor made poorer due to industry closures. Each coal mine or ship yard, etc, that closed caused a ripple effect throughout a region. Directly as of plants closing, others, such as suppliers down to the corner store, closed and put more people out of work. Whole communities became major unemployment area's overnight. I agree that badly run, under achieving companies needed to change up or close...even state run industries. However, the cost, economicly and socially was devastating to whole regions of the U K.
Yes Thatcher certainly looked after her own...the business people who funneled funds in to the Conservative party...and she happily f****d the rest of us!!!
So please, stop the condescending rhetoric as you have no idea what so ever of the pain and suffering many of us went through because of her!!!
I'm not sad at her passing and certainly would not shed a tear for her. However, I do not agree with some of the nastiness that's coming out about her death.

John.

[Dan Filetti]

Smaller governments are better than bigger governments.  Maggie made the government smaller.

Unions had their purpose, but more recently, have become the problem -I know of what I speak here.  Maggie broke the unions.

She was ruthless, and pissed off a lot of Brits, clearly yourself included.  But no matter what, I do not think it's right to dance on anyone's grave.  It's distasteful and beneath anyone that considers themselves an adult. 

When Bin Laden was killed, I did not celebrate it, and I felt ashamed of the monkeys in NY and elsewhere that openly celebrated in the streets.  It appeared to me a bit too much like what you might see in down-town Tehran proudly beamed throughout the middle east on al jazeera.  I did not mourn the man's death, he needed killing, but I certainly did not celebrate it. 

My god people, she is DEAD.  If you can not say something nice, stuff a sock in it, or prove yourself an idiot undeserving of respect from fellow adults.

Dan

[ribbert]

Yes Thatcher certainly looked after her own...the business people who funneled funds in to the Conservative party...and she happily f****d the rest of us!!!
John.

John, the notion that the leader of political party in a modern democracy would screw the entire country just to line the pockets of the few that contributed financially is hard to swallow.

With decades to evaluate her reforms even some of her detractors at the time now begrudgingly admit it needed to be done.

Why not direct some of you bitterness to the governments that allowed things to get that bad rather than at the one that fixed it.


Better a winning preemptive strike on the economy with casualties than sitting around in you comfort zone waiting for complete annihilation.

Noel

[The General]

Smaller governments are better than bigger governments.  Maggie made the government smaller.

Unions had their purpose, but more recently, have become the problem -I know of what I speak here.  Maggie broke the unions.

She was ruthless, and pissed off a lot of Brits, clearly yourself included.  But no matter what, I do not think it's right to dance on anyone's grave.  It's distasteful and beneath anyone that considers themselves an adult. 

When Bin Laden was killed, I did not celebrate it, and I felt ashamed of the monkeys in NY and elsewhere that openly celebrated in the streets.  It appeared to me a bit too much like what you might see in down-town Tehran proudly beamed throughout the middle east on al jazeera.  I did not mourn the man's death, he needed killing, but I certainly did not celebrate it. 

My god people, she is DEAD.  If you can not say something nice, stuff a sock in it, or prove yourself an idiot undeserving of respect from fellow adults.

Dan

+1

[rktmanfj]

Smaller governments are better than bigger governments.  Maggie made the government smaller.

Unions had their purpose, but more recently, have become the problem -I know of what I speak here.  Maggie broke the unions.

She was ruthless, and pissed off a lot of Brits, clearly yourself included.  But no matter what, I do not think it's right to dance on anyone's grave.  It's distasteful and beneath anyone that considers themselves an adult. 

When Bin Laden was killed, I did not celebrate it, and I felt ashamed of the monkeys in NY and elsewhere that openly celebrated in the streets.  It appeared to me a bit too much like what you might see in down-town Tehran proudly beamed throughout the middle east on al jazeera.  I did not mourn the man's death, he needed killing, but I certainly did not celebrate it. 

My god people, she is DEAD.  If you can not say something nice, stuff a sock in it, or prove yourself an idiot undeserving of respect from fellow adults.

Dan

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[bugboy]

We will have our turn soon enough (I hope). Since we are rapidly turning into an unsustainable welfare state, someone will need to come along and re-direct the country and a lot of people will have some hard times.  It's either that, or we all go down the tubes when everything crashes.

We need a Margaret Thatcher! Barry and Hillary and their type sure as hell aren't going to get us turned around.

[Dan Filetti]

We will have our turn soon enough (I hope).

We need a Margaret Thatcher! Barry and Hillary and their type sure as hell aren't going to get us turned around.

I agree.  But I have become fairly disillusioned in that I'm not sure we'll ever get another true cost cutter.  Whereas the dems have their social welfare/ give everyone a hug, the republicans are not much better with their military industrial complex spending. Either way we spend money we do not have and the debt goes up.

All this nonsense about the sequester?  It's a reduction of some the increases over last year's spending (we're still, even with the sequester, spending more than last year!!) And this was a battle-royal.  We are wending our way towards being a Greece, on a global scale, and I do not see much hope that the idiots in Washington get it. 

Take a look at this:  http://www.usdebtclock.org/

See that we are accumulating debt at ~$25K per second // $1.5 million per minute // $90 million per hour // $2.1 billion per day... and this does not include the $121 trillion in unfunded liabilities, state pensions etc etc.   

It's maddening, and we go on and on about the impact of the sequester??!! 

I was at a conference where Robert Riech spoke as a key note speaker.  He actually said the our current debt (as a percentage of GDP) is no gig deal 'per se'!! This by the way, was same shit Terry, from this list used to say.  Riech's recommendation was to spend more!  Government spending was the answer you see!  I wanted to yell at him, in front of the other 1,000 people I was in the room with, but I refrained.  These folks are died in the wool. 

The fact is that the CBO is now projecting the US Debt (again, NOT including the unfunded liabilities!) as a percentage of GDP will reach 199% in less than 25 years -we're currently at about 105% and rising quickly).  As reference, the highest Greece ever got was 170%

Maggie had the clarity to see Britain was heading in the wrong direction, and took bold steps to correct it. None of our leaders seems to be able to see that -amazingly. Many of those affected by Maggies corrections, hated her for it.  But Britain would, from where I sit, be in ~Greece's place now, were it not for her. Others can and will certainly, speculate otherwise.   

I worry about the quality of life my children will have, I truly do.

Dan     

[craigo]

I see the same symptoms of the crash of 2008 coming again. Stock market is inflated to record highs, banks loosening up lending requirements allowing loans to unqualified people, housing prices are starting to skyrocket. (at least here in SoCal) But yet, the economy is listless. Job reports are stagnant and inflation is dramatically outpacing income.  

If something doesn't happen and soon, there will be another bubble just like in 2008. Only this time, the Government will not have the funds to support another TARP. Those that are too big to fail, will fail this time as there will be no funds to prop them back up again.

I pray for our country.  

CraigO