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Recommended Chain Type?

Started by PeteGLH, March 20, 2013, 09:37:37 PM

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oldktmdude

Quote from: movenon on March 21, 2013, 10:34:35 PM
Quote from: oldktmdude on March 21, 2013, 10:08:47 PM
    I bought a new EK ZZZ about a month ago and it came supplied with the rivet link. Be aware that you require a chain riveting tool to install this rivet link. It can be done with 2 hammers but I would not take the risk using this method.    Pete.     

Did the link come with the spacers/shims to prevent over tightening the link when riveted ?

If I didn't have the tool then I would rivet it off the bike using a vise or iron to back it up while riveting with a hammer and punch. If it comes with shims this helps a lot to avoid over riveting the link. You would have to remove the rear wheel and disconnect the swing arm to install. That's really not that difficult. (or maybe I have had to much experience doing that that....).

I haven't ordered it yet, but I am planning on the same chain. Its been well over 25 years since I have had to deal with a chain.
George
The chain did not come with shims or spacers. I measured the assembled width of the new chain with Vernier callipers and pressed the master link on to the same dimension. There are some good instructional videos on Youtube to refresh your memory. Worth a look.    Pete.
1985 FJ1100 x2 (1 sold)
2009 TDM 900
1980 Kawasaki Z1R Mk11 (sold and still regretting it)
1979 Kawasaki Z650 (sold)
1985 Suzuki GSXR 400 x2 (next project)
2001 KTM 520 exc (sold)
2004 GasGas Ec300
1981 Honda CB 900 F (sold)
1989 Kawasaki GPX 600 Adventure

SlowOldGuy

If you need a riveting tool, check out the Stockton unit that Cycle Gear carries. 
Probably not the absolute "best" tool (that would be the $150 DID tools).  But you'll only use it a few times and it's usually priced well.

DavidR.

racerman_27410

Quote from: PeteGLH on March 21, 2013, 09:07:26 PM
Thanks for the input fellas.  

Will be going the EK ZZZ route for sure.  Since it will be my first time purchasing a chain (and I will be purchasing online) it isn't always clear if the rivet link is included with the chain...  Can you guys advise?  Just trying to get everything ready for the install and not get stalled up with what I like to call:  surprises.

Thanks for the feedback,  much appreciated.

my ZZZ chain came with nice install spacers so you dont press the side on too far and crush the o-rings....the EK ZZZ is the only chain i've used that comes with these..... really makes installing the master link a no brainer. :good2:

KOokaloo!

andyb

Other EK rivet links come with the spacers.  At least, some of them do, and they're really helpful to get things exactly right.

movenon

Quote from: andyb on March 22, 2013, 12:40:41 PM
Other EK rivet links come with the spacers.  At least, some of them do, and they're really helpful to get things exactly right.

That's one of the reasons I am going with the EK over the DID. The shims/spacers take a lot of the guess work out of it. Just about imposable to end up with to tight of a connection.
George
Life isn't about having the best, but about making the best of what you have...

1990 FJ 1200

FJSpringy

put on a RK XW-Ring-530GXW this morning, riveted with riveting tool  (popcorn)





funny morning, took the hugger off and put the old ali chain guard on didn't need to  :mad:,  forgot the bobbins needed them  :ireful:.

had a chat with my mechanic mate   :yahoo: took 2 hours to do a 10 min job bloody good morning all round.

geez I am getting lazy  :dance2: :dance2: :dance2:

I have kleptomania,
but when it gets bad,
I take something for it.

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92 FJ1200

NJona86FJ

i just fitted mine ... same as yours fj springy... got it right then dropped it off the rear cog, using a pin punch or centre pop ( with a good correctly sharpened point... yes im fussy.... maybe) and the centrte stand as a base to "tap" against and a hammer. works. but then again i have run a chain with a joining plate and clip, lost the clip so used 2 circlips ( i dont recommend this!!! they get a bit "thin")
Some people's idea of free speech is that they are free to say what they like,but if anyone says anything back that is an outrage.
W. Churchill

fj11.5

hey fjspringy,, just wondering what swingarm you've  fitted, and what year your fj is, , im guessing its 88 or later,  im hopeing to fit an xjr arm but will need to have some welding done
unless you ride bikes, I mean really ride bikes, then you just won't get it

84 Fj1100  effie , with mods
( 88 ) Fj 1200  fairly standard , + blue spots
84 Fj1100 absolutely stock standard, now more stock , fitted with Fj12 twin system , no rusted headers for this felicity jayne

FJSpringy

Quote from: fj11.5 on March 23, 2013, 05:02:02 AM
hey fjspringy,, just wondering what swingarm you've  fitted, and what year your fj is, , im guessing its 88 or later,  im hopeing to fit an xjr arm but will need to have some welding done


It's a 92 with a T/Ace conversion been running it like this for nearly 10 years.
I have kleptomania,
but when it gets bad,
I take something for it.

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92 FJ1200

fj11.5

awesome, thanks mate, , any problems width wise at the mountin points
unless you ride bikes, I mean really ride bikes, then you just won't get it

84 Fj1100  effie , with mods
( 88 ) Fj 1200  fairly standard , + blue spots
84 Fj1100 absolutely stock standard, now more stock , fitted with Fj12 twin system , no rusted headers for this felicity jayne

FJSpringy

 :scratch_one-s_head:
Quote from: fj11.5 on March 23, 2013, 05:34:10 AM
awesome, thanks mate, , any problems width wise at the mountin points

You do need to machine bits off, from memory and it been a long time Marc Rittner's instructions are the best, just wish I had seen them when I did mine all those years back.

I started off talking to Barry Edwards and worked it out from there, very happy with it.
I have kleptomania,
but when it gets bad,
I take something for it.

********************

92 FJ1200

fj11.5

thank you, ill check out marks info,, will need to have mounts welded on for the shock linkage, ,unless i can find another way to do it,  as the 84,s dont have the dog bone style linkages
unless you ride bikes, I mean really ride bikes, then you just won't get it

84 Fj1100  effie , with mods
( 88 ) Fj 1200  fairly standard , + blue spots
84 Fj1100 absolutely stock standard, now more stock , fitted with Fj12 twin system , no rusted headers for this felicity jayne

ribbert

Quote from: NJona86FJ on March 23, 2013, 04:39:47 AM
i just fitted mine ... same as yours fj springy... got it right then dropped it off the rear cog, using a pin punch or centre pop ( with a good correctly sharpened point... yes im fussy.... maybe) and the centrte stand as a base to "tap" against and a hammer. works. but then again i have run a chain with a joining plate and clip, lost the clip so used 2 circlips ( i dont recommend this!!! they get a bit "thin")

I have tried every bush mechanics trick for joining links without a tool. The only one I have found satisfactory, that is, a perfectly uniform spread of the pin, is to stick a ball bearing onto the end of the pin with a bit of grease and then hit it with a hammer. Last time I used the one from the rear foot peg, it's the perfect size.

The hardest part is getting something solid and heavy enough behind it with no spring in it. I have an old artillery shell that I can barely lift that I use as a mini anvil that is perfect, it's about 5" in diameter.

In my view the centre stand is too springy.

Noel
"Tell a wise man something he doesn't know and he'll thank you, tell a fool something he doesn't know and he'll abuse you"

Steve_in_Florida

Quote from: ribbert on March 23, 2013, 08:29:17 AM

I have an old artillery shell that I can barely lift that I use as a mini anvil that is perfect...



Oh, GREAT! I can just see it now:

, then: 


`90 FJ-1200
`92 FJ-1200

IBA # 54823

PeteGLH

Thanks for all the great info guys.   I definately do plan on getting the tool,  I don't think the FJ will be the only bike I will ever own (but for some reason,  I think I will own it for a lonnnnng time.)  I might need it for future projects :)

Looking forward to the kook,  another 3 weeks before I get her out and running,  can't wait.