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Started by CanDman, November 14, 2012, 06:15:01 AM

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CanDman

It is time to do the turbo.....does anyone have any suggestions as to what set of carbs would be recommended for this application. I have heard that the HSR42 Mikuni's are ideal (for a draw through set up) but I am designing a blow through system so I will be looking for a rack. Racerman let me know that the Keihin's are awesome but he said that they are without a choke which might create some problems being in a cooler climate as well as the extra load with the turbine spooling off the exhaust. Any suggestions are welcome.
CanDman
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weymouth399

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turbocamino

I highly recommend the mikuni...i had tried the s&s and it was ok at full throttle, but stumbled some through the midrange ....tried the lectron but  wouldnt idle quite right (for me)...I spoke to Terry Kizer at MR. Turbo,who set up a 42 Mikuni and it was almost perfect out of the box...best    480.oo (!) i spent to date. I think i had to raise the needle some for my application. As for pressurizing a set of stock carbs... be prepared for a lot of sorting out...i know some have been successful but it will take knowledge and time and may never be as good as the mikuni,in my opinion.
89 FJ1200 saphire.blu owned 8-9 years.  By far the most satisfying of them all. Constant tinkering got me the best bike you could ever want.

Pat Conlon

Mikuni makes many different models. Take a look at the TMR roller flat slides, which have a choke.

Speaking of choke, wait 'till you see the price.....

With the boost pressure pushing against the slides, I would make sure they have rollers so they open and close smoothly until the point where your BOV opens.
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CanDman

Quote from: weymouth399 on November 14, 2012, 07:13:30 AM
:cray: :shok: :diablo: :dash1: :mad: :ireful: :wacko2: :bad:

Bob W

:praising: :drinks: :lol: :dance2: :mail1: :blush: :good: (popcorn) :rofl: :bye:

Paul seems to think that my problems are carb and fuel related...so instead of throwing money at a new FJ carb.....I might as well move forward with the my original plan. I have almost everything part for the mod so it only makes sense to move forward I know you don't approve mom... :ireful:....but I promise to let you ride her at the rally next year...and I have a feeling your going to get off on CanD with a permanent grin....lol
Kev
Never regret your choices in life ! There is no way to go back to do it again and compare. Make the most and do your best with every decision you make

CanDman

Goet....thx for the popcon
TC.........thx for your input
and Felix....always good to hear from you..........

I would love to grab a set of HSR42's....but I read on Mr. Turbo's web site that that particular Carb was ideal for a draw through set up.....I am not sure how to use it with the Blow through set I am designing....I will look at it again but it looks like a single carb rather then a rack...unless I am missing something. I have a plenum that will send the cooled air into the carbs....It has 4 ports ......one each carb........I am mounting the turbo directly in front of the exaust ports. I actually should start a thread in the FJ PROJECT WRITE UPS section........and do that.....I will do some research.... :mail1:
Kev     
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weymouth399

Quote from: CanDman on November 14, 2012, 05:19:44 PM
Quote from: weymouth399 on November 14, 2012, 07:13:30 AM
:cray: :shok: :diablo: :dash1: :mad: :ireful: :wacko2: :bad:

Bob W

:praising: :drinks: :lol: :dance2: :mail1: :blush: :good: (popcorn) :rofl: :bye:

Paul seems to think that my problems are carb and fuel related...so instead of throwing money at a new FJ carb.....I might as well move forward with the my original plan. I have almost everything part for the mod so it only makes sense to move forward I know you don't approve mom... :ireful:....but I promise to let you ride her at the rally next year...and I have a feeling your going to get off on CanD with a permanent grin....lol
Kev

There's nothing wrong with your carbs that a cleaning wouldn't fix. :yes: And 4 choke plungers, bad PO.
I hope it all works for ya, keep me informed, need anything you know how to get ahold of me.
She's a good slut, be good to her. :biggrin:

Bob W
84 FJ 1100
86 FJ1200
89 FJ1200
5  FJ POWERED race cars
76 LB80 Chappy
93 KX500 ice for sale
00 KX500 ice/dirt
04 KDX220 dirt for sale
04 KX500 ice
08 KLX450 ice/road
72 CT90x2 for sale

CanDman

Quote from: weymouth399 on November 15, 2012, 11:06:41 AM
Quote from: CanDman on November 14, 2012, 05:19:44 PM
Quote from: weymouth399 on November 14, 2012, 07:13:30 AM
:cray: :shok: :diablo: :dash1: :mad: :ireful: :wacko2: :bad:

Bob W

:praising: :drinks: :lol: :dance2: :mail1: :blush: :good: (popcorn) :rofl: :bye:

Paul seems to think that my problems are carb and fuel related...so instead of throwing money at a new FJ carb.....I might as well move forward with the my original plan. I have almost everything part for the mod so it only makes sense to move forward I know you don't approve mom... :ireful:....but I promise to let you ride her at the rally next year...and I have a feeling your going to get off on CanD with a permanent grin....lol
Kev

There's nothing wrong with your carbs that a cleaning wouldn't fix. :yes: And 4 choke plungers, bad PO.
I hope it all works for ya, keep me informed, need anything you know how to get ahold of me.
She's a good slut, be good to her. :biggrin:

Bob W

  you know I love my little dirty girl....but we had a chat some 4 yrs ago....and she's been patient with me..... she made me promise to give her a major makeover.....including a little extra boost....and I am determined to keep my word. At here age she doesn't like the young punks poken fun at her....so I committed myself to giving her back her pride and her glory.......and she is busting at the prospect of having some extra legs to kick some Kawasaki and Suzuki butt !!!! Besides ....once the mod is done.......it's not going to be easy to see anything different.....she begged me to keep her looking like an "old sleeper".......... and as matter of fact....she did ask specifically for you......and for your wonderful touch.....that girl loves you.........almost as much as me........ALMOST....NOT QUITE ......LOL   :drinks:
CanD's man 
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RACER111V

Don't even bother with carbs if your going to drive this thing on the street. Step up to EFI before you spend any money on carbs. My Civic turbo daily driver (when on four wheels) drives like a kitten and gets 35+ mpg , runs cool , and does everything a stock civic does. When on boost it's an animal. I do all the work myself, including the tuning. I've seen several carb bikes converted to EFI, both turbo and NA, including a 2 stroke Honda cr500 road race bike. After working with the civic, I wouldn't even consider doing a carbed turbo.

CanDman

Quote from: RACER111V on November 15, 2012, 08:40:37 PM
Don't even bother with carbs if your going to drive this thing on the street. Step up to EFI before you spend any money on carbs. My Civic turbo daily driver (when on four wheels) drives like a kitten and gets 35+ mpg , runs cool , and does everything a stock civic does. When on boost it's an animal. I do all the work myself, including the tuning. I've seen several carb bikes converted to EFI, both turbo and NA, including a 2 stroke Honda cr500 road race bike. After working with the civic, I wouldn't even consider doing a carbed turbo.

Hey Glen...nice to hear your voice...you are going to laugh....but 2 yrs ago when debating which way to go...I grabbed a throttle body from an 07 fjr that looks like it would work....I also grabbed a Bazzaz Z-F1 fuel injection and traction control systems to go with.....I was very serious about going with EFI but I couldn't find anyone who wanted to tackle it........I have everything for this project.....even a surge tank from an 82 seca turbo...what's cool about this tank is that it has a secondary fuel supply that feeds into the top of the surge tank when boost kicks in....it is activated by a pressure valve.....there is also a drain plug for the excess fuel that collects. There is a built in relief valve as well as a reed valve..... I was seriously thinking about installing a secondary fuel tank (a very small 2 litre tank) filled with 110 octane that could be shot into the surge tank when necessary.  I would deffinitely be intersted in discussing this further with you.....but Pleeeeease don't tell....you know who........ :ireful: :mad: :diablo:........ lol
PM me and lets talk .....
Kev  
Never regret your choices in life ! There is no way to go back to do it again and compare. Make the most and do your best with every decision you make

nealmeal2000

just sayin i have my fj running pretty decent with megasquirt turbo and its done 114 eight mile with a pretty much broken off turbo header-i can guide you thru the process if you want to give it a try-sherwood

CanDman

Wow I must say I am overwhelmed by everyone's interest.....I am certainly venturing into uncharted waters.....but I do have a concept and have been malling things over and over in my head. The biggest hurdle for me was to keep CanD's sexy stock look......the last thing I want to do is turn her into the bride of Frankenstein ......with pipes and valves and hoses coming out everywhere......this was the primary reason for going with a Blow through set up as opposed to a draw through(plus I don't want to cook my nuts!!!!!!!). I am designing the system to start right in front of the exhaust ports....where the turbo will be mounted. I like it there because I want to minimize turbo lag but I also want to utilize the oil cooler's position directly above it so a scavenge pump will not be required. Positioning the turbo (a GARRETT T-25 /a spare from my 300zx tt)  here also will allow me to install a small 10.5"x 7.25" mini radiator right below it between the frame. The radiator will send coolant through to a small cylindrical liquid intercooler I am planning to mount above the tire hugger right under the seat(tons of room). The intercooler would fire the compressed air directly into the plenum or surge tank which are lined up with the throttle bodies or carbs(which ever I go with). Q. How are you going to run your pipe through to where your battery is sitting? Good question !!!. The answer ... I am planning to take out the tool kit and re locate a new racing battery to that location.....was even going to use the rubber strap. :mail1:....I just need to extend the terminal wires to the rear.....The intake on the compressor would have a down pipe with a K&N filter....I was planning to situate at the hole of the lower chin cowling with a screen. Another down pipe was going to direct the exhaust from the turbo to the 2 mufflers I have on the bike. And the compressed air was going to be directed down under the bike and then back up through the frame (split pipes....one on either side) and along the sides towards the tail and into the intercooler...hidden under the seat.....this is the design I have and I am hoping to get started on it soon. I really appreciate all the interest and help.....and will start posting everything once I decide which way to go and once the project gets started. All pointers and tips are greatly appreciated.....thank you !!!
CanDman              
Never regret your choices in life ! There is no way to go back to do it again and compare. Make the most and do your best with every decision you make

Havoc

I'm building an EFI Turbo FJ at the moment, I have a proper read when I've a bit more time but happy to pass on any details I have setting the plot up, which will be Xmas time.
Dangerous Brothers Racing

CanDman

Quote from: Havoc on November 16, 2012, 04:38:26 AM
I'm building an EFI Turbo FJ at the moment, I have a proper read when I've a bit more time but happy to pass on any details I have setting the plot up, which will be Xmas time.

Then I'll be creating Havoc 2......... :mail1: That sounds awesome.....bro....I'll look forward to it..........well at least I'm not the only Lune out there......... :mocking:
Kev
Never regret your choices in life ! There is no way to go back to do it again and compare. Make the most and do your best with every decision you make