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84 damper rods

Started by Ham, October 19, 2012, 05:31:16 AM

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Ham

the top half of my anti dive units have been blanked off by previous owner,I changed out leaking fork seals and found the 3 washers still in forks and the damper rods unmoded, should I ditch the washers and drill out the damper rods with 4 5/16 holes as per mods Iv read in forum.

FJmonkey

Quote from: Ham on October 19, 2012, 05:31:16 AM
the top half of my anti dive units have been blanked off by previous owner,I changed out leaking fork seals and found the 3 washers still in forks and the damper rods unmoded, should I ditch the washers and drill out the damper rods with 4 5/16 holes as per mods Iv read in forum.
The current mod for FJ forks is the RaceTech cartridge or the RPM valve. No modification to the damper unit in the forks, just cut the "D" rod short as the new valve does all the work. I have the RPM valves in and they are fantastic. The front is really planted now in the corners. If you are into modding your FJ then search this site for lots of really good ideas. There is so much you do to make your FJ better.
The glass is not half full, it was engineered with a 2X safety factor.

'86 Ambulance - Bent frame, cracked case, due for an overhaul
'89 Stormy Blue - Suits my Dark Side

FJmonkey

Welcome to the club, swing over to the introduction section and post an intro.
The glass is not half full, it was engineered with a 2X safety factor.

'86 Ambulance - Bent frame, cracked case, due for an overhaul
'89 Stormy Blue - Suits my Dark Side

SlowOldGuy

RaceTech valves will require that you drill the extra 4 holes in the damper rod.  If you've got them out, go ahead and do the drilling just in case. 

DavidR.

FJmonkey

Quote from: SlowOldGuy on October 19, 2012, 01:45:52 PM
RaceTech valves will require that you drill the extra 4 holes in the damper rod.  If you've got them out, go ahead and do the drilling just in case. 

DavidR.
What if you don't have any valves in? Will this kill the damping?
The glass is not half full, it was engineered with a 2X safety factor.

'86 Ambulance - Bent frame, cracked case, due for an overhaul
'89 Stormy Blue - Suits my Dark Side

Ham

David, Im saving my $ for new race tech springs and rpm valves,so I will drill out the damper rod and, not refitt the 2 wave washers and the flat washer as I need FJ back on the road. Will this work OK, many thanks.

FJmonkey

Quote from: Ham on October 19, 2012, 06:32:26 PM
David, Im saving my $ for new race tech springs and rpm valves,so I will drill out the damper rod and, not refitt the 2 wave washers and the flat washer as I need FJ back on the road. Will this work OK, many thanks.
Ham, if your forks are still stock and you are not adding fork valves then don't drill them. Stock damping may suck but until you install an alternative control device, stock is better than none.  :ireful: :ireful: :ireful: :ireful: :ireful:

Let me be very clear on this!!! Unless you are installing an additional control device like the RaceTech or RPM valve then drilling your damper out will eliminate all damping your forks have. Like removing all the fork oil, springs only.... Not safe to ride on....  :diablo: :diablo: :diablo: :diablo: :diablo: :diablo: :diablo: :diablo:
The glass is not half full, it was engineered with a 2X safety factor.

'86 Ambulance - Bent frame, cracked case, due for an overhaul
'89 Stormy Blue - Suits my Dark Side

Ham

Thanks Monkey, the original info I got was off that fj owners club document (early fj fork upgrade 84to 88) by using post 88 fork bottoms for 17 in wheel upgrade. It stated you can use pre 88 damper rod in this set up and the 3 washers arnt used but reinstall the tapered spindle. It also stated that dlilling out the early damper rod compensates for no anti dive circut so maybe that is a misprint in that document.

SlowOldGuy

Dammit Mark, slow down and understand what the guy's asking!

Drilling the damper rods, which is adding extra holes above the "step" that the tapered spindle rests on, will ONLY defeat the anti-dive units.  It will not affect the fixed compression or adjustable rebound damping.

Ham, what you quote above is correct.  Drill it and do not use the washers.

DavidR.

FJmonkey

Quote from: SlowOldGuy on October 19, 2012, 09:32:01 PM
Dammit Mark, slow down and understand what the guy's asking!

Drilling the damper rods, which is adding extra holes above the "step" that the tapered spindle rests on, will ONLY defeat the anti-dive units.  It will not affect the fixed compression or adjustable rebound damping.

Ham, what you quote above is correct.  Drill it and do not use the washers.

DavidR.
Thank you for the correction David, I was thinking that the holes were getting drilled below. Sorry for the alarm...  :sorry: As you were Ham.
The glass is not half full, it was engineered with a 2X safety factor.

'86 Ambulance - Bent frame, cracked case, due for an overhaul
'89 Stormy Blue - Suits my Dark Side

fj11.5

have a spare set if damper rods left over from my 84 forks, is it worth the effort drilling the extra holes ,  , or would it just be something else to tinker with on a rainy day , , the ambulance could do with rpm valves but I'm not going to spend money on her , , when effie neeeeeds them  :yes:
unless you ride bikes, I mean really ride bikes, then you just won't get it

84 Fj1100  effie , with mods
( 88 ) Fj 1200  fairly standard , + blue spots
84 Fj1100 absolutely stock standard, now more stock , fitted with Fj12 twin system , no rusted headers for this felicity jayne