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Need a new drive chain.....

Started by DB Cooper, September 20, 2012, 05:33:58 PM

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DB Cooper

So the search function isn't doing so well for me either.
I'm looking for opinions on a drive chain. I don't want to spend a fortune, but I know the FJ is hard on chains.
I'm not particularly hard on the bike, and I get in about 8000 - 10,000 kms per year.
Thanks

Kevin
I remember when sex was safe and skydiving was dangerous.

Pat Conlon

Short answer: DID 530ZVMX or EK 530ZZZ ......depending on the oil you are running in your engine.... (popcorn)
1) Free Owners Manual download: https://tinyurl.com/fmsz7hk9
2) Don't store your FJ with E10 fuel https://tinyurl.com/3cjrfct5
3) Replace your old stock rubber brake lines.
4) Important items for the '84-87 FJ's:
Safety wire: https://tinyurl.com/99zp8ufh
Fuel line: https://tinyurl.com/bdff9bf3

FJmonkey

The cost of the chain might seem expensive, till you factor in the long life when properly maintained, not breaking and stranding you somewhere or busting the left side case. And if you really are easy on chains then you will hardly need to adjust it.
The glass is not half full, it was engineered with a 2X safety factor.

'86 Ambulance - Bent frame, cracked case, due for an overhaul
'89 Stormy Blue - Suits my Dark Side

DB Cooper

OK Pat, it's been a long day. But here goes...
" you're just yanking my chain". Best I could do for now.
I've used DID in the past, so I guess I'll stick with them.
Just a quick search on the web, they ring in at about 200.00.
Not quite as bad as I thought.
Kevin
I remember when sex was safe and skydiving was dangerous.

Hemi Bob

Quote from: Pat Conlon on September 20, 2012, 05:40:56 PM
Short answer: DID 530ZVMX or EK 530ZZZ ......depending on the oil you are running in your engine.... (popcorn)

Hi Pat
Ive  never heard that before could you please help me
understand how engine oil relates to which chain to buy.
I'm all so  needing to replace  my chain bought one a few years back for $75.00
you wouldn't believe how tight  it is in some spots and way loose in others. you get what you pay for!
the bike is an  85 1157cc I'm the origanal owner with 45,000km I run 10w40 Motul I don't really abuse it
but once in awhile it needs a good beating (just for fun)and it likes it.

Robert
Robert
1985 FJ1100  Original Owner
1986 FJ1200  X Drag Bike
1981 Suzuki GS 1100ex
1981 Suzuki GS 750ex

FJmonkey

Quote from: Hemi Bob on September 20, 2012, 08:39:29 PM
Ive  never heard that before could you please help me
understand how engine oil relates to which chain to buy.
I'm all so  needing to replace  my chain bought one a few years back for $75.00

Pat, you lost the poor noob on chain selection by throwing the the in the oil controversy. Bad Pat

Pat means well and having meet him will back that up....

But $75 for a chain is old school now...... Unless you can steel it....
The glass is not half full, it was engineered with a 2X safety factor.

'86 Ambulance - Bent frame, cracked case, due for an overhaul
'89 Stormy Blue - Suits my Dark Side

Hemi Bob

FJMonkey I'm not sure where the '' poor noob '' came from I thought it was ask
a question if you don't know hopefully some one Will help explain.
from where I came from if you don't have anythink good to say shut the fuck up

Robert
Robert
1985 FJ1100  Original Owner
1986 FJ1200  X Drag Bike
1981 Suzuki GS 1100ex
1981 Suzuki GS 750ex

Arnie


Dan Filetti

Quote from: Hemi Bob on September 20, 2012, 08:39:29 PM
Ive  never heard that before could you please help me
understand how engine oil relates to which chain to buy.

Robert,

He was kidding.

Cheers,

Dan
Live hardy, or go home. 

Pat Conlon

Robert, everyone is aware that in engines running a full Ester based synthetic oil, all the extra horsepower and torque transmitted thru the drive chain to the rear wheel requires a higher tensile strength chain, than conventional dino based engine oils which rob horsepower. (popcorn)
1) Free Owners Manual download: https://tinyurl.com/fmsz7hk9
2) Don't store your FJ with E10 fuel https://tinyurl.com/3cjrfct5
3) Replace your old stock rubber brake lines.
4) Important items for the '84-87 FJ's:
Safety wire: https://tinyurl.com/99zp8ufh
Fuel line: https://tinyurl.com/bdff9bf3

Hemi Bob

Quote from: Pat Conlon on September 20, 2012, 10:51:58 PM
Robert, everyone is aware that in engines running a full Ester based synthetic oil, all the extra horsepower and torque transmitted Thur the drive chain to the rear wheel requires a higher tensile strength chain, than conventional dino based engine oils which rob horsepower. (popcorn)

Hi Pat
That makes sense ..But as the tensile strenght of the chain gets higher is there more weight to the chain
thus making the rotating mass heavier require higher horsepower to drive it? or are the number so small the
average guy can feel it anyway...So what chian would you buy?
Thanks Pat

Hi Dan
I'll take your word for it that he is kidding. But should we re frame from make derogatory comments about people we have
no past communication and have no way of knowing if our comment are offensive to that person.
I have no problem when I read old friends bantering back and forth and having a good time doing it
but this was not the case I have never spoke to FJMonkey before tonight. Enough Said time to move on
Thanks
Robert



Robert
1985 FJ1100  Original Owner
1986 FJ1200  X Drag Bike
1981 Suzuki GS 1100ex
1981 Suzuki GS 750ex

Tapartacus

Hey Robert take it easy on FJMonkey... he's got no feet!. Hey Pat for my 92 is 110 links enough?
Andrew
92  FJ1200
89  FJ1200

Pat Conlon

You guys crack me up.... Of course I was yanking your chain, Kevin nailed it.

Seriously 'thou, we have heavy bikes with a torque happy motor, so get the best chain you can, it will last longer and end up costing you less in the long run.

Assuming a counter shaft sprocket of 17 or 18 teeth and a rear sprocket of 38 to 42 teeth, and a oem swing arm, 110 links are fine. A bigger back sprocket than 42 teeth, all bets are off.

Cheers guys, I meant no hurt feelings. We have a long time standing joke on this forum about the pro's/con's of various engine oils in our FJ's

Peace out.
1) Free Owners Manual download: https://tinyurl.com/fmsz7hk9
2) Don't store your FJ with E10 fuel https://tinyurl.com/3cjrfct5
3) Replace your old stock rubber brake lines.
4) Important items for the '84-87 FJ's:
Safety wire: https://tinyurl.com/99zp8ufh
Fuel line: https://tinyurl.com/bdff9bf3

FJSpringy

you run oil in the engine, what a waste, it would only burn up and go black, far safer keeping it in the OEM container away from sun light.


hate to start another fight but I use a scottoiler, properly setup it does not spew crap all over the rear wheel and my chain loves it  :good2:  
I have kleptomania,
but when it gets bad,
I take something for it.

********************

92 FJ1200

JMR

Quote from: Pat Conlon on September 21, 2012, 02:19:40 AM
You guys crack me up.... Of course I was yanking your chain, Kevin nailed it.

Seriously 'thou, we have heavy bikes with a torque happy motor, so get the best chain you can, it will last longer and end up costing you less in the long run.

Assuming a counter shaft sprocket of 17 or 18 teeth and a rear sprocket of 38 to 42 teeth, and a oem swing arm, 110 links are fine. A bigger back sprocket than 42 teeth, all bets are off.

Cheers guys, I meant no hurt feelings. We have a long time standing joke on this forum about the pro's/con's of various engine oils in our FJ's

Peace out.
Kinda funny you had to clarify...... :lol: