Riding tips, what have you learned?

[ribbert]

Don't bother wearing Hi-Vis, it does nothing to help.

Yes it does, it makes it easier for the Ambo's to locate you amongst the wreckage.

[elbows]

ride fast and smooth and keep your eyes open for the rest of the fucking idots on the road

[AustinFJ]

Don't bother wearing Hi-Vis, it does nothing to help.

While in one sense, I understand what you are saying (if they are ignorant, they don't see ANYTHING) it does offer the ability to rock up to the window of the moron that just cut you off and let him know that he is either drunk or stupid, possibly both.  When wearing Hi-Viz, they don't tend to argue.   

[Klavdy]

Learn to love lane splitting.

Filtering by motorcycle on the A6 from the Stockport area out towards Buxton

[andyb]

And go to jail or have an irate cager door you, particularly in areas where it's illegal and a good way to cause resentment for motorcycling by the masses.  Lovely.  Perfectly appropriate where legal, though.

[soundmindryan]

I always keep in mind that the world is NOT a closed course race track, where there's crews to keep the track clean and free from sand, oill spills, debris and is fenced off to prohibit animals, kids, an morons from entering the track. In the real world, ANYTHING can happen, including an entire lane dowsing with transmission fluid for the length of a city block, and odds are it's at an intersection where you're turning. (Don't ask me how I know ) Don't ride faster than you can avoid these Spy-Movie-type oil slicks.

[Arnie]

Learn to love lane splitting.  (Youtube clip)

I can't tell you just how much I disagree with this "example" of filtering.
It is an invitation to go to:  [ Jail / Hospital / Court / Mortuary ]

You do need to "command the road" by taking the lane and not putting yourself in position to get squeezed into the curb (or over the cliff) , but this is sheer lunacy IMO.

I do split lanes, but to put yourself on  the wrong side of the road WHILE there is other traffic coming at you is just stupid.  Most if not all road users expect that they have a right to use the lane to the centerline and have oncoming traffic stay on their own side.

Arnie

[tmkaos]

I'm with you on this one Arnie, I lane split all the time  but WTF? never on the other side of the line.  It's like standing at a line of urinals and then pissing in the one next door while someone is using it. It's his territory, chances are he's going to be pissed off and will probably hit you. In a toilet, that sucks, on a bike, sucks worse.

Learn to love lane splitting.  (Youtube clip)

I can't tell you just how much I disagree with this "example" of filtering.
It is an invitation to go to:  [ Jail / Hospital / Court / Mortuary ]

You do need to "command the road" by taking the lane and not putting yourself in position to get squeezed into the curb (or over the cliff) , but this is sheer lunacy IMO.

I do split lanes, but to put yourself on  the wrong side of the road WHILE there is other traffic coming at you is just stupid.  Most if not all road users expect that they have a right to use the lane to the centerline and have oncoming traffic stay on their own side.

Arnie

[Klavdy]

What a load of hot cock.
There's nothing at all dangerous about the way that bloke lanesplits.
When you lane split, lane split like a BOSS!
Or else get outta the way, go home and knit a Hi-Vis vest, stick a dayglo flag on your bike.

[Arnie]

You have got to be trying to make up for lost time off the list.
You can't possibly think that riding on the wrong side of the road is a reasonable thing to do, or are you much stupider than I gave you credit for?
I'm fine with "filtering" between lanes of traffic moving in the same direction when there is room.  I'm also fine with overtaking (passing) traffic moving in the same direction as you by using the oncoming lane, but ONLY when it is free of oncoming traffic.
This clip, and you (supposedly) would have us believe that its the "BOSS" thing to do.

B U L L S H I T !!  You are inviting a head on collision while on a vehicle with no protection from such events.  As licensed road users, we agree to a set of conventions.  This behaviour is outright dangerous and foolhardy.  To encourage it is criminal.

Arnie

What a load of hot cock.
There's nothing at all dangerous about the way that bloke lanesplits.
When you lane split, lane split like a BOSS!
Or else get outta the way, go home and knit a Hi-Vis vest, stick a dayglo flag on your bike.

[Klavdy]

Stupid?
Rubbish.
You do know where that clip is, don't you Arnie?
Not everyone is as timid or inept as you seem to think.
Maybe it's a by product of your demonstrated physical and moral cowardice.

[SlowOldGuy]

There are European countries where this type of riding is "accepted" by the auto public.  The key is to not abuse the speed limit while doing it.

This would never work in America.  Too much ego and frustration from the auto side and too many stupid abusive riders.

Klav, I see no reason to make this so personal.  Could you please interact in a less inflamatory mode?  I don't mind the usual Klavdy, but everything doesn't need to be at that level. 

Please.

DavidR.

[bugboy]

Seems like Klavdy's brush with mortality has left him a little more confrontational and opinionated than before. Maybe his meds need adjusted or something.

[Mike Ramos]

Well, well well,
I take no position on this issue, but how rich old DavidR saying "no reason to make this so personal".
After DavidR hammered me over some Mickey Mouse video I posted re: a situation he wasn't even involved in.
I'll post my response to his statments about that video an another thread later, but now this is pure irony at its' best.
Hey DavidR, don't forget the humor, it keeps the "inflamatory mode" at a more moderate level.
What a joke...
Keep smiling fellows,
Mike Ramos.

[Dan Filetti]

Well, well well,
I take no position on this issue, but how rich old DavidR saying "no reason to make this so personal".
After DavidR hammered me over some Mickey Mouse video I posted re: a situation he wasn't even involved in.

Mike-

I just went back and re-read that thread.  David never got personal, unless you consider him saying passing on the right was not a good idea, and not something he would be involved in himself.  Not to rekindle this, but I agree with him on this point.

He also complimented your riding and offered an conciliatory olive branch, and you said 'no offense taken'.

Clearly you were bruised by the criticism.  Keep in mind however that for whatever reason, responses to posted videos unless they are complimentary, seem to really get people upset, I'm learning.

Klavdy on the other hand, with all of his colorful unvarnished foibles would be hard to take as not personally offensive if you were set apposed to him on a given point.  It is seemingly his nature.

Dan