Clutch Boss Holding Tool? And other clutch questions.

[David Allaband]

Hi all. I got my FJ home and now I need to pull the clutch. Before I dig in I'm trying to know everything I can. My Clymer manual mentions a tool to hold the clutch boss while I loosen and tighten the clutch nut. Do I really need this special tool? I can I use something else?

Why do I have to hold the clutch housing while removing the spacer? Will it really damage the clutch housing bearing?

Where on the bike can I scavenge two 6mm bolts to pull out the clutch bearing spacer?

I have feeler gauges and a caliper gauge. Are there any other special tools I need for this job?

Should I stick a new clutch spring in there with my old spring, or use the coil spring upgrade mod? I live in NYC so I have TONS of stop and go traffic, but I'm only 36 so I have some mojo left for clutch lever actuation. I'm leaning toward the two spring mod because it sounds like it holds stronger then the coil spring mod and it's much cheaper. Is it wise to use my old spring as the 2nd spring?

Thanks for everything!

Randy, I'll be pestering you soon for boxes of clutch replacement parts!

[racerrad8]

Hi all. I got my FJ home and now I need to pull the clutch. Before I dig in I'm trying to know everything I can. My Clymer manual mentions a tool to hold the clutch boss while I loosen and tighten the clutch nut. Do I really need this special tool? I can I use something else?

Why do I have to hold the clutch housing while removing the spacer? Will it really damage the clutch housing bearing?

Where on the bike can I scavenge two 6mm bolts to pull out the clutch bearing spacer?

I have feeler gauges and a caliper gauge. Are there any other special tools I need for this job?

Should I stick a new clutch spring in there with my old spring, or use the coil spring upgrade mod? I live in NYC so I have TONS of stop and go traffic, but I'm only 36 so I have some mojo left for clutch lever actuation. I'm leaning toward the two spring mod because it sounds like it holds stronger then the coil spring mod and it's much cheaper. Is it wise to use my old spring as the 2nd spring?

Thanks for everything!

Randy, I'll be pestering you soon for boxes of clutch replacement parts!

You do not have to go that deep...

Remove the six bolts holding the clutch spring on and you can access everything you need. If you do have to remove the center hub because of wear, then an impact gun with a 30mm socket and holding the center hub be hand does the job.

But, unless the clutch surface area of the center hub is no good, then you do not need to go that deep.

Yes, use the old with the new and that will reduce the clamping force over two new ones...

Randy - RPM

[Mark Olson]

You can also add two more friction disks to the pack with a little work and just go with one new clutch spring and save your hand the work out.

Or double up and put a fjr1300 clutch master on it.   I used the old clutch spring with the new one.

[andyb]

Double springs + stock master + stop and go traffic = Fooey.  Sucks at any age.  It's fine when you're only using the clutch periodically and don't need perfect control over it, but it's overkill.  Heartily recommend swapping to a different clutch master cylinder if you go that route.

[David Allaband]

Thanks for the info everyone.

So now I need an FJR 1300 Master. I have heard there are different kinds (like adjustable). Can someone tell me which is the best one to get? I see lots of them on Ebay for around $75. Also, they look different from mine... are the FJR masters a direct swap out? They fit on my bars and under my fairing and connect to my hose and work with my slave?

Randy, if I put in that quick shift mod spring you offer do I have to take out the clutch boss? I don't have an impact wrench, will a breaker bar and my hand to steady it (instead of the special tool) work?

Thanks again!

[David Allaband]

Whoops, I was looking at the brake masters! Far fewer options for the clutch master! I only see one! It does look adjustable though....

[racerman_27410]

Whoops, I was looking at the brake masters! Far fewer options for the clutch master! I only see one! It does look adjustable though....

yes the FJR clutch master will work and has a 5 position adjustable lever... and if you want a matching adjustable brake lever for the front the first gen FZ1's are a perfect match as well as the FJR's


KOokaloo!

[FJ111200]

I don't have an impact wrench, will a breaker bar and my hand to steady it (instead of the special tool) work?

Those clutch boss nuts can be on very tight, and the way i used to do it was with the engine in the frame, and the rear brake applied, with the engine in gear.
You could also have the engine in gear with a lump of wood through the rear wheel and across the swingarm.
The reason for either method is that if you don't have the wheel held, the force of the breaker bar on the clutch boss nut will force the whole bike backwards.

[David Allaband]

Thanks for the info on using the rear brake to hold the transmission shaft! That's the way I like doing things, with what's already there.

I bought this clutch master.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/250955924293?item=250955924293&viewitem=&sspagename=ADME:L:OC:US:3160&vxp=mtr#ht_2879wt_906

I'll be ordering the other parts from Randy at RPM. I haven't torn into the clutch yet so I don't know what I'm up against. Hopefully it's not mayhem. But it's usually mayhem.

[RichBaker]

I've been running the double spring for close to 10 years, in stop-and-go traffic among other things, and haven't had any issues with the additional force required....guess it depends on hand strength. 

[FJmonkey]

I've been running the double spring for close to 10 years, in stop-and-go traffic among other things, and haven't had any issues with the additional force required....guess it depends on hand strength. 

Not having a girlfriend or wife for some time will improve hand strength.....

[Mark Olson]

only if you are left handed.

[FJ111200]

only if you are left handed.

Not having a girlfriend or wife for some time will improve hand strength.....
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Tight fisted wankers.