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Started by Dino33L, March 05, 2012, 02:41:39 PM

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Dino33L

And rived it slightlyto and hitI the killinspection switch....thats all ithe did yesterday.Yesterday my 1991 FJ started up....it took a bit but it started. This morning, it wouldn  (popcorn)'t start all. Normally when I turn it on, the fuel pupm makes its normal start up noise. Howver, this time...nothing. when I hit the starter there wasn't any noise at all...no cranking, clicking, ect...nothing. I did smell gas right away before starting and when I hit the starter button, only the fuel light and oil light come on (headlight stays on ). I'm thinking the fule pump? I only ran it for a couple minutes yesterday. Just before turning it off, I rived it slightly then hit the kill switch....that's it. I do know my starter clutch is going out but it at least still makes some noise....this time nothing...almost like the battery wasn't even plugged in.

SlowOldGuy

I'd check three things (in this order):

1) battery
2) Battery
3) BATTERY

DavidR.

racerrad8

Quote from: SlowOldGuy on March 05, 2012, 02:52:50 PM
I'd check three things (in this order):

1) battery
2) Battery
3) BATTERY

DavidR.

Did someone say BATTERY?

Randy - RPM
Randy - RPM

tmkaos

How about the nuetral switch? If it's faulty it could be thinking it's in a gear instead of neutral. Try it with the clutch lever pulled in..
Or the kill switch could be faulty, not sure how you'd check for that other than disassembling the switch block
'92 FJ1200 - '07 to present
'83 VF750S Sabre - '04 - '07
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SlowOldGuy

Quote from: Dino33L on March 05, 2012, 02:41:39 PM
This morning, it wouldn't start all. Normally when I turn it on, the fuel pupm makes its normal start up noise. Howver, this time...nothing. when I hit the starter there wasn't any noise at all...no cranking, clicking, ect...nothing. ...    I do know my starter clutch is going out but it at least still makes some noise....this time nothing...almost like the battery wasn't even plugged in.

Do the EASY things first! Verify the battery is good or bad before you start pulling things apart.  Even a bad battery can hold a 12 volt surface charge, measure the voltage under load. 

If NOTHING is happening at all, it's the battery!!!!

DavidR.

winddancer

Quote from: racerrad8 on March 05, 2012, 03:05:41 PM
Quote from: SlowOldGuy on March 05, 2012, 02:52:50 PM
I'd check three things (in this order):

1) battery
2) Battery
3) BATTERY

DavidR.

Did someone say BATTERY?


nice plug love it  (popcorn) (popcorn) (popcorn) (popcorn)

Randy - RPM

yosemite

If it is not the battery check your fuses if not these it  sounds like a neutral switch problem or a kill switch problem ,try to start it with the sidestand up,and the clutch lever in this should eliminate problems with the neutral switch next check the kill switch is working, I found that if you put a spark plug in one of the plug caps and  if  you flick it on  and leave it for a few seconds without doing anything else  you get a spark at the plug for some reason  At least I do, dont know about  any body else. If this doesnt work check the switch with a meter and check wiring connectors at the multiplug
If everything seems Ok It may be the lockout relay wich is located next to the indicator relay, simplest chek on this is to see if it clicks as the various switches are operated as though they would stop the engine running(eg sidestand down with the bike in gear). again check wiring connections
I hope its something simple
Good luck
yosemite

craigo

Also, open up the right bar switch and use contact cleaner on the whole area. That might help.

Good luck,

CraigO
CraigO
90FJ1200

racerrad8

Randy - RPM

Dino33L

Hey all...Thanks for all the replies. I really don't think it's the battery because it's pretty new - replaced it this past summer. It could be the kill switch - I didn't think about so I'll certainly try spraying contact cleaner on that - and I didn't think about the neutral safety switch. The only problem with testing that is this bike has never liked starting with the clutch in...go figure...but I will try starting it at least with the kickstand up (and maybe with the clutch pulled in). The only thing that makes me feel it isn't any of that is the fact that I smelled gas as soom as I opened the garage door (not sure if all that got in my post...was trying to use my "smart phone" and apparently my message didn't get typed out too well...sorry).

Thanks again guys  :good2:

Dino

Marsh White

Quote from: Dino33L on March 05, 2012, 08:54:58 PM
Hey all...Thanks for all the replies. I really don't think it's the battery because it's pretty new - replaced it this past summer.

If I had a dollar for everytime I've heard that on this forum - and it ended up being the battery - I'd be a rich man.  Seriously dude - 9 times out of 10 what you are describing turns out to be the battery.  Listen to the listers here before you dick around with everything else...

racerrad8

Quote from: Marsh White on March 05, 2012, 09:05:31 PM
Quote from: Dino33L on March 05, 2012, 08:54:58 PM
Hey all...Thanks for all the replies. I really don't think it's the battery because it's pretty new - replaced it this past summer.

If I had a dollar for everytime I've heard that on this forum - and it ended up being the battery - I'd be a rich man.  Seriously dude - 9 times out of 10 what you are describing turns out to be the battery.  Listen to the listers here before you dick around with everything else...

So Marsh,

If I understand you correctly he should really look at the battery...

Is that correct?

Randy - RPM :biggrin:
Randy - RPM

FJmonkey

Quote from: racerrad8 on March 05, 2012, 09:11:58 PM
Quote from: Marsh White on March 05, 2012, 09:05:31 PM
Quote from: Dino33L on March 05, 2012, 08:54:58 PM
Hey all...Thanks for all the replies. I really don't think it's the battery because it's pretty new - replaced it this past summer.

If I had a dollar for everytime I've heard that on this forum - and it ended up being the battery - I'd be a rich man.  Seriously dude - 9 times out of 10 what you are describing turns out to be the battery.  Listen to the listers here before you dick around with everything else...

So Marsh,

If I understand you correctly he should really look at the battery...

Is that correct?

Randy - RPM :biggrin:
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SlowOldGuy

If you did smell gas, you might want to make sure the cylinders aren't full of fuel!  That could prevent it from turning over.

DavidR.

Mark Olson

Quote from: SlowOldGuy on March 05, 2012, 09:49:49 PM
If you did smell gas, you might want to make sure the cylinders aren't full of fuel!  That could prevent it from turning over.

DavidR.

It will then bend your rods.
Mark O.
86 fj1200
sac ca.

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