State Of The Union Address

[axiom-r]

Klavdy,

Sorry to hear you are not well man- eat your peas and carrots and do what the nurse says....  hopefully it's Nurse Betty Goodtits and not Nurse Crotchet....

cheers-  tim

[Klavdy]

Good Lord, what new US Marine base ?
The one both parties talked up?
It's a bunch of shit, there's already bases we built up there, Lavarack,Tindal, Robertson to name just a few, you blokes are always encouraged to use them.
I was in Darwin, Northern Territory when Airforce 1 arrived on the scene.
Wow,talk about  Rock Stars, we  have a genuine affection for our, at times goofy big Seppo brothers.
Now, about those Firetrucks, you know the ones with the additional steering section on the back?
They are cool.
Bet they go WHOOO-WHOOOP!

[Pat Conlon]

........Yeah- we have no common ground on this one!

Yes, you do....

The commonality that I see with your posts is that everyone had a hand in the crisis: government, consumer, lender, investor.

Excellent discussion!

[Klavdy]

WHOOO-WHOOOP! I say, WHOOO-WHOOOP!

The Firetrucks go WHOOO-WHOOOP!  WHOOO-WHOOOP!

It's 04:00, I'm in my lovely hospital room, more like a nice hotel room, really, smashed outta my gourd on Morphine shots and Endone, watching cable T.V and mucking about on the Innerwebz.

Not something I do more than once every year or two.

WHOOO-WHOOOP!  WHOOO-WHOOOP!

[Pat Conlon]

I think that it's somewhere in the Forum rules that there is to be no posting while stoned on morphine....Let me check.....

[axiom-r]

I was gonna say Klavdy, seems like you are enjoying the ride!!!   

Nice!



Your right Pat- all the players had a role.  Enjoy your ride today!


tim

[craigo]

WHOOO-WHOOOP! I say, WHOOO-WHOOOP!

The Firetrucks go WHOOO-WHOOOP!  WHOOO-WHOOOP!

It's 04:00, I'm in my lovely hospital room, more like a nice hotel room, really, smashed outta my gourd on Morphine shots and Endone, watching cable T.V and mucking about on the Innerwebz.

Not something I do more than once every year or two.

WHOOO-WHOOOP!  WHOOO-WHOOOP!

It is now apparent why you love the free health care. WHOOP WHOOP WOOOOOOOOO...

Get better soon, you crazy loon,

CraigO

[Mark Olson]

I think that it's somewhere in the Forum rules that there is to be no posting while stoned on morphine....Let me check.....

no pat that was an old yahoo group rule.

[JMR]

  It's a sunny 75* and I'm going for a ride...   Fr Paddy.

You suck Pat. (wink)

[The General]

PM sent. Doug

[Arnie]

Klavdy,

Those big LaFrance Hook & Ladder trucks won't fit on our roads and certainly won't work in the bush.
They need a large source of water from hydrants.  And what are you gonna climb with those ladders, Gum trees?
Can you imagine a fleet of them monsters bouncing around a rocky (1-2 ft boulders) paddock chasing a grassfire?
Now, about the WHOOP, WHOOP noise - yeah, some of our newer 4WD trucks have sirens with multi-selection knobs so we can make noises very similiar.  :-)  You should see how startled some drivers are when you hit the siren from just behind them    They don't see firetrucks either.

Enjoy your meds, they won't last long

Arnie

[Dan Filetti]

I think it is easy to understand that an individual cannot be trusted not to reach for a better place in life if it is being waved in front of them for the taking...  this is why the banks are complicit and responsible for the real estate crash.

Tim-

That's the crux of it right there.  The penultimate liberal viewpoint:  'people can not be trusted to do the right thing for themselves, they must be coddled, taken care of, micro-managed, ruled!!  

So I guess I'm a genius.  Somehow I saw it was prudent to not spend too much.  All of these other jerks never gave it a thought?  Or did they simply not care?  No wait, they were PREYED upon!  That takes the responsibility right away from them -phrasing it like that, now doesn't it?    

Your other analogy -rabbits and waived carrots- also speaks to the liberal viewpoint.  Again, people are not rabbits, they have this thing called reason, and intellect.  Pardon the right and me for assuming that people can and should actually think!  

You say "...what about the American dream?" Can't you see that for some, that was all it ever was, (or at least should have been) -a dream?  The stark reality is that some folks will not be able to afford owning their own home.  It was a long term goal that not everyone would attain.  If it was easy, everyone would have one...  So it was well meaning liberal meddling that screwed this all up.  They thought they'd try and help that America dream along!  In 1977 Carter dreamed up the "Community Reinvestment Act" which essentially pressured private banks to make riskier loans, as well as set HUD affordable housing goals.

Again in 1999 it was Clinton who pressured Fannie and Freddie to make loans to lower-income people -hell this was in the NYT for crying out loud, at the time, they were proud of their president.  

http://sweetness-light.com/archive/1999-nyt-clinton-pressured-fannie-mae    

Yes, people should have self control, stating otherwise is merely justification for the greed your friends the mortgage bankers showed.  So how can you say that individuals are somehow absolved from needing self control, yet your evil greedy mortgage broker friends (individuals themselves) need it imposed on them?    

Game on.

Dan

[Dan Filetti]

And for all you "I'm going for a ride/ how about them clippers" folks, this is fun for me.  If you don't like it, don't read it.

Dan

[Pat Conlon]

Dan, don't get cranky, it's cool.......

[terryk]

Sadly I see vast and significant amounts of violent social unrest coming to our country, and sooner than we think as the middle and lower classes wake up to find their pockets picked and their future stolen by liars and thieves who know no bounds to their greed and their evil.

I believe that the great majority of the American people lack the "cojones" for any sort of uprising. We may see some more "occupy" type stuff but not in great enough scale that the police/military can't put down or contain. There will be some groups protesting or taking more violent means of protest, but they will be quickly branded as extremists and radicals (maybe even terrorists) and be crushed. Remember Ruby Ridge? That was just a guy that wanted to be left alone and someone at BATF developed a "hardon" for him,,,,, his wife, his kids and his dog were killed. If a group is seen as a threat the government has no problems making up evidence to use as justification for it's actions.

To put down their Big Macs, stop looking at their iPhones and go outside to put themselves at risk is just too damn inconvenient for most.

I'm sure that the government and the wealthy power-brokers have given this some thought and they will come up with new and wonderful "pacifiers" for the masses. It may be new entertainment technologies, new drugs or a new "enemy" to put the blame on. Those with the power and money are not going to give it up easily and I'm sure they are/will be keeping a close eye on any "radicals".

Remember the arab spring, civil unrest in the 1906's. We will see.