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tires: plug or not to plug

Started by jdog, May 20, 2011, 10:30:05 PM

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jdog

With help from members of the forum, I was able to get my cold start problem rectified. Now I have an other problem, I pulled a big screw out of my back tire. Both front and rear tires are Dunlop Arrowmax GT501 and are in great shape (except a big hole in the rear). Is it safe to plug a bias ply motorcycle tire? :scratch_one-s_head:

Pat Conlon

IMO On the road, plug the tire.
At home, take the wheel off and take it down to your local m/c shop and have it patched from the inside.
Recently I saw on this forum, a neat product that was a combination patch and plug. It looked to be the more effective than a patch.

Seems that everyone has a different opinion on this.....

HTH  Pat
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Marsh White

Quote from: Pat Conlon on May 20, 2011, 11:49:35 PM
IMO On the road, plug the tire.
At home, take the wheel off and take it down to your local m/c shop and have it patched from the inside.
Recently I saw on this forum, a neat product that was a combination patch and plug. It looked to be the more effective than a patch.

Seems that everyone has a different opinion on this.....

HTH  Pat

Non motorcycle related - but the other day my wife picked up a screw in one of our car tires that was purchased at Costco.  They have a 5 year road hazard warranty.  I took it in and watched the guy both plug it and patch it - both from the inside.  They had a special workstation for doing just this.  He then put it in a caged off contraption (in case it blew up) that pressure tested it repeatedly for about 5 minutes before putting it on the car.  I was impressed.  Didn't cost me a cent.

My point being - apparently BOTH plugging and patching is considered safe for the life of the tire - as long as the screw/nail is is picked up in the tread and not the sidewall. 

mikeholzer


I can't speak for bike tires, but I've been using Safety-Seal tire plugs for nearly 20 years. The only car tire I couldn't successfully repair with those is the one with the CO2 pistol cartridge in it; that hole was way too big. I wish I had a photo of it, you guys wouyld have never believed it.

RichBaker

PatchPlugs.... They're the only method endorsed by MC tire manufacturers...... Only caveat is to reduce the speed rating one level.
Rich Baker - NRA Life, AZCDL, Trail Riders of S. AZ. , AMA Life, BRC, HEAT Dirt Riders, SAMA....
Tennessee Squire
90 FJ1200, 03 WR450F ;8^P

andyb

Put a patch/plug thing in my last rear.  Lasted 1500 miles and didn't leak at all.  Would have lasted longer but the front tire was getting square and I wanted to try a different brand, so replaced both as a set.

Though, those were radials, ymmv, patching tires causes instant death and probably AIDS and makes your ears fall off, according to the manufacturers.

Harvy

Quote from: andyb on May 22, 2011, 02:57:21 PM


Though, those were radials, ymmv, patching tires causes instant death and probably AIDS and makes your ears fall off, according to the manufacturers.


Thanks Andy, I now have coffee in my nasal passages!

Harvy
FJZ1 1200 - It'll do me just fine.
Timing has much to do with the success of a rain dance.

jdog

Thanks guys for the help.
about 6 weeks ago when I pulled the screw out of the tire I put a gooey rope type plug in the tire (because that's what I had in my tool box and it's what I use on my jeep and work truck) I figured once I got the bike running I would get a new tire but the bike is running and I've done a few 120mph runs down the freeway and it's still holding  35psi. I think I'll just keep an eye on it and change out the tire when it wears out and maybe ride closer to the speed limit :nea: no i won't.
Jason

RichBaker

35 psi is too low for an FJ......  38F, 42R.  Especially if you're going to be running those speeds regularly......  :drinks:
Rich Baker - NRA Life, AZCDL, Trail Riders of S. AZ. , AMA Life, BRC, HEAT Dirt Riders, SAMA....
Tennessee Squire
90 FJ1200, 03 WR450F ;8^P

chapindad

Thanks for the psi. I never thought to ask.  I will fix that tomorrow.  :dash1:
1989 FJ1200
1987 Corvette

FJ Flyer

Hmmm...I always ran 36F 38R.  Any case, I got a nail in my week old rear Angel ST on my FJR.  Pulled the tire and patched it from the inside.  Got a lot of miles on in, including the ride down and back to the Boone Rally.  Not sure I would ride that much with a plug.
Chris P.
'16 FJR1300ES
'87 FJ1200
'76 DT250

Wear your gear.


RichBaker

Owners manual says 38/42 for high temps or extended high speeds..... Living in Tucson, I went with it for both reasons.   :drinks:
Rich Baker - NRA Life, AZCDL, Trail Riders of S. AZ. , AMA Life, BRC, HEAT Dirt Riders, SAMA....
Tennessee Squire
90 FJ1200, 03 WR450F ;8^P

FJ Flyer

Manual also says use bias ply tires.  Are you running bias or radials?
Chris P.
'16 FJR1300ES
'87 FJ1200
'76 DT250

Wear your gear.


RichBaker

I'm running radials, Pilot Road CT2.  Michelin says to run the same pressures I quoted....... 38/42.  I've already covered those bases.....
Rich Baker - NRA Life, AZCDL, Trail Riders of S. AZ. , AMA Life, BRC, HEAT Dirt Riders, SAMA....
Tennessee Squire
90 FJ1200, 03 WR450F ;8^P