87' FJ1200 - Loss of Acceleration

[oldktmdude]

The old saying about leading a horse to water springs to mind.     Pete.

[rktmanfj]

At a loss??  Did you could read the link that Andy posted in Reply #1 to your original post?

C'mon Pat - give him the link again.  Here it is again!  (this will fix your problem)  http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?topic=2024.0

Just for the record... that's THREE times... the tinyurl I posted goes to the same .pdf.       

Randy T
Indy

[carsick]

James,
Your bike is obviously cursed. That noise is the crying of the banshee.  Sell me your bike before something awful happens.
I am a poison eater, many bikes with hexes and other ailments find their way to my door and pass their evil spirits to me.
Or you could take the gas cap apart.

[weymouth399]

Doug is there something you want to share with us, is this motor cursed.
I don't need any bad luck thats why you have old blue.

Bob W

[vpfjames]

Wow, pretty amazing how these forums go from quite inviting to sarcasting smart ass remarks.  My appologies for not looking at the frog picture.  It didnt even dawn on me that there was a gas cap in the middle of it.  Just assumed it was a random footer at the bottom of a posting.  The original posting does lead to a PDF download, again excuse my cautiousness being new to the forums, and quite familiar around a computer for not downloading things from the computer from people I am not accustom to.  As far as Tinyurl links, quite popular again with getting nasty little things I clean off computers on a daily basis.  FJMonkey, thank you for being patient with me, simply explaining what was needed instead of downing my questions.  You have been a great help to me, and its appreciated.

[Marsh White]

Wow, pretty amazing how these forums go from quite inviting to sarcasting smart ass remarks.  My appologies for not looking at the frog picture.  It didnt even dawn on me that there was a gas cap in the middle of it.  Just assumed it was a random footer at the bottom of a posting.  The original posting does lead to a PDF download, again excuse my cautiousness being new to the forums, and quite familiar around a computer for not downloading things from the computer from people I am not accustom to.  As far as Tinyurl links, quite popular again with getting nasty little things I clean off computers on a daily basis.  FJMonkey, thank you for being patient with me, simply explaining what was needed instead of downing my questions.  You have been a great help to me, and its appreciated.

Don't get bent out of shape!  We were just trying to help.  But - as more and more information surfaced from you about your problem - it became more and more apparent to us that if you had just clicked the very first link (answer) posted to you and read it that your problem would have been solved.  You failed to heed / read the advice given to you.  So it had to be pointed out - again and again.  That's all.  

BTW: it is pretty hard to get a virus from a pdf...   also - it has been downloaded 128 times previously - you would think that if there was a problem that it would have surfaced by now...

[vpfjames]

Marsh, I know most are trying to help.  This is what intrigued me of this site, and my comment wasnt directed towards those, yourself included that simply stated what needs to be done.  Even opening the PDF and reading what is there, is simply a diagram of how to disassemble the gas cap, which is great for cleaning, replacing pieces, or of course modifying if you know what you are modifying.  However it wasn't until FJMonkey informed me of what part needed to be removed in order to modify it to accomplish what needed to be done. (once again, thank you FJMonkey) Point being, all the unnecessary ridicule of my questioning is probably driving people away from this site that would otherwise stick around.  Ive lived by the rule, "the only dumb questions are the ones that aren't asked".  Here on this forum, it doesn't seem to be this way, and its a shame because i'm sure there are quite a few people new to the FJ life that would love to learn from you guys. Just my opinion of course.

And not to get off subject, but just to be known.  PDF files are used quite frequently to pass along boot sector viruses hidden within gif and jpeg images embedded in them.  And yes, I too took note of the amount of times it was downloaded, however using that to judge whether or not something is "safe" is the biggest mistake people make when surfing the web.  You use an SMF forum here on the site, which in my experience is quite easy to get in to and change stored files (like PDFs) at will, especially using hosting providers like Siteground.

But enough on this, Ive taken my gas cap assembly off, and will use the provided PDF to remove the piece pointed out to me, and will re-assemble it in the morning and give it a whirl to see if it solves the dilemma.

[andyb]

Bwahahahahha. 

And not to get off subject, but just to be known.  PDF files are used quite frequently to pass along boot sector viruses hidden within gif and jpeg images embedded in them.  And yes, I too took note of the amount of times it was downloaded,

You'd think someone would notice.  If you're so comfortable with the dangerous and common viruses, you should be comfortable fixing them as well.  And if you're paranoid enough to not click the bloody links when you're given a direct answer, then you should have backups of your files.  Though I'll grant that I despise tinyurl, and it's not got any purpose, not even slightly, other than hiding the nature of where a link goes.

But c'mon, you gotta look at the answers provided to get anywhere.  Lord knows if we posted immediate links to viruses or nastiness, they'd be moderated out after an outcry.

[vpfjames]

andyb, not trying to sound as if I'm not appreciative of the diagram you provided, because I am.  But realistically, what did that do to help me based off my original question?  You mentioned I needed to look at the answers provided, I am in agreement with you there, but the answers were not provided until FJMonkey informed me what needed to be done to modify the cap.  Please correct me if i'm wrong here, but all previous posts did not do this.  You state that I was given a link with a direct answer?  If the question was, "how do I disassemble the gas cap?" then yes, it would have been a direct answer.  However that was not the question.
I am quite comfortable fixing computers, as i'm sure you are quite comfortable fixing your FJ, but would you do something you know could be a potential problem for your FJ, just because you know you can fix it?  Kind of pointless isn't it?

Lets just stay on topic here, and again, thank you to those that are helping out those of us who don't have a clue when it comes to the mechanics of these great bikes.

[andyb]

u are quite comfortable fixing your FJ, but would you do something you know could be a potential problem for your FJ, just because you know you can fix it?  Kind of pointless isn't it?

Gas cap venting.  Breather assembly is shown in the assembly.  Now, it may be possible that it could be left as stock but is filthy and stuck/clogged, or it could be possible that you need additional work to clear it (i.e., a flapperectomy), but without knowing what mods you've done to your 1200, it's hard to guess at what your fuel requirements are, yes?  Yes, I probably should have just given you the answer without a link and let you use the search function, but I figured I'd save you some portion of the work.  You gotta look at the file to see the pictures, y`know

For reference, my FJ's engine is in little bits right now because I'm fixing something that wasn't broken, albeit it leaked a bit.

My computer got the OS reinstalled today, in fact (added a drive to the array), again, fixing things that weren't necessarily broken.  Pointless?  Take it apart and assume that you've got the skills to fix any problems you may cause, or assume that you've got the ability to find the answers to get it fixed properly.  Sure, once in a great while it'll bite you in the ass, but that's how you learn stuff, by working on things that you don't know how to fix... otherwise no one would take anything apart, ever, and we'd treat these as disposable.  Don't worry so much, man

[carsick]

smart ass remarks

James,
My intent was to make you laugh. I appear to have missed the mark. I apologize for piling on when you are frustrated and asking for help. Best of luck with fixing your bike. I still think you should sacrifice a pet (doesn't have to be yours!) to silence the sirens singing from your tank. Now when you've done this and it still runs poorly, we'll be here for you.
Doug

[Mark Olson]

 

[moparman70]

GAS tank venting -- when this first happened to me on my 86 bak in 87  I did not have the luxury of the internet.... I did the only thing I knew how at the time and cut a notch in the seal on the cap.  I was smart and cut the notch near the top so that when I do all those crazy wheelies no gas comes out.  Fortunately the brakes aren't too good for the "Stoppies" so no fear going the other way   javascript:void(0);

It worked very well by the way --- you cut a v-notch into the seal until the noise stops.    I live with the noise on the 90 model because I like the way the FJ sings to me when I park it.

sc2

[vpfjames]

Pulling the orange breather rubber worked like a charm.  No more hesitation going over 5k RPM.  Thanks guys for the help.

James