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Stuck Bolt - How can I get it out?

Started by 86FJNJ, November 03, 2024, 05:36:47 PM

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86FJNJ

Bike sat for over 15 years, been going through it. Sprayed these screws with penetrating oil many times, started slow...it started turning then it snapped. Bottom one loosened up fine.

What's the best way to get it out?

aviationfred

The most common way to remove the broken screw would be.
A center punch and hammer to stake a center mark in the broken screw.
A small drill bit and drill to make a hole in the center of the screw.
An Easy Out bolt extractor to remove the broken screw.


Fred
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FJmonkey

Left hand twist drill bit. Use a center punch to divot the center of the broken stud, helps the drill bit stay in the center. Then drill it out with a bit about an 1/8 inch diameter. Drill straight and slow, the broken stud tends to back out on the drill bit when the bit digs into the stud.
The glass is not half full, it was engineered with a 2X safety factor.

'86 Ambulance - Bent frame, cracked case, due for an overhaul
'89 Stormy Blue - Suits my Dark Side

racerrad8

Those screws have factory loctite.

The left hand drill might work, but you might need to heat to soften the loctite to get it out.

Randy - RPM
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Sparky84

Quote from: racerrad8 on November 03, 2024, 10:17:53 PMThose screws have factory loctite.

The left hand drill might work, but you might need to heat to soften the loctite to get it out.

Randy - RPM
Is the factory loctite like just blue or red loctite ?
1984 FJ1100
1979 Kawasaki Z1300
1972 Honda CB750/4 K2

racerrad8

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86FJNJ

Quote from: racerrad8 on November 03, 2024, 10:17:53 PMThose screws have factory loctite.

The left hand drill might work, but you might need to heat to soften the loctite to get it out.

Randy - RPM
Should I heat lightly with a hair dryer or a lot with a heat gun?

RPM - Robert

Blue is rated to 300 degrees Fahrenheit. I don't think a normal hair dryer will get that hot.

Sparky84

Quote from: racerrad8 on November 04, 2024, 05:25:13 AMBlue

Randy - RPM

Thanks

Quote from: 86FJNJ on November 04, 2024, 06:43:53 AM
Quote from: racerrad8 on November 03, 2024, 10:17:53 PMThose screws have factory loctite.

The left hand drill might work, but you might need to heat to soften the loctite to get it out.

Randy - RPM
Should I heat lightly with a hair dryer or a lot with a heat gun?
Bit of heat couldn't hurt, don't think you'd need 300°.

As you're drilling it'll heat up also, just don't break the drill bit while doing it.

1984 FJ1100
1979 Kawasaki Z1300
1972 Honda CB750/4 K2

Waiex191

Quote from: Sparky84 on November 04, 2024, 09:27:09 PMThe left hand drill might work, but you might need to heat to soften the loctite to get it out.
As you're drilling it'll heat up also, just don't break the drill bit while doing it.
Ideally you want to heat the case so it expands, but not the bolt.  Or heat the bolt less than the case.  Anything that makes it less tight.
Bryan
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1981 Suzuki GN400
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86FJNJ

Anyone know what threads these bolts area? I took the one I pulled out to the hardware store and I think it's an M8x16 so I got new ones but when checking fitment on the bike the threads of the new ones don't feel right so I didn't force it in. ChatGBT says it's M6x20mm. If anyone knows for sure that would help. It's a 1986. The bolts I took out were phillips heads which I'm surprised to see on an engine so wondering if they were original or not.

FJmonkey

Should be M6 x 1.0 by about 16 to 20 mm long.
The glass is not half full, it was engineered with a 2X safety factor.

'86 Ambulance - Bent frame, cracked case, due for an overhaul
'89 Stormy Blue - Suits my Dark Side

RPM - Robert

They are JIS screws not phillips and yes they appear to be the originals, at least what I can see of the one that is left.

They are 5mmx0.80 thread. Length is about 3/4 So 19mm length. Be careful with a 20mm long They will bottom out at some point and break the case before they tighten down on teh cover. 20mm length may work I haven't tried just be cautious when tightening.

86FJNJ

Quote from: RPM - Robert on Yesterday at 01:06:58 PMThey are JIS screws not phillips and yes they appear to be the originals, at least what I can see of the one that is left.

They are 5mmx0.80 thread. Length is about 3/4 So 19mm length. Be careful with a 20mm long They will bottom out at some point and break the case before they tighten down on teh cover. 20mm length may work I haven't tried just be cautious when tightening.

You were right, thanks for the help everyone! although I still have to get the screw out will let you know how it goes.