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Success! All the fluids stay where they should!

Started by Troyskie, July 23, 2021, 08:47:51 PM

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Troyskie

Well, after learning from the forum, forum members, YGSM, Haynes and various mechanics I can now say I've learnt how to maintain my bikes AND have them keep all the fluids where they should be.

Moving from being a rider who takes my bike in to be serviced to doing a frame up rebuild, splitting cases etc. was, in retrospect, a bigger project than I should have taken on. I should have started with a lawn mower.

Things that caused me to lose the will to live and walk away multiple times each:
1, Airbox.
2, F!@#ing leaky, gushing carbies (tap tap, ride off gutter).
3, Learning about hydraulics and master sight glasses that leak.
4, PO electrical shenanigans.
5, Intermittent bad electrical earth on gauges (my fault as usual).
6, Oil leaks where there shouldn't be (how could I have missed torqueing top case bolt #29???????).
7, Fairing/plastic cracks, more, and more, and more, and more......
8, Fairing plastic repair.
9, Paint (I'm just shit at that).
10, Removing old tank liners.
11, Not really knowing what I'm doing, so having to do it 5 times before I get it right.

All of the above are because I am a boofhead (except the PO electrical butchery), and not because the FJ is in any way hard to work on. I even have a snazzy method for the airbox now. As for paint, small parts, fine. Bigger bits I'll pay someone to do.

Interestingly the motor was pretty straight forward. Yes many mistakes, skinned knuckles, swearing and occasional use of a hammer, but overall not too bad except for getting the barrels over the rings without ring compressors.

My final task is to remove another tank liner that I screwed up after trying a quick fix to a freshly painted tank that had been 'professionally' repaired, and then have the tank and some other bits painted (by others).

After that, just riding and posting inane things like this on the forum  :mail1: :crazy:.

Did I get satisfaction from doing the full resto rebuild myself, yep, but not enough to do it again very soon.

Troyskie
1984 FJ1100 Ms Effie brand new :)
1984 FJ1100 Pearlie, stock as.
1985 FJ1100 Mr Effie 647,000K and still running hard.
1985 FJ1200 'Yummy' takes a licking & keeps on ticking
2013 Trumpy Tiger 800, let's do another lap of Oz

After all is said and done, more is said than done :)

krusty

Congratulations.
My problem of recently replacing my 1100's fairing and forgetting to reconnect the electrical connections, pales into insignificance (still have to remedy that one due to walking away muttering).
91 FJ1200
84 FJ1100 x 2
85 FJ1100
89 GL1500
76 CB750F1
72 CB350F
63 C92 x 2
59 C76
62 C100
63 C100
60 Colleda 250TA x 3
63 Suzuki MD50
77 DT125E
77 DT175E x 2
79 DT250F

FJmonkey

Sounds like you did all the right things. I worked for a company for many years that had French Canadian management. One of my favorite expressions (that I can post on this forum) is "going to bed less stupid than when I woke up". Good on ya Troy.   
The glass is not half full, it was engineered with a 2X safety factor.

'86 Ambulance - Bent frame, cracked case, due for an overhaul
'89 Stormy Blue - Suits my Dark Side

red

Troyskie,

Dang!  That's a big list! 

. . . 'WAY to go!

.
Cheers,
Red

P.S. Life is too short, and health is too valuable, to ride on cheap parade-duty tires.

Old Rider

Great stuff and again Conratulation with your fantastic complete rebulid .Your video should be nominated for Oscar   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WM6FBA7Q-8
Your aussie 1100 and 1200 treads in project writeup is also great reading. :good2:

ribbert

This is certainly an achievement worth breaking radio silence to acknowledge.

Troy, your journey from novice to case splitter to bike builder was a ripper. On many an occasion it could have been, with reasonable grounds for doing so, pushed to the back of the garage and forgotten, but you kept at it.
I have seen the finished product in the flesh and it's a credit to you, the fact that just about every job was a first for you, even more so.




For some of the newer members that may not realise it, that is Troy and the bike in question.


The thrill of turning this (above) into a near showroom bike and the satisfaction of cruising down the road listening to the engine you built purring away, it never wears off.

Well done.

Noel
"Tell a wise man something he doesn't know and he'll thank you, tell a fool something he doesn't know and he'll abuse you"

andyoutandabout

Certainly worth the effort, if it was just for the photo alone.
Few will parallel such an achievement.
Now you've something that will pay you back mile after mile.
Rejoice
life without a bike is just life

Pat Conlon

 :good: You have set the bench mark for the definition of a rebuild vs refreshing a FJ.

Well done sir!
1) Free Owners Manual download: https://tinyurl.com/fmsz7hk9
2) Don't store your FJ with E10 fuel https://tinyurl.com/3cjrfct5
3) Replace your old stock rubber brake lines.
4) Important items for the '84-87 FJ's:
Safety wire: https://tinyurl.com/99zp8ufh
Fuel line: https://tinyurl.com/bdff9bf3

gumby302ho

 Great work, love that picture. I have ripped inside of motors and done re-bores and cam changes and all the other fun stuff that helps us rip down the road but I have yet to open up an in-line 4 cylinder. My hat comes off to you Sir.

Troyskie

Thanks very much everyone!

All the very kind words have put a little spring in my step and twist in my throttle  :good2:.

As I said, I'm now in riding mode. It is still a tad chilly as it is winter here, but the bike is humming along beautifully.

Interestingly I had the opportunity to take both the red/silver US import, and the rebuilt ambo for comparison rides one after the other, multiple times, both nicely warmed up and ridden consecutively.

The red/silver is genuine stock (about 35K miles on the ODO, one loving owner and superb mechanic). 2nd gear was done, probably a warranty repair, and I've jetted and tuned to match the ambo.
The ambo has new gear clusters, shift detent upgrade, wiseco 1st oversize pistons, RPM valves and springs, new RPM carbies, new drive, starter and cam chains, upgraded sprag clutch, gold emulators, upgraded rear shock, timing advance, braided lines, new clutch, ALL bearings replaced and some other bits I can't recall right now.

Both have 16" stock wheels, Sport Demon tyres and identical pressures.

Massive difference between them. All the upgrades make a huge difference when you swap from one to the other. The red/silver stock rocket feels clunky in the gears and soft or more 'cruisy' on the suspension. The ambo is very close to a XJR in smoothness, shift, response and the suspension upgrades really make it feel like chalk and cheese between the two.

So, super duper support for the files section here. The above mods (except for splitting cases shenanigans) are in the 'easy and cheap to do' level, even for a novice like me. They really improve the bike and bring it in to the modern performance level.

If I were to start all over again?
The most basic I'd do for a daily ride is:
Petcock replacement regardless.
Braided lines and kits through all parts and replace/refurb the clutch slave.
Leave the cases alone unless 2nd gear is an issue.
Check compression and do a top end refresh with new pistons, rings, valves, springs etc.
Advance timing.
Deep clean the carbies and replace EVERYTHING, including choke plungers.
Keep the airbox (yeah, I know, but I have my snazzy trick now:) ).
Put emulators in the forks, upgrade the rear shock.
New tyres/chain & wheel bearings.
Steering head bearings, perhaps swingarm bearings.
Lose the will to live chasing electrical gremlins.

All up, even if you include new carbies, the above would be about 2.5-3K Aussie, not including any cosmetics, paint or muffler/exhaust mods. A reasonable FJ will likely be around 2-3K depending on your luck (NOT MINE!!!!! :) ).

Troyskie
1984 FJ1100 Ms Effie brand new :)
1984 FJ1100 Pearlie, stock as.
1985 FJ1100 Mr Effie 647,000K and still running hard.
1985 FJ1200 'Yummy' takes a licking & keeps on ticking
2013 Trumpy Tiger 800, let's do another lap of Oz

After all is said and done, more is said than done :)

wco56

Quote from: ribbert on July 24, 2021, 08:55:15 AM
This is certainly an achievement worth breaking radio silence to acknowledge.

Troy, your journey from novice to case splitter to bike builder was a ripper. On many an occasion it could have been, with reasonable grounds for doing so, pushed to the back of the garage and forgotten, but you kept at it.
I have seen the finished product in the flesh and it's a credit to you, the fact that just about every job was a first for you, even more so.




For some of the newer members that may not realise it, that is Troy and the bike in question.


The thrill of turning this (above) into a near showroom bike and the satisfaction of cruising down the road listening to the engine you built purring away, it never wears off.

Well done.

Noel