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Starter Clutch Failure

Started by aviationfred, December 28, 2020, 12:34:10 AM

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aviationfred

Well, my 95 left me stranded today. The starter clutch has been acting up over the last 6 months or so. Running an errand today, it failed to engage. :mad: :cray: The bike is at the garage and I will begin to pull the engine out.


Fred
I'm not the fastest FJ rider, I am 'half-fast', the fastest slow guy....

Current
2008 VFR800 RC46 Vtec
1996 VFR750 RC36/2
1990 FJ1300 (1297cc) Casper
1990 VFR750 RC36/1 Minnie
1989 FJ1200 Lazarus, the Streetfighter Project
1985 VF500F RC31 Interceptor

mike g

Quote from: aviationfred on December 28, 2020, 12:34:10 AM
Well, my 95 left me stranded today. The starter clutch has been acting up over the last 6 months or so. Running an errand today, it failed to engage. :mad: :cray: The bike is at the garage and I will begin to pull the engine out.


Fred
what forks swing arm and wheels are you using?
shame about the starter clutch btw

aviationfred

Quote from: mike g on December 28, 2020, 03:08:19 AM
Quote from: aviationfred on December 28, 2020, 12:34:10 AM
Well, my 95 left me stranded today. The starter clutch has been acting up over the last 6 months or so. Running an errand today, it failed to engage. :mad: :cray: The bike is at the garage and I will begin to pull the engine out.


Fred
what forks swing arm and wheels are you using?
shame about the starter clutch btw

Forks, front wheel, and calipers are from a 2008 Suzuki GSX-R1000. The swingarm is from a 2003 Yamaha FZ1/Fazer 1000. The rear wheel and caliper are from a 1998 Suzuki GSX-R1100


Fred
I'm not the fastest FJ rider, I am 'half-fast', the fastest slow guy....

Current
2008 VFR800 RC46 Vtec
1996 VFR750 RC36/2
1990 FJ1300 (1297cc) Casper
1990 VFR750 RC36/1 Minnie
1989 FJ1200 Lazarus, the Streetfighter Project
1985 VF500F RC31 Interceptor

T Legg

Fred could it be your 95 is acting up because of all the attention you have spent on Casper?
T Legg

aviationfred

Quote from: T Legg on December 28, 2020, 09:41:04 PM
Fred could it be your 95 is acting up because of all the attention you have spent on Casper?


:sarcastic: :rofl: :pardon: We got it over to the garage and on the lift. Turned on the ignition and it fired up the first time as if there was no problem.  :pardon:

I am still going to pull the engine and make repairs. I was fortunate that the failure to start was in town instead of being 100 miles out in the country.


Fred
I'm not the fastest FJ rider, I am 'half-fast', the fastest slow guy....

Current
2008 VFR800 RC46 Vtec
1996 VFR750 RC36/2
1990 FJ1300 (1297cc) Casper
1990 VFR750 RC36/1 Minnie
1989 FJ1200 Lazarus, the Streetfighter Project
1985 VF500F RC31 Interceptor

fj1289

Figures!

Any upgrades while you are in there?!

aviationfred

Quote from: fj1289 on December 29, 2020, 09:46:47 AM
Figures!

Any upgrades while you are in there?!

As much as I would love to, I can not at this time.


Fred
I'm not the fastest FJ rider, I am 'half-fast', the fastest slow guy....

Current
2008 VFR800 RC46 Vtec
1996 VFR750 RC36/2
1990 FJ1300 (1297cc) Casper
1990 VFR750 RC36/1 Minnie
1989 FJ1200 Lazarus, the Streetfighter Project
1985 VF500F RC31 Interceptor

fj1289

Yeah, that slippery slope can become a cliff real quick!

aviationfred

I got the engine out and parts ordered.



Fred
I'm not the fastest FJ rider, I am 'half-fast', the fastest slow guy....

Current
2008 VFR800 RC46 Vtec
1996 VFR750 RC36/2
1990 FJ1300 (1297cc) Casper
1990 VFR750 RC36/1 Minnie
1989 FJ1200 Lazarus, the Streetfighter Project
1985 VF500F RC31 Interceptor

aviationfred

I posted about this a few years ago. If you have to remove the oil pan for maintenance. Pull the Oil Pick up screen off and clean it. I am sure the oil pan has never been removed on this bike.

I have seen photos of the screen being so clogged with junk, that the suction from the oil pump actually pulls the screen away from the edges.


Fred
I'm not the fastest FJ rider, I am 'half-fast', the fastest slow guy....

Current
2008 VFR800 RC46 Vtec
1996 VFR750 RC36/2
1990 FJ1300 (1297cc) Casper
1990 VFR750 RC36/1 Minnie
1989 FJ1200 Lazarus, the Streetfighter Project
1985 VF500F RC31 Interceptor

T Legg

When I split my cases last October the gasket was stuck completely all the way around the pan. I'm guessing they must of used some kind of adhesive on it. I literally spent ten hours scraping the gasket off with a razor blade . I tried solvents and some kind of foaming gasket remover from permatex but nothing had any affect on it. Only manual scraping would do it. Removing the old gasket was by far the most difficult part of fixing my transmission.
T Legg

RPM - Robert

Quote from: aviationfred on December 29, 2020, 08:53:26 PM
I posted about this a few years ago. If you have to remove the oil pan for maintenance. Pull the Oil Pick up screen off and clean it. I am sure the oil pan has never been removed on this bike.

I have seen photos of the screen being so clogged with junk, that the suction from the oil pump actually pulls the screen away from the edges.


Fred

The complete starter clutch rebuild kit comes with a new screen, Fred. Just an FYI

Alf

Quote from: aviationfred on December 29, 2020, 08:53:26 PM

I have seen photos of the screen being so clogged with junk, that the suction from the oil pump actually pulls the screen away from the edges.

Fred

Mine was broken

FJ1200W

Sorry you have to go through this, but thrilled you're sharing the work.

I'm starting to think I should have changed or upgraded when I had the chance -

Any idea what caused the failure?
Steve
Columbia, Missouri
USA

FJmonkey

Was the engine cold when the starter clutch failed?
The glass is not half full, it was engineered with a 2X safety factor.

'86 Ambulance - Bent frame, cracked case, due for an overhaul
'89 Stormy Blue - Suits my Dark Side