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« Reply #30 on: December 19, 2020, 06:33:30 AM » |
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How many times have the experts predicted the end of oil? 
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'69 Honda Trail 90 '75 Honda CB400F '85 Yamaha RZ350 '85 Yamaha FJ1100 '89 Yamaha FJ1200 '09 Yamaha 125 Zuma '09 Kawasaki KZ110 (grand kids) '13 Suzuki GSXR 750 (track) '14 Yamaha FZ-09 '18 Suzuki GSXR 1000R (track) '23 Yamaha Tenere 7 SOLD: CBX,RZ500,Ninja 650,CB400F,V45 Sabre,CB700SC,R1
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RPM - Robert
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« Reply #31 on: December 19, 2020, 09:20:24 AM » |
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How many times have the experts predicted the end of oil?  11...? 
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Pat Conlon
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« Reply #32 on: December 19, 2020, 11:32:40 AM » |
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How many times have the experts predicted the end of oil?
About as many who predicted the end of coal..
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RPM - Robert
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« Reply #33 on: December 19, 2020, 11:42:11 AM » |
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How many times have the experts predicted the end of oil?
About as many who predicted the end of coal.. 3...? 
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Millietant
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« Reply #34 on: December 19, 2020, 12:08:29 PM » |
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Coal has ended here - the cooling towers of the last coal fired power station were demolished earlier this year and the use of coal ceased for generation a couple of years back.
Our coal mining industry has basically been demolished over the last 20 years. Back in 2010 I was in negotiations with the country's biggest mining company to take the reigns as the head of their Opencast mining operations. Part of the "package" we were discussing was a golden handshake,bonus and part-salary, all paid in shares and they wee telling me that they expected to make a £10m for the year, which was ending on the day of our discussions. 2 days later, when that profit suddenly turned into a £1m loss, that was the day I turned my back and walked away............... That was the first time I'd gone against my granny's advice to "never look a gift horse in the mouth".....and I'm very glad I did. Coal has been dead in the water here for at least 10years now and it's not coming back.
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Dean
'89 FJ 1200 3CV - owned from new. '89 FJ 1200 3CV - no engine, tank, seat....parts bike for the future. ‘88 FJ 1200 3CV - complete runner 2024 resto project '88 FJ 1200 3CV - became a race bike, no longer with us. '86 FJ 1200 1TX - sold to my boss to finance the '89 3CV I still own.
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Waiex191
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« Reply #35 on: December 19, 2020, 01:04:35 PM » |
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If we ever run out of oil just come over to my place. My $200 Buick leaks it all over but it never goes down on the dipstick.
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FJmonkey
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« Reply #36 on: December 19, 2020, 08:27:30 PM » |
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If we ever run out of oil just come over to my place. My $200 Buick leaks it all over but it never goes down on the dipstick.
Must have a 50 gallon sump....
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The glass is not half full, it was engineered with a 2X safety factor.
'86 Ambulance - Bent frame, cracked case, due for an overhaul '89 Stormy Blue - Suits my Dark Side
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ZOA NOM
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« Reply #37 on: December 20, 2020, 08:44:17 PM » |
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I submit that you can't burn it faster than it's created.
And you say this based on... what, exactly? A cup of oil will burn in a few minutes. A heap of plant matter will take weeks and moths to simply rot, and a lot longer than that to become oil. Even when the process is done artificially, such as thermal depolymerization, it takes a fair amount of time. Plus, it's not about burning every last drop. It's about using up what is easily and cheaply accessible. If it isn't cheap, it might as well not be there. I say this based on the debate... share your facts that disprove my theory.
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Rick
Current: 2010 Honda VFR1200 DCT (Full Auto!) 1993 FJ/GSXR 1200 (-ABS) 1987 Porsche 911 Carrera (Race) 1988 Porsche Carrera (Street) Previous: 1993 FJ1200 (FIREBALL) 1993 FJ1200ABS (RIP my collar bone) 1986 FZ750 1984 FJ600 1982 Seca
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T Legg
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« Reply #38 on: December 20, 2020, 10:33:46 PM » |
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This thread reminds me of something that happened last weekend in Abu-Dhabi at the final Formula 1 weekend of 2020. Fernando Alonso drought out his 15 year-old F1 car all three days for "nostalgia" laps for all those in attendance. The reaction is reverberating through the F1 world at what F1 has lost since the days of the V10 sounds. Calls for F1 to do something about its lost wow factor are increasing... https://youtu.be/Ltx15RVvF5A https://youtu.be/lal5UgVyiiU
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« Reply #39 on: December 21, 2020, 12:50:09 AM » |
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I say this based on the debate... share your facts that disprove my theory.
You don't have a theory. You have a random statement you made with nothing to support it. "based on the debate" is so vague, it really doesn't mean much. Your lack of any basis notwithstanding, I did share facts. They are right there in my post. You don't seem to be trying to disprove them, though.
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1993 FJ1200 ABS
1984 FJ600, up on blocks
1986 FJ1200, flaming wreck, repaired and sold 1986 FJ1200, repaired, ridden, sold
I don't want a pickle I just want to ride my motorcicle
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Millietant
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« Reply #40 on: December 21, 2020, 03:19:21 AM » |
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I say this based on the debate... share your facts that disprove my theory.
You don't have a theory. You have a random statement you made with nothing to support it. "based on the debate" is so vague, it really doesn't mean much. Your lack of any basis notwithstanding, I did share facts. They are right there in my post. You don't seem to be trying to disprove them, though. And that's how the fight started........................... 
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Dean
'89 FJ 1200 3CV - owned from new. '89 FJ 1200 3CV - no engine, tank, seat....parts bike for the future. ‘88 FJ 1200 3CV - complete runner 2024 resto project '88 FJ 1200 3CV - became a race bike, no longer with us. '86 FJ 1200 1TX - sold to my boss to finance the '89 3CV I still own.
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ZOA NOM
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« Reply #41 on: December 21, 2020, 08:28:10 AM » |
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I say this based on the debate... share your facts that disprove my theory.
You don't have a theory. You have a random statement you made with nothing to support it. "based on the debate" is so vague, it really doesn't mean much. Your lack of any basis notwithstanding, I did share facts. They are right there in my post. You don't seem to be trying to disprove them, though. And that's how the fight started...........................   It's funny, the attack never varies. He's consistent, I'll give him that. Anyway, the article I linked above seems to do everything BUT refute or disprove my "random statement with nothing to support it". I believe the comment I made was an invitation to discuss the issue, especially as it relates to all the money and effort our society seems to be investing in the electric vehicle field. I realize that a controversial statement about the unlimited availability of oil might not ever be uttered by the folks who need it to seem finite, but that doesn't mean it's true. I'm anxiously awaiting any facts to suggest that the earth's processes responsible for oil creation are indeed outpaced by our usage.
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Rick
Current: 2010 Honda VFR1200 DCT (Full Auto!) 1993 FJ/GSXR 1200 (-ABS) 1987 Porsche 911 Carrera (Race) 1988 Porsche Carrera (Street) Previous: 1993 FJ1200 (FIREBALL) 1993 FJ1200ABS (RIP my collar bone) 1986 FZ750 1984 FJ600 1982 Seca
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