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Koso Apollo Heated grips from RPM

Started by aviationfred, December 08, 2020, 05:00:06 PM

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Bones

Quote from: ribbert on December 10, 2020, 05:33:51 AM
Quote from: Bones on December 10, 2020, 04:45:55 AM

.... with the heat turned right up and up to temp, they get that hot you can't put a bare hand on the grips.


Tony, you live in QL, that could apply to the entire bike in Summer.

Noel

That's true Noel, last Sunday it was 36deg up in the mountains of the Sunshine Coast hinterland. In all honesty, the grips don't get turned on much at all, haven't done any long rides in winter for a few years now.
93 fj1200
79 suzuki gt250x7


Too young to be old but old enough to know better.

Paul.1478

Quote from: aviationfred on December 08, 2020, 05:00:06 PM
I took advantage of the Holiday sale at RPM and picked up another set of the Koso Apollo heated grips.

With cold weather setting in on most of North America and Europe. Casper was the only one left without headed grips. Now all 3 will be a bit more comfortable in temps down into the 40's and 30's.

Installation is easy and straight forward. One thing on the installation that i do a bit different is.... on the throttle tube, I use a utility knife and score the throttle tube both length wise and around the circumference. Also, I have found that the included super glue adhesive does not work very well once you start using the heat. I have had very good performance from Renthal Grip Glue. I know many use hair spray for regular grips. That does not work at all for these heated grips.

Fred
I like them a LOT. they are going to go well with my heated gloves from RPM. I am going to order now.

Thanks !
2006 GL1800
2022 Ducati V2
1976 RD400
1993 FJ 1200 ABS

Paul.1478

2006 GL1800
2022 Ducati V2
1976 RD400
1993 FJ 1200 ABS

RPM - Robert

Quote from: Paul.1478 on December 11, 2020, 12:49:36 PM
My luck. out of stock...

They are on backorder with the supplier. I have several sets on order and they are scheduled back in stock around 12/21. Once they get them in, the automatically ship to us

aviationfred

Quote from: Paul.1478 on December 11, 2020, 12:48:32 PM
Quote from: aviationfred on December 08, 2020, 05:00:06 PM
I took advantage of the Holiday sale at RPM and picked up another set of the Koso Apollo heated grips.

With cold weather setting in on most of North America and Europe. Casper was the only one left without headed grips. Now all 3 will be a bit more comfortable in temps down into the 40's and 30's.

Installation is easy and straight forward. One thing on the installation that i do a bit different is.... on the throttle tube, I use a utility knife and score the throttle tube both length wise and around the circumference. Also, I have found that the included super glue adhesive does not work very well once you start using the heat. I have had very good performance from Renthal Grip Glue. I know many use hair spray for regular grips. That does not work at all for these heated grips.

Fred
I like them a LOT. they are going to go well with my heated gloves from RPM. I am going to order now.

Thanks !


The Fly Racing Ignitor Pro gloves are a game changer for riding in colder weather. I had never considered heated gloves. While at the RPM rally last year, Randy showed me the gloves and he had high praises for them. I would have purchased a pair right then. He was out of stock in my size. I did place the order. The gloves do not have heated palms and the Koso grips do a great job providing heat to the palms of your hands.


Fred
I'm not the fastest FJ rider, I am 'half-fast', the fastest slow guy....

Current
2008 VFR800 RC46 Vtec
1996 VFR750 RC36/2
1990 FJ1300 (1297cc) Casper
1990 VFR750 RC36/1 Minnie
1989 FJ1200 Lazarus, the Streetfighter Project
1985 VF500F RC31 Interceptor

ZOA NOM

So let me get this straight... You guys are connecting your heated grips directly to the battery, and relying on the Oxford's circuitry to keep your battery from draining? Can somebody explain why you would need your grips warm without the bike running?
Rick

Current:
2010 Honda VFR1200 DCT (Full Auto!)
1993 FJ/GSXR 1200 (-ABS)
1987 Porsche 911 Carrera (Race)
1988 Porsche Carrera (Street)
Previous:
1993 FJ1200 (FIREBALL)
1993 FJ1200ABS (RIP my collar bone)
1986 FZ750
1984 FJ600
1982 Seca

Pat Conlon

Rick, yes, the Oxford connects directly to the battery and the power automatically shuts off the grip heaters when the alternator signal stops. You can turn them off manually, but if you forget, they will only run for 1 minute after your alternator stops.

The issue isn't needing to run the grip heaters when the bike is off....no need to do that, your switched circuit takes care of that, as does the Oxford shut off.....rather the issue is the direct wiring and not running any additional amperage thru my 36 year old system.

As Red points out, the same thing can be accomplished with the Apollo's and a relay.



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ZOA NOM

Ok. That makes sense if there's an alternator sensor. I agree that you don't want that current load going through your ignition switch. The Apollos come with a relay.
Rick

Current:
2010 Honda VFR1200 DCT (Full Auto!)
1993 FJ/GSXR 1200 (-ABS)
1987 Porsche 911 Carrera (Race)
1988 Porsche Carrera (Street)
Previous:
1993 FJ1200 (FIREBALL)
1993 FJ1200ABS (RIP my collar bone)
1986 FZ750
1984 FJ600
1982 Seca

ribbert

With the sort of riding I do, I've never been one to sacrifice function in favour of form, but there's a limit.

These things (heated) work a treat but at the cost of looking like a pizza delivery guy.



I've tried them out, they really are good but they'll never grace my bike!

Noel
"Tell a wise man something he doesn't know and he'll thank you, tell a fool something he doesn't know and he'll abuse you"

Waiex191

I used to have a set of hippo hands, very similar but unheated.  I used them on my GN400 for the brutally cold commuting days.
Bryan
1989 FJ1200
1981 Suzuki GN400
Poplar Grove, IL
 

ribbert

Quote from: Waiex191 on December 12, 2020, 09:17:16 AM
I used to have a set of hippo hands, very similar but unheated.  I used them on my GN400 for the brutally cold commuting days.

I think if I was commuting daily in the cold I would very quickly warm to the appearance of them, and just cop the pizza delivery jokes. They are comforting like warming your hands in front of an open fire.

Noel
"Tell a wise man something he doesn't know and he'll thank you, tell a fool something he doesn't know and he'll abuse you"

Waiex191

Besides the hippo hands, I put an awful clear fairing on the GN. Plus I'd wear ski pants and a ski mask under my helmet. It was still cold. Now I just take the car. Too old for that foolishness.
Bryan
1989 FJ1200
1981 Suzuki GN400
Poplar Grove, IL
 

ZOA NOM

I don't mind the cold at all. I wear a Firstgear one-piece thermal suit over my work attire and pop it into the V40 Givi Top Case when I get there in the morning. The warmer afternoon commute jacket is swapped for it on my way home. I don't mind cold, as long as there's no fog. That shit is a great way to get killed on a bike.

The Firstgear Suit :

Rick

Current:
2010 Honda VFR1200 DCT (Full Auto!)
1993 FJ/GSXR 1200 (-ABS)
1987 Porsche 911 Carrera (Race)
1988 Porsche Carrera (Street)
Previous:
1993 FJ1200 (FIREBALL)
1993 FJ1200ABS (RIP my collar bone)
1986 FZ750
1984 FJ600
1982 Seca

Millietant

I don't mind the cold - as long as it's  not cold and wet a thing the same time - the road salt that's put down here during winter is a real pain in the #ss when it gets rained on and turn into a corrosion causing spray that gets everywhere.

If it gets extra cold, then I wear my wet suit dungarees under my 2 piece textile suit (with the thermal inner liners in place). That thing keeps me toasty in any temperatures and I always feel like wearing that 5mm thick neoprene suit underneath, will give some extra cushioning should I ever fall off in those conditions.
Dean

'89 FJ 1200 3CV - owned from new.
'89 FJ 1200 3CV - no engine, tank, seat....parts bike for the future.
'88 FJ 1200 3CV - complete runner 2024 resto project
'88 FJ 1200 3CV - became a race bike, no longer with us.
'86 FJ 1200 1TX - sold to my boss to finance the '89 3CV I still own.

ribbert

Quote from: Millietant on December 14, 2020, 03:53:28 AM

.... the road salt that's put down here during winter is a real pain in the #ss when it gets rained on and turn into a corrosion causing spray that gets everywhere.


Dean, one of my niche specialties for a long time has been pre war cars and I have prepared many a vehicle over the years for repatriation to the UK. Built in an era when rust prohibitors were unheard of, examples brought here when new or early in their life could now be 50-100 years old and still rust and corrosion free (they used a lot of alloy). This makes them very coveted cars that attract premium prices in the UK and worth shipping "home".

I sometimes look at photos of bikes and parts for sale in the UK and can't believe the corrosion.

Perhaps it's not fair to mention this, but yesterday I went riding in the country, 30c/86f deg, cloudless blues skies, lush growth everywhere and a light breeze heavily laden with the smell of Spring and Summer - magnificent!

I don't like riding in the peak of Summer and will use the time between Christmas and the end of January to carry out my annual maintenance, which consists of not riding the FJ for 6 weeks.  :biggrin:

Our financial year ends June 30, unlike the US, so there is no pressure anywhere and the whole commercial world just about shuts down over that time and it feels like the entire country is on holidays, not a time to be hitting the roads. Minimum annual leave here is a month, plus accrued public holidays, days in lieu etc padding it out even further, some jobs such as Police and other emergency services getting 6 weeks paid leave and because of our weather over Christmas, everyone goes on holiday, mostly to the coast.

Noel
"Tell a wise man something he doesn't know and he'll thank you, tell a fool something he doesn't know and he'll abuse you"