Watch out riders ! fuc%# brainless monkeys on their phone while driving

[Old Rider]

Two days in a row i have almost getting run down head to head collision by brainless drivers sitting with their mobilephone in one
hand in front of their face wearing earplugs most likely listening to music at high volume and  deeply consentrated looking down at their phone.
First time it was a Toyota prius coming straight at me More and more over in my lane luckily the speedlimit at the street was very low
i Used the horn but no responce from the guy driving then he came all the way into my lane an i had to stop squeezed into the parked
cars at my side of the road. He almost hit me while i was on the horn and just passed me .I made a U-turn and catched up with him on red light in the next intersection .He was a arab /muslim looking guy in his twenties i knocked on his window while he was still locking down on his
phone.i knocked harder with my fist saying some bad words then he just locked up at me with a total carless calm expression and then looking down on his phone again.I then exploded and what happened is better not writing

Next day i was driving in a low speed street again and this time i met a white Volvo stationvagon drifting over in my lane behind the wheel was a young girl with White earplugs hypnotized looking down at here phone in here hand.Mayby she was looking for likes on her blog  ??  This time i also used my horn but no reaction from her i got more space this time so she passed by me with more clearance that the guy the day before this time i did not follow her just riding along in disbelief.

I also had several other close calls whith brainless monkeys looking down on ther phone (yes you are a monkey if you do) it seem to happend mostly when there is little trafic so they think that its a good time to sit on their phone.
So the rule that while on a motorcycle cars never ever sees you really is true these days watch out!
I think its time to mount my car dashcam on my bike.
i can add that while im driving my car i NEVER EVER use my phone if i have too i stop

[T Legg]

We need to come up with an air horn for motorcycles that is as loud as one on a diesel truck. I think they would look up if they thought a truck was about to hit them.                       
I never take it personal especially on my motorycle it can get you killed over here but I can understand how you feel.

[Old Rider]

We need to come up with an air horn for motorcycles that is as loud as one on a diesel truck. I think they would look up if they thought a truck was about to hit them.                        
I never take it personal especially on my motorycle it can get you killed over here but I can understand how you feel.

i have been thinking about that i did find a siren on ebay sounding like a old firetruck but i don't know if its loud enough a police siren
would have helped =)
Before they used to sell spraycan airhorn here in norway but haven seen them lately
usually i ignore idiots on phone while driving but this time all the factors involved made me fire on all sparks.

[Old Rider]

Here are some videos i found after doing a search on youtube  even cop driving texting and crashin

even police on their phone driving
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pccGggeW7Y

sad video 3 killed by cellphone driver
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdDKHiO0Xzo

Warning ugly
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvDMzbgBqB0

Young girl with a kid in backseatcrashing while texting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJB9WQhEXY0

[FJ Flyer]

Here are some videos i found after doing a search on youtube  even cop driving texting and crashin

even police on their phone driving

I've had cops pass me on the way home from work while typing on their laptops and on their phones.

[ribbert]

We need to come up with an air horn for motorcycles that is as loud as one on a diesel truck. I think they would look up if they thought a truck was about to hit them.                       
I never take it personal especially on my motorycle it can get you killed over here but I can understand how you feel.

I live in the centre of a city of 5 million people, so wherever my destination, I have a lot of traffic to get through first. Having adopted the "I'm invisible" attitude and assuming every vehicle within striking distance is on a mission to kill me, I find I rarely put myself in a situation where I need my horn to warn off vehicles, and here, we lane split/filter everywhere. If I rode my bike with the attitude I drive my car, I'd be on the horn constantly. Actually, I'd probably be dead!

However, bikes do seem to come with terrible horns. I gave up on the air horns after two sets and much servicing and lubricating and fitted a pair of the best car horns I've ever used, Volvo 240 (and probably 7 series). I have a pair of them mounted in the OEM position and running from a relay, they are amazingly penetrating in a sea of other traffic noises.




Noel

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i have been thinking about that i did find a siren on ebay sounding like a old firetruck but i don't know if its loud enough a police siren would have helped =)  Before they used to sell spraycan airhorn here in norway but haven seen them lately

Old Rider,

You can buy the remedy, on-line. 

I believe it is just a case of simple addition:       

aerosol air horn



PLUS  Vuvuzela Stadium Horn



                            
.

[Mike 86 in San Dimas]

Your right and they are wrong. Phone use by drivers is epidemic. Fortunately you are being aware and attentive, we must be be. We are just too vulnerable. I commute  45 miles in traffic everyday so been there too. Please dont take offense when I say, be careful with the road rage it  can lead to another bad scene.

[fj-f3a]

I think its time to mount my car dashcam on my bike.

The first video shows exactly I have a Rear Facing camera mounted to both my FJ and RS.

Rear camera on my FJ


Rear camera on my RS


My Helmet Cam


They will not prevent the accident, but they supply invaluable evidence in case of an accident.

May I reiterate, they are out to get you.

Gavin.

[Old Rider]

I took my motorcycle licence on heavy bikes in 1986 and have been riding heavy bikes since that before that i was mostly on smaller bikes and dirt
bikes.I had a few crashes all before 1990 "knock on wood"  some was my fault being young and dumb others was not my faults

First time was a very old lady coming in opposite direction in a intersection driving on a red light arrow pulled infront of me i was on green i had no chance avoiding her and had a head on collision both her car and my bike was totaled luckily i got minor damage only had to go to hospital taking a ct of my head
because my helmet was cracked sew a few stitches on my ass and a some broken small bones in my foot
Aftermath on this is i could have drived a little slower in the intersection and had a lighter inpact

Second time i was a drunk driver pulling out in front of me from a gas station a early sunday morning i was on a mainroad i thought he had seen me but when i was maybe 6 meters from him he pulled right out and i had no chance avoiding him luckily it was a little pickup hand i aimed for the back of the car hit him and converted to a bird flying over him landing down the road .The driver was a Harley Davidson guy which was a member of a MC club named company MC riders on his back.he came over to me asking ho i was i told him i was not so good and that he had broken traffic regulation. As i was laying on the ground He poited his finger on me and said that i should not try on anything stupid and then he drunkwalked back to his car an took off.
there was no cellphones back then so i crawled back to gas station and called the cops i was not hurt bad but had big pain in my hips.
Atermath on this i could have drived slower and not trust that he had seen me
.
third time i was overtaking a car hand pulled away from him at a little high speed  i did not notice but guy in the car tryed too keep up and further up the road a car in front of me braked hard because another car pulled out in front of him and i had to brake real hard to stop because there was no escape route and oncoming traffic. when i had come to a stop only inches from the car in front of me i heard heavy whining  from tires sliding on tarmac and in that millisecond i realized what it was and there was a big bang the bike was shoot out of my hands hitting the car in front then up in the air.i ended up sitting on the trunk of the car that hit me but amazingly was unharmed only lower backpain.
Aftermath on this should have looked better in the mirrors but then i would had hit te car infornt of me the best would have been driving slower


forth time was all my fault  me being silly doing a wheelie then i got too much speed entering a T intersection as the bike came down and i understood that it was no way i cold make the 90 degree turn  in the intersection and had no choice than to lay down the bike and hitting the curb .There was some people that came running towards me from the busstation at the place i did not want to talk with them =)then adrenalin kicked in and threw the bike up and did a fast exit.when i looked at my leg longer down the road my pants was ripped and had nasty hole on the side of my calf .when home i saw the hole was going right thru my calf muscle but i felt no pain at all.I figured out it was coming from the brake pedal that
had snapped on the tip and penetrated my leg.The strange thin was i never felt pain in the leg and it took very long time before the wound healed.
Aftermath on this young and dumb

fifth time also being super silly  young & dumb another wheelie in front of a bus station at my way to work lost it going around that time i did not get hurt physically only my pride and it was very embarrassing as i picked up parts from my bike laying in the road
Aftermath on this young and dumb

sixth :a lady infront of me used her blinker to the right but when i was passing her on the left she pulled left infact i think that was partly my fault trusting that she was going right .
Aftermath on this should not have trusted the car blinkers and not drive past it before it started to turn

Since then i had no more accidents my driving strategy is  always drive like cars are out to kill me and that a car never see you even if it looks like the driver has his eyes on you. slow down in intersections . i used too split lanes when i was Young but never do that anymore.I also try keeping far away from any car
Very rare i have to use my horn but as with the cellphone zombies the other day coming straight against me and i have no chance to avoid him because of parked cars on my right side then its time to use the horn =) i almost jumped off the bike.

Ribbert : That Volvo 240 horns looks like a good idea I'm not good when it comes to electrical stuff and wonder why you must have a relay and  
what kind og relay is used??

Red: that gashorn is nice only problem is i cant figure out how to mount it in a place i can reach the knob fast
The vuvuzela stadiumhorn is excellent as a baton to teach zombie cellphone drivers a lesson !!

fj-f3a : that cam setup looks brilliant!

[ribbert]

..... always drive like cars are out to kill me and that a car never see you even if it looks like the driver has his eyes on you. slow down in intersections ....I also try keeping far away from any car.....


Ribbert : That Volvo 240 horns looks like a good idea I'm not good when it comes to electrical stuff and wonder why you must have a relay and  
what kind og relay is used??

That's great advice, especially the driver that appears to be looking straight at you, when in fact, he is looking straight past you. That one even catches out old dogs still.

A relay is not essential but guarantees it's getting full battery voltage. It's not uncommon to see a drop of up to a couple of volts as power makes it's way around the bike before getting to the horn and other voltage sensitive items such as ignition coils, headlight etc. Powering these items through relays is a common mod on our FJ's and standard fare on more modern vehicles.

Noel

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I took my motorcycle licence on heavy bikes in 1986 and have been riding heavy bikes since that before that i was mostly on smaller bikes and dirt bikes.
Ribbert : That Volvo 240 horns looks like a good idea I'm not good when it comes to electrical stuff and wonder why you must have a relay and  
what kind og relay is used??
Red: that gashorn is nice only problem is i cant figure out how to mount it in a place i can reach the knob fast
The vuvuzela stadiumhorn is excellent as a baton to teach zombie cellphone drivers a lesson

Old Rider,

The gas horn was just a joke, really.  I know it's not practical, but I have seen bikes with one taped to the handlebars - which seems more dangerous  to me because you need both hands, not a horn, when things get dicey on a bike.

A relay may look complicated, but it is not.  A relay is just a switch, very simple.  The switch get flipped by a magnet-coil, not by a finger, that's all.  Aside from the advantage of possibly having stronger horns installed (which maybe would melt the bike wiring), the second advantage is money.  The stock horn button at the handlebars will last forever, just switching a relay, because relay coils draw very little power.  Switches do not like DC power, even on a bike.  Stock FJ handlebar switches are expensive, if you can even find one for the FJ.  That "relay mod" means you can easily change out a cheap common relay, not the expensive -rare- FJ handlebar switch, if necessary, when the horn quits working.  Horn relays very seldom fail anyway, because they are built to take the punishment.  That puny handlebar switch is barely adequate to blow the stock horn, but it's plenty strong enough to run a relay that can blow bigger horns.  PM me (or do a Search on the bike forums) if you want to proceed with a horn relay mod.  It's not hard, and some riders do the same trick to run their headlights, making their headlights brighter with less load on the stock bike wiring.  HTH.

[movenon]

One mounted on each side.  Yes they are loud.  Relay controlled. Old picture. Since then I have removed the running lights and bumpers.  

[ribbert]

One mounted on each side.  Yes they are loud.  Relay controlled. Old picture. Since then I have removed the running lights and bumpers.  

OK, George wins, and it appears from the photo he knocks the ball out of the park in a few other categories as well.  What a magnificent example of an FJ.


Noel

[ribbert]

We need to come up with an air horn for motorcycles that is as loud as one on a diesel truck. I think they would look up if they thought a truck was about to hit them.                        

It's funny you say that "I think they would look up if they thought a truck was about to hit them"  I'm sure they would, but they'd be looking for a truck, not a bike. I often wondered when I had the air horns fitted if a sudden blast would have them subconsciously looking around for a vehicle they associated with that horn, a truck for example, and take me out while they're looking for it.

When a large vehicle horn scares the shit out of you, you are not looking around for a motorbike, you're looking for the Kenworth that's about to drive right over the top of you.

Having said that, I think a loud horn is a great asset but has some drawbacks, that is, motorists associate certain horns with certain types of vehicle and on hearing it will scan for that vehicle. If you hear a truck horn, you ignore the Hyundai next to you and keep looking for the truck.

Noel