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1986-88 1TX overheating

Started by Alf, March 01, 2020, 03:39:33 PM

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Pat Conlon

Quote from: FJ_Hooligan on March 03, 2020, 05:22:33 PM
Rereading that cam timing thread brought back old memories, both good and bad.

Yes, that was a tough time for you David. However, you pulled through like the kick ass Texan you are.
We are most fortunate to have you with us.
1) Free Owners Manual download: https://tinyurl.com/fmsz7hk9
2) Don't store your FJ with E10 fuel https://tinyurl.com/3cjrfct5
3) Replace your old stock rubber brake lines.
4) Important items for the '84-87 FJ's:
Safety wire: https://tinyurl.com/99zp8ufh
Fuel line: https://tinyurl.com/bdff9bf3

fj1289

Quote from: aviationfred on March 03, 2020, 05:30:56 PM
I did a conversion for your oil temp. 120°C = 248°F. During the summer and riding in my area, the temps easily get to be 95-105°F and the oil temp will often reach 124°C/255°F while sitting in traffic. I have been told by Randy and Robert that these high temps are ok. The Legends racecars often run 127°C/260°F while at WOT on the track. I personally would say things are ok on the 1TX.

Fred

Agreed.  Randy had some concerns over the oil temps on the race bike - concerned they weren't high enough!

I'm thinking the 3CV May have an issue with running too cool ...

Alf

Quote from: Pat Conlon on March 03, 2020, 04:06:45 PM
Cam timing modification: I did ask this question 11 years ago, here's the post:

http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?topic=712.0

Speaking of cam timing....Alf, have you verified that your current cam timing is correct?
Sometimes the cam chain can stretch and get the cam timing off....

Cam chain, guides and tensioner are new

Alf

Quote from: fj1289 on March 04, 2020, 12:40:43 AM
Quote from: aviationfred on March 03, 2020, 05:30:56 PM

I'm thinking the 3CV May have an issue with running too cool ...

As far as I know and like Randy has written in another post, 90-115ºC is the optimum oil temperature range

Troyskie

Alf, I am a novice MC enthusiast, (please educate me), however, temp described are chart extreme, but still in range. if in range FINE.
Even 10% out, FINE. As long as the out of range is not too far for too long, so what?
When our bikes were QC checked they ran them from start to red-line then shut down. The bikes didn't even get to temp on start.
The ranges are just a warranty range for service. the bikes will do fine a bit either side for not too long.
I doubt Darko's bike in Croatia (1.3mil km) has run factory temps its whole life
1984 FJ1100 Ms Effie brand new :)
1984 FJ1100 Pearlie, stock as.
1985 FJ1100 Mr Effie 647,000K and still running hard.
1985 FJ1200 'Yummy' takes a licking & keeps on ticking
2013 Trumpy Tiger 800, let's do another lap of Oz

After all is said and done, more is said than done :)

Troyskie

Quote from: fj1289 on March 04, 2020, 12:40:43 AM
I'm thinking the 3CV May have an issue with running too cool ...
This is what i meant
1984 FJ1100 Ms Effie brand new :)
1984 FJ1100 Pearlie, stock as.
1985 FJ1100 Mr Effie 647,000K and still running hard.
1985 FJ1200 'Yummy' takes a licking & keeps on ticking
2013 Trumpy Tiger 800, let's do another lap of Oz

After all is said and done, more is said than done :)

Troyskie

This is the ad i saw, on FJowners whilst not being distracted........
1984 FJ1100 Ms Effie brand new :)
1984 FJ1100 Pearlie, stock as.
1985 FJ1100 Mr Effie 647,000K and still running hard.
1985 FJ1200 'Yummy' takes a licking & keeps on ticking
2013 Trumpy Tiger 800, let's do another lap of Oz

After all is said and done, more is said than done :)

oldktmdude

Quote from: Troyskie on March 04, 2020, 04:30:44 AM
This is the ad i saw, on FJowners whilst not being distracted........

The one on the right seems to be running a bit colder than the one on the left!
1985 FJ1100 x2 (1 sold)
2009 TDM 900
1980 Kawasaki Z1R Mk11 (sold and still regretting it)
1979 Kawasaki Z650 (sold)
1985 Suzuki GSXR 400 x2 (next project)
2001 KTM 520 exc (sold)
2004 GasGas Ec300
1981 Honda CB 900 F (sold)
1989 Kawasaki GPX 600 Adventure

Alf

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Troyskie: Thanks for your coments... and the pic  :yahoo:
If I dont own my 3CV I will be not worried... well, not sure. In fact my friend Mingo´s 86-88 run always at the same temperature side to side with my 3cv
His settings: restricted cans (like OE), all STD in carbs except Dynojet needles (yes, with STD mains) and KN filter in OE box

Consider that I´m speaking of extreme ridings. The rest of the time, between 5-10ºC hotter than my 3CV, but ok. In traffic, both dont get 120ºC. This summer, travelling in Andalucia with 45ºC hot, no traffic, secundary order but fast roads (120-160), my 3CV was running at 98-100ºC, better that myself

And yes, I think that I´m going to adopt the Danko solution: no oil temperature gauge :D