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PROJECT 92

Started by Urban_Legend, August 20, 2019, 07:45:04 PM

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X-Ray

This trip is also going to be a getaway anniversary road trip for us, and we had not planned to go through Grafton twice, just going via inland route. If it helps Mark, and David gets his frame to Troys then we can make a detour on the way back and drop it off for you.
'94 FJ1200 Wet Pale Brown
'93 FJ1200 Dark Violet/Silver
'84 FJ1100 Red/White

'91 FJ1200 Dark Violet/Silver ( Now Sold)
'92 FJ1200 Project/Resto Dark Violet/Silver (Now Sold)






For photos of my rear wheel swap, heres the link  https://www.flickr.com/gp/150032671@N02/62k3KZ

ribbert

Mark, having seen two of these myself, and yours makes three, I'd actually have a preference for the welded frame over one that hasn't cracked - yet!

I know it's not common and the chances of the next one blah blah blah..... but given the difficulty in getting the frame there it might be worth thinking a little more about having it welded. Even my shitty welding has lasted longer than the factory weld ever did.

Logistics aside, welding is in my opinion the better of the two options anyway.

Noel
"Tell a wise man something he doesn't know and he'll thank you, tell a fool something he doesn't know and he'll abuse you"

Troyskie

Mark, I'm with Noel & Pete on this. My bro had a cracked frame welded back in the late 80's (1100). That bike had about 30k on it at the time. It now has about 700k and the weld is still fine.
1984 FJ1100 Ms Effie brand new :)
1984 FJ1100 Pearlie, stock as.
1985 FJ1100 Mr Effie 647,000K and still running hard.
1985 FJ1200 'Yummy' takes a licking & keeps on ticking
2013 Trumpy Tiger 800, let's do another lap of Oz

After all is said and done, more is said than done :)

Urban_Legend

Thank you all for your advice. I will probably get the frame repaired so I can keep the bike matching numbers. However I will still get the spare frame off Diesel Dave, just in case.

Mark
Mark
My Baby (Sparkles)
84 FJ1100/1200 motor
92 FJ 1200 - Project bike. Finished and sold.
84 FJ1100 - Project bike.

Millietant

Mark/urban Legend - if you want a lift table and have some very basic welding skills, I could send you the drawings/sketches for mine and the measurements.

It utilises a basic 2 tonne car trolley jack, but is really sturdy and stable. Let me know if you want me to send you some details. All in, I'd guess it would cost less than $100
Dean

'89 FJ 1200 3CV - owned from new.
'89 FJ 1200 3CV - no engine, tank, seat....parts bike for the future.
'88 FJ 1200 3CV - complete runner 2024 resto project
'88 FJ 1200 3CV - became a race bike, no longer with us.
'86 FJ 1200 1TX - sold to my boss to finance the '89 3CV I still own.

ribbert

Quote from: Millietant on September 19, 2019, 08:35:07 AM
Mark/urban Legend - if you want a lift table and have some very basic welding skills, I could send you the drawings/sketches for mine and the measurements.

It utilises a basic 2 tonne car trolley jack, but is really sturdy and stable. Let me know if you want me to send you some details. All in, I'd guess it would cost less than $100


Dean, I was really impressed with your lift table and saved the photos intending to build one. It was the best and simplest home built unit I have seen. If you have any details, measurements etc, they would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

Noel
"Tell a wise man something he doesn't know and he'll thank you, tell a fool something he doesn't know and he'll abuse you"

Urban_Legend

Hi All

Small update. I haven't done much on the 92 for a while, so today I decided to finally extract my digit and get the crack in the frame fixed. It comes in handy having a mate who is a boiler maker by trade.  It only took him about 10 minutes to grind out and mig weld the crack.  While we were at it we decided to  grind out and weld the other side of the frame as a precaution.

Now that this has been done, it means that I can now start getting the frame cleaned up for painting and begin the  long job of reassembly.

Mark
Mark
My Baby (Sparkles)
84 FJ1100/1200 motor
92 FJ 1200 - Project bike. Finished and sold.
84 FJ1100 - Project bike.

Millietant

Quote from: ribbert on September 19, 2019, 08:52:35 AM
Quote from: Millietant on September 19, 2019, 08:35:07 AM
Mark/urban Legend - if you want a lift table and have some very basic welding skills, I could send you the drawings/sketches for mine and the measurements.

It utilises a basic 2 tonne car trolley jack, but is really sturdy and stable. Let me know if you want me to send you some details. All in, I'd guess it would cost less than $100


Dean, I was really impressed with your lift table and saved the photos intending to build one. It was the best and simplest home built unit I have seen. If you have any details, measurements etc, they would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

Noel

Hey Noel - I missed your post when you wrote it, but have just noticed it today - i've PM'd you the sketches and measurements - 7 pictures in all.

Hope you get the bench built and get many years of use out of it - I love mine  :good2:
Dean

'89 FJ 1200 3CV - owned from new.
'89 FJ 1200 3CV - no engine, tank, seat....parts bike for the future.
'88 FJ 1200 3CV - complete runner 2024 resto project
'88 FJ 1200 3CV - became a race bike, no longer with us.
'86 FJ 1200 1TX - sold to my boss to finance the '89 3CV I still own.

fj1289

Quote from: Millietant on January 11, 2020, 09:17:00 AM
Quote from: ribbert on September 19, 2019, 08:52:35 AM
Quote from: Millietant on September 19, 2019, 08:35:07 AM
Mark/urban Legend - if you want a lift table and have some very basic welding skills, I could send you the drawings/sketches for mine and the measurements.

It utilises a basic 2 tonne car trolley jack, but is really sturdy and stable. Let me know if you want me to send you some details. All in, I'd guess it would cost less than $100


Dean, I was really impressed with your lift table and saved the photos intending to build one. It was the best and simplest home built unit I have seen. If you have any details, measurements etc, they would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

Noel

Hey Noel - I missed your post when you wrote it, but have just noticed it today - i've PM'd you the sketches and measurements - 7 pictures in all.

Hope you get the bench built and get many years of use out of it - I love mine  :good2:

Dean,

Is this something you can post in the fjowners tools section?  I'm sure there are several people that would love to build their own lift.  If not, can you please PM the drawings/pictures/plans.  Thanks!

Chris

racerrad8

Quote from: fj1289 on January 11, 2020, 03:52:37 PM
Dean,

Is this something you can post in the fjowners tools section?  I'm sure there are several people that would love to build their own lift.  If not, can you please PM the drawings/pictures/plans.  Thanks!

Chris

Chris, the drawings are posted in the galley section.

Maybe we can get a file built with the details.

Randy - RPM
Randy - RPM

Millietant

Hi Chris,

As Randy has noted, I put the photo's of the sketches in the Gallery so I could include them in a PM.

TBH, my only concern is that someone with less than stellar welding skills, does a botch job and then blames me if it fails, for putting the sketches in the public domain - so I'll say this here and now; I can offer no guarantees re the table lift nor accept any liability/responsibility in case of any failure/accident (I'm not a business and I don't make money from this), but I've been using my ramp to these sketches, for years now with no failures - I suppose the one thing I do need to re-iterate is that I use a bungee hook to hold up the security/fixing leg when I lower the ramp from its "up" position; failure to do so could possibly result in trapped fingers (i haven't trapped mine yet, but trying to hold the leg up and lower the table at the same time is not something want to try) - and I always release the pressure to lower the jack very slowly - common sense really.

Hope this helps and is OK.
Dean

'89 FJ 1200 3CV - owned from new.
'89 FJ 1200 3CV - no engine, tank, seat....parts bike for the future.
'88 FJ 1200 3CV - complete runner 2024 resto project
'88 FJ 1200 3CV - became a race bike, no longer with us.
'86 FJ 1200 1TX - sold to my boss to finance the '89 3CV I still own.

fj1289

Thanks Dean!

Agreed - there are too many idiots in this world that won't  take responsibility for their own actions and want to blame someone else when something goes wrong. 


Millietant

Quote from: fj1289 on January 11, 2020, 06:42:24 PM
Thanks Dean!

Agreed - there are too many idiots in this world that won't  take responsibility for their own actions and want to blame someone else when something goes wrong.  



What I did notice I missed mentioning is that I use a big-standard 2 tonne trolley jack I got from a car parts store, as the lifting mechanism - mine came with a "cup" fitting that sits perfectly/securely under the lifting arm point.

Dean

'89 FJ 1200 3CV - owned from new.
'89 FJ 1200 3CV - no engine, tank, seat....parts bike for the future.
'88 FJ 1200 3CV - complete runner 2024 resto project
'88 FJ 1200 3CV - became a race bike, no longer with us.
'86 FJ 1200 1TX - sold to my boss to finance the '89 3CV I still own.

ribbert

Quote from: Millietant on January 11, 2020, 06:23:29 PM

......TBH, my only concern is that someone with less than stellar welding skills, does a botch job and then blames me if it fails, for putting the sketches in the public domain.....


Dean, It's no different to providing written advice or instructions, something that is done hear on the forum and a million other places on the net daily.


Thanks for posting the details, much appreciated. I got the PM

Noel
"Tell a wise man something he doesn't know and he'll thank you, tell a fool something he doesn't know and he'll abuse you"

ribbert

Quote from: ribbert on January 11, 2020, 08:19:13 PM
Quote from: Millietant on January 11, 2020, 06:23:29 PM

......TBH, my only concern is that someone with less than stellar welding skills, does a botch job and then blames me if it fails, for putting the sketches in the public domain.....


Dean, It's no different to providing written advice or instructions, something that is done hear on the forum and a million other places on the net daily.


Thanks for posting the details, much appreciated. I got the PM

Noel

What I did just notice looking at the photo is that once raised and locked, the welded joins form no part of the load bearing pivots, it's all nuts and bolts.
"Tell a wise man something he doesn't know and he'll thank you, tell a fool something he doesn't know and he'll abuse you"