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Seal, guard, chain slider.... 1984-1987

Started by balky1, May 31, 2017, 01:07:26 AM

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balky1

Hi!

As you know, this part is listed as obsolete. OEM can't be bought anymore, but maybe I have a good news for all of us. I have found a guy in USA that is willing to make it, but he needs one original to use it as a mold. Does any one of you from USA have one on the side and is willing to ship it to http://hotfootmoto.net/store/home.php ?
This is the part number for the part in question: 36Y-22151-01-0 (36Y-22151-00).


FJ 1100, 1985, sold
FJR 1300, 2009

pdxfj

Check Randy's site at the link above (in banner ad). He may have one.

Considering the west coast rally starts tomorrow evening i wouldn't expect a reply from him until maybe next week since he's going.

Would be nice to find someone to make a run. 3D printed?

balky1

Quote from: pdxfj on May 31, 2017, 12:26:26 PM
Check Randy's site at the link above (in banner ad). He may have one.

Considering the west coast rally starts tomorrow evening i wouldn't expect a reply from him until maybe next week since he's going.

Would be nice to find someone to make a run. 3D printed?

Randy has none for around a year now (only the ones for 1988 and later can be obtained). It can't be obtained from Yamaha any more. I even tried with my local Yamaha dealer and after a couple of days trying to find it - nothing.
Having it made somewhere is the only long term solution.
I don't know if 3D printing would work, I have no experience with it. But I think you also need one guard as a template? Anyhow, if I find one I will try to have it made locally in Croatia. I will contact a couple of factories that make custom rubber parts to see if the will/can make this. Or make one from a piece of PTFE or PA6 on a lathe.
This guy in USA could actually be more of a solution for all the guys over there.


FJ 1100, 1985, sold
FJR 1300, 2009

CutterBill

Balky,
good idea. I'm pretty sure that I've got a good one. I'll look this weekend.
Bill
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balky1

Quote from: CutterBill on May 31, 2017, 01:07:18 PM
Balky,
good idea. I'm pretty sure that I've got a good one. I'll look this weekend.
Bill

That would be great! A hope for everyone indeed since Yamaha stranded us.


FJ 1100, 1985, sold
FJR 1300, 2009

FJmonkey

If Bill does not have one then I have one off my parked '86.
The glass is not half full, it was engineered with a 2X safety factor.

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balky1

OK, you can contact them via the contact for on their site. Link is in my first post.
Bill, please let us know if you found one or should monkey send it.


FJ 1100, 1985, sold
FJR 1300, 2009

balky1

Bill, or any one else that would like to participate, have you found it?
I've managed to source one and only in Europe. Now I'm trying to find someone who could replicate it here in Croatia. I have bought it from cmsnl.com
I would suggest to all of you that ride these years to list this part on your wishlist on their site. https://www.cmsnl.com/yamaha-fj1100-1984-36y-europe-2536y-300e1_model37458/partslist/0023.html#results (part #37; even if you don't need it right away). They function in the way that if  they see enough interest in some parts they will try to source it or find a manufacturer to make it. If we show enough interest, who knows....


FJ 1100, 1985, sold
FJR 1300, 2009

fjbiker84

I'm in need of this for my 84.  Someone told me at the WCR a few days ago that the later year guide can be adapted by drilling a few small holes in the swing arm and securing it with screws.  Another thing I'm going to do is install an 18 tooth sprocket up front.  Would seem that a larger sprocket would give me a little more clearance around the swing arm.

aviationfred

Quote from: fjbiker84 on June 06, 2017, 07:59:02 AM
I'm in need of this for my 84.       



I have mentioned this a few times and nobody has bought it. Poway Motorcycles has a used one. Their website is. www.powaymotorcycles.com click on used parts the again on the blue used parts. The chain slider is in box #75



Fred
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balky1

Quote from: fjbiker84 on June 06, 2017, 07:59:02 AM
I'm in need of this for my 84.  Someone told me at the WCR a few days ago that the later year guide can be adapted by drilling a few small holes in the swing arm and securing it with screws.  Another thing I'm going to do is install an 18 tooth sprocket up front.  Would seem that a larger sprocket would give me a little more clearance around the swing arm.

If you watch closely the later year model and yours, you will see that newer one doesn't have an indent and protection for the underside part of the swing-arm at the place where you bolt on the shock linkage. That part gets a rough treatment from the chain, as it is obvious when you check the places of the old guard where it is most damaged. So, drilling holes to fit a newer one is not a problem, the problem is in protecting that part of the swing-arm? I simply can't imagine how that looks on that point. Anyone has any pics?
Fred, I've talked with Poway regarding the part, but I managed to find one new and I opted not to risk with used one.
I think it would be prudent to utilise the will of the guy to make the guards exactly how they should be. As I saw on the site, it would probably be cheaper than the newer style guard and most importantly, it would fit on the swing-arm the way it is supposed to. So I urge someone if you have one, even in 2-3 pieces, send it over there and problem solved. Since I am in Croatia I would have some complications with customs bla bla bla to do it, and he would, probably, also.


FJ 1100, 1985, sold
FJR 1300, 2009

racerrad8

There are no import tariffs or duty fees for items like that to be shipped to the USA on our side, so feel free to ship that new one to him and have them made, that way they are a perfect fit. We gave all the ones here off the parts bikes out back away and we tried to order them from Yamaha Japan with our last order but they said they no longer make them. We also ran a check with every dealer in North America and there are no more on any shelves here according to the database.

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Randy - RPM

fjbiker84

I called Poway Motorcycles about 6 months ago about that part and Bill said it was already gone. 

balky1

Quote from: fjbiker84 on June 06, 2017, 09:24:11 PM
I called Poway Motorcycles about 6 months ago about that part and Bill said it was already gone. 

I think I remember I got that answer, too.


FJ 1100, 1985, sold
FJR 1300, 2009

balky1

Quote from: racerrad8 on June 06, 2017, 02:46:46 PM
There are no import tariffs or duty fees for items like that to be shipped to the USA on our side, so feel free to ship that new one to him and have them made, that way they are a perfect fit. We gave all the ones here off the parts bikes out back away and we tried to order them from Yamaha Japan with our last order but they said they no longer make them. We also ran a check with every dealer in North America and there are no more on any shelves here according to the database.

Robert - RPM

OK, good to know that there is nothing on your side. However, my side is giving me some troubles. Stupid EU, these things were a lot simpler. I need to do a temporary export to avoid paying customs for my thing when it returns. And to do that I need as many papers as I am some kind of world known smuggler. That's why I'm trying to find out if any of the guys in the US has any that is in good enough condition to be used as a template. If no one answers, then I will complicate a life for myself.  :biggrin:


FJ 1100, 1985, sold
FJR 1300, 2009