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OK Whats the Trick for Valve Cover Gasket

Started by Sparky84, March 29, 2017, 02:43:57 AM

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Sparky84

G'day All
I have tried but it should be so easy, I have new Valve cover Gasket but every time I turn it up the right way The Gasket Falls out  :dash1:

I did notice that old one seemed to be stuck there, needed a bit of OMPH to get out, not a lot but gentle persuading,

So whats the Trick?

Cheers Alan
1984 FJ1100
1979 Kawasaki Z1300
1972 Honda CB750/4 K2

PaulG

I used a very tiny amount of liquid high temp gasket sealant in a few spots.  Just enough to hold it in there.  I put some on my fingers and gave both surfaces a very thin film, waited a min until it gets tacky then put the gasket on the cover.  Not all over every surface. Just in as few strategic spots as possible so it doesn't fall out.

I may get shat upon for saying that, cuz usually you don't want any liquid sealant on the engine.  Hence the minimal amount as possible.  If there's a better way I'm all ears.    :bye2:

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ribbert

Quote from: PaulG on March 29, 2017, 05:27:38 AM
I used a very tiny amount of liquid high temp gasket sealant in a few spots.  Just enough to hold it in there.  I put some on my fingers and gave both surfaces a very thin film, waited a min until it gets tacky then put the gasket on the cover.  Not all over every surface. Just in as few strategic spots as possible so it doesn't fall out.

I may get shat upon for saying that, cuz usually you don't want any liquid sealant on the engine.  Hence the minimal amount as possible.  If there's a better way I'm all ears.    :bye2:




Paul, you're on the right track. Traditionally grease is used to hold gaskets in place but I also just use a few strategically place dots of RTV gasket maker to the same end. Just enough to hold it in place. Don't sweat over using too much, it doesn't matter, it just peels off next time you remove the cover.

IMO

Noel
"Tell a wise man something he doesn't know and he'll thank you, tell a fool something he doesn't know and he'll abuse you"

JPaganel

The trick is this stuff:



Gasket shellac

It's better than silicone because if you slop it a little and get drips, all you need to do is wipe it off with rubbing alcohol. It doesn't cure like silicone and it dries pretty fast.

Grease isn't sticky enough for the FJ gasket.

You can use the shellac around the whole perimeter of the gasket. It will save you a bunch of aggravation.
1993 FJ1200 ABS

1984 FJ600, up on blocks

1986 FJ1200, flaming wreck, repaired and sold
1986 FJ1200, repaired, ridden, sold


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SBKBee

3M spray on upholstery adhesive works great.
Bee/CNU

FJ1100mjk

Quote from: SBKBee on March 29, 2017, 12:21:55 PM
upholstery adhesive works great.

Hot damn! Now, that's outside the box thinking.  :good2:
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FJmonkey

Just don't use any product on the OIL side of the gasket, or risk getting it in your engine.
The glass is not half full, it was engineered with a 2X safety factor.

'86 Ambulance - Bent frame, cracked case, due for an overhaul
'89 Stormy Blue - Suits my Dark Side

Firehawk068

This is what I use.
3M Weatherstrip adhesive.
A few dots in the corners, let it get sticky, and it works excellent!

Alan H.
Denver, CO
'90 FJ1200

Sparky84

I'll be going for a few strategically placed dots of RTV gasket maker over the can of Kwik Grip I have at Home...

Cheers Alan
1984 FJ1100
1979 Kawasaki Z1300
1972 Honda CB750/4 K2

Flynt

Quote from: JPaganel on March 29, 2017, 09:08:04 AM
The trick is this stuff:



Gasket shellac

+1 on this.  Super light coat on valve cover, fit gasket, carefully invert on a flat surface and let it set for 5 min...  now your gasket is part of the valve cover until it needs replacing.  Once gasket is too hard and ribs on engine side surface are gone, peel off and repeat.  Don't even need to clean the valve cover surface unless you used too much shellac to start with.

Forgive me Randy...

Frank
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racerrad8

Frank,

You are forgiven. We use a very light coat of Permatex Hi Tack in the valve cover valley where the gasket rib sits. Flip it over and let it set and then install. None on the gasket mating surface and you don't need much to get it to set. The hi tack is easily cleaned off when the time comes for a new gasket.

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Randy - RPM

ribbert

Quote from: JPaganel on March 29, 2017, 09:08:04 AM
The trick is this stuff:



Gasket shellac


Can you still buy this? It was common until the 60's and I've never seen it since. There's a couple of Pre War MG's I work on that still have residue of this stuff in and on the motor that has probably been there for 70 or 80 years. It sets hard and never goes away. Working on an engine that's been assembled with it is a PIA.

IMO

Noel
"Tell a wise man something he doesn't know and he'll thank you, tell a fool something he doesn't know and he'll abuse you"

mr blackstock

Go the cheap buggers way, put the gasket on the head first, doesn't matter which way up, place valve cover on top, wiggle it until it looks o.k, quickly tighten screws down before it changes shape, remember to tighten the screws as hard as possible.  Any bits of gasket end up poking out the sides, just shave off with a blade.

All you guys just wanna spend money!

Just jokes....
Squeaky wheels always get the grease...

Yamaha FJ1100 1985

FJmonkey

Don't forget to throw out the rubber grommets under each bolt, they are worthless since they leak anyway.  :crazy:
The glass is not half full, it was engineered with a 2X safety factor.

'86 Ambulance - Bent frame, cracked case, due for an overhaul
'89 Stormy Blue - Suits my Dark Side

TexasDave

Quote from: FJmonkey on April 02, 2017, 10:14:00 AM
Don't forget to throw out the rubber grommets under each bolt, they are worthless since they leak anyway.  :crazy:
Don't forget to REPLACE( with new) the rubber grommets under each bolt. Available from RPM.

Dave
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