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Air filter/box removal (Spray carby cleaner)

Started by cahop, February 10, 2017, 05:33:51 AM

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Sparky84

Quote from: JPaganel on February 10, 2017, 03:57:48 PM
Quote from: cahop on February 10, 2017, 03:51:06 PM
or another note......

anyone want to buy a 1984 FJ1100.....idles, but could probably do we a carby clean :rofl2:


I'd give you four cases of beer, double what you paid for it, but something tells me we are nowhere near being close geographically.   :wacko2:

I have a bike I got for free, but it came in five crates. I never get nice stuff that cheap...

I'll up the ante to five cases of beer and a bottle of JD and I'll drop them around to you when I come to pick up the bike!
My fuel bowls looked like this, imagine what the rest looked like, it wouldn't start.

1984 FJ1100
1979 Kawasaki Z1300
1972 Honda CB750/4 K2

Sparky84

Quote from: oldktmdude on February 10, 2017, 05:58:46 AM
   G'day Craig, if you're going to the trouble to remove your air box, do yourself a favour and give the carbs a proper clean while you have that bastard air box off. There are two 17mm bolts ( one either side) that secure the rear subframe to the main frame, remove them, this allows you to tilt the subframe out of the way enough to pull the air box out. There are carbie cleaning instructions in the Files section on the main menu page of the Forum. Follow these instructions closely, to save yourself from doing the job again if you don't.
Removing the air box is easy compared to installing it. You will soon learn why most of us use the Unifilter pods.
Good luck, it's a job worth doing as you will discover when you get the FJ up and running properly.
   Regards, Pete.

These are the bolts Pete was talking about and make sure it's on the centre stand (so you don't damage my bikes carbies) (by the way what beer do you drink?)

And as Pete and everyone else has said "do yourself a favour"

1984 FJ1100
1979 Kawasaki Z1300
1972 Honda CB750/4 K2

cahop

I have succumbed to peer pressure (its like high school all over again)........  :good2:

I am going to be taking the carbies off and giving them a bath, my reluctance was due to the fact I have only ever taken apart 2-stroke carbies, but with the guides from this site and a VERY rough idea of carbies I'm sure I will be able to stumble through it!

At the moment I'm planning on keeping it, Australia (NSW) has a "club" rego scheme where it only costs $50 to register your bike and you can ride it on club events and up to 60 times a year whenever you want. Its a really cheap way of running cars/bikes that are older than 30 years old. Having a little fella and another one on the way, this is a really cheap way to keep playing with and riding bikes.

jscgdunn

See the files section....there is complete tutorial for FJ carbs
92 FJ1200 2008 ZX14 Forks, wheels, 2008 cbr 600 RR swingarm
92 FJ1200 2009 R1 Swinger, Forks, Wheels, 2013 CBR 1000 Shock
90 FJ 1200 (Son # 2), Stock
89 FJ 1200 Built from parts: (Brother bought it) mostly 92 parts inc. motor
84 FJ 1100 (Son #1), 89 forks wheels, blue spots

cahop

I have previously printed off the PDF and found the illustrated carby thread which both look to be very helpful.......now its just suck it and see.

Sparky84

No Worries Mate, she'll be right,
Been exactly where you are now and mines still going and mine were absolutely filthy.

Make sure you've got some good screwies so you don't stuff the screw heads and jets
1984 FJ1100
1979 Kawasaki Z1300
1972 Honda CB750/4 K2

cahop

Quote from: Sparky84 on February 11, 2017, 12:26:26 AM
Quote from: JPaganel on February 10, 2017, 03:57:48 PM
Quote from: cahop on February 10, 2017, 03:51:06 PM
or another note......

anyone want to buy a 1984 FJ1100.....idles, but could probably do we a carby clean :rofl2:


I'd give you four cases of beer, double what you paid for it, but something tells me we are nowhere near being close geographically.   :wacko2:

I have a bike I got for free, but it came in five crates. I never get nice stuff that cheap...

I'll up the ante to five cases of beer and a bottle of JD and I'll drop them around to you when I come to pick up the bike!
My fuel bowls looked like this, imagine what the rest looked like, it wouldn't start.



Sparky84, did it run ok after the carby clean up? did you run into many other issues?

Sparky84

It ran ok, made it to mechanic to get blue slip but it wasn't idling too good, had to give it a bit to get going.
In my haste I didn't give the idle circuit a good enough clean out!

But that was my fault, no air compressor just a bike pump and just wanted to get a few rides in.
I pulled them apart again and did a thorough cleanout with a mates compressor.
Running sweet now and no real other issues, didnt even need to change any gaskets. Been on the dyno with no problems.
Just made sure I didn't stuff any screw heads or the gasket on the fuel bowl.
Had 4 containers labelled and placed all bits of carbs in each so I didn't mix them up.
Just take care
1984 FJ1100
1979 Kawasaki Z1300
1972 Honda CB750/4 K2

JPaganel

Quote from: Sparky84 on February 13, 2017, 09:19:45 PM
Had 4 containers labelled and placed all bits of carbs in each so I didn't mix them up.

I use egg cartons. They are great to keep small bits from rolling around.  :good2:
1993 FJ1200 ABS

1984 FJ600, up on blocks

1986 FJ1200, flaming wreck, repaired and sold
1986 FJ1200, repaired, ridden, sold


I don't want a pickle
I just want to ride my motorcicle

cahop

So peer pressure has worked, carbies are out of the bike. 3 of the plungers were stuck fast. Was kind of reassuring finding them stuck, I would have been concerned if they were all operating perfectly.

Now to the dismantling!





Sparky84

Hi Craig

Isn't it good to find something wrong after all that hard work and a little spray wouldn't done jack.
Nice egg carton, is that free range or a cage carton?

At present it looks like your numbering is arse up but it doesn't matter, as long as you know which one is your one and not the other one

Cheers
1984 FJ1100
1979 Kawasaki Z1300
1972 Honda CB750/4 K2

cahop

Funny you mention the numbers being arse about, as I did them I spent a little bit of time trying to come up with the correct order.......then thought bugger it I'll just take a photo with the numbers showing and the orientation of the carbs and that will ensure I have a good reference.

Yeah was good to know that the spray wouldn't have worked.....as you said means the extra work was worth it.

I didn't have any carby cleaner apart on me today, so I was just using WD40.......any huge issue with that??

CutterBill

Quote from: cahop on February 27, 2017, 02:48:36 AM
I didn't have any carby cleaner apart on me today, so I was just using WD40.......any huge issue with that??
WD40 is mostly kerosene; it won't clean your carbs. But it won't hurt anything.
Never Slow Down, Never Grow Old.

Current Stable:                                                     
FJ1100                                              
FJ1200 (4)
1999 Yamaha WR400 (street-legal)
2015 Super Tenere
2002 Honda Goldwing

cahop

having never used carby cleaner..... :flag_of_truce:...........do i just spray it on the jets once they have been removed and down all the holes/channels?

I read the Carburetor cleaning guide, but just double checking, once i have removed the main jet screw and the o-washer I'm just meant to push out the emulsion tube? and this is done from the side with the float bowl.


Pat Conlon

Quote from: cahop on February 27, 2017, 07:50:29 PM
... and this is done from the side with the float bowl.

Yes, I think you are saying that you push the tube out from the float bowl side....just to be sure:

With the slides removed, and the main jet and washer removed, turn the carb body upside down (so the float bowl faces up) the emulsion tube (aka needle jet) exits from the slide area (now pointing down). Put a towel down, the e-tube should just drop on to the towel. If it's gummed up you can get a small wood dowel and push it out.

Once it's out, take a look at all the small holes on the sides of the e-tube. Make sure they are clean and clear. Hold the tube up to a light and rotate the tube, you should see light shining thru all the holes. When cleaning, don't damage (or enlarge) the holes in the brass e-tube.

Cheers

Pat
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