Engine collar service

[aj52]

I've done my FJ's engine mount collars today.
During this past weekends' trip,I noticed that there is a vibration on the handle's that was coming from the engine,because as soon as I enganged the clutch,the vibration was gone.

What a pleasure to follows Pat's description in the Files Section on how to do it.
It is right on the dot. All the detail and "tools" are spot on.

One thing I noticed when I were loosen the bolts,there where no movement on the mountings,but after the clean-up when I were tightening everything,there was movement between engine and frame.

I've read that one must use grease,but I used Copper Compound when I've put everything together.
Will it be okay or should I have used the graese?

Hannes

[CutterBill]

I dunno...

What's copper compound?  Some sort of anti-seize?
Bill

[big r]

Sounds like the same stuff we call never seize. It comes in grey or a copper colour. Big R

[aj52]

Sounds like the same stuff we call never seize. It comes in grey or a copper colour. Big R

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I dunno...

What's copper compound?  Some sort of anti-seize?
Bill

Hi guys
Yes that is a anti-sieze product.
I shot some photo's,hope you will able to read the applications

[ribbert]

I've done my FJ's engine mount collars today.

I've read that one must use grease,but I used Copper Compound when I've put everything together.
Will it be okay or should I have used the graese?

Hannes

I wouldn't pull it apart again but grease would have been better. Anti seize is just that, anti seize and has no lubricating qualities.

Noel

[aj52]

I wouldn't pull it apart again but grease would have been better. Anti seize is just that, anti seize and has no lubricating qualities.

Noel
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Hi Noel

I thought it would be allright to use it,as it says it is a lubricant as well.
I will rather pull the collars again .
Thanks for your input.

Hannes

[CutterBill]

Judging from what it says on the bottle, I would say that your copper compound stuff will be just fine.  Looks like it's a combination anti-seize/lubricant.  You're fine.  Go ride.

[ribbert]

Hi Noel

I thought it would be allright to use it,as it says it is a lubricant as well.
I will rather pull the collars again .
Thanks for your input.

Hannes

My advice was based on your description of the product, but I looked it up and it will be just fine.

Enjoy the smooth ride. That job is the biggest improvement you can make to the late models without putting your hand in your pocket.

Noel

[aj52]

Thanks guys 
Just was not sure if it would be okay to use it.

[racerrad8]

I personally only use, extreme pressure, high temp synthetic grease.

If the copper compound gets hot and all the oil runs out, all you are left with is an additional metal (copper) to fill the void. This could possibly cause the inner bushing to seize.

I use this Redline Synthetic Grease which has a dropping point of >800*F which mean there is minimal chance of it melting out of where I put it.

Randy - RPM

[ribbert]

If the copper compound gets hot and all the oil runs out, all you are left with is an additional metal (copper) to fill the void. This could possibly cause the inner bushing to seize.

Randy - RPM

Randy, like you, if asked in advance I would recommend something similar but he has already done the job and the product he's used is good for 3000psi / 2000 F with application recommendations that seem appropriate.

Noel

[X-Ray]

Good timing this thread. Have just spent the past few days doing this  on the '94, was a pain, and will start on the '93 soon. Will post some piccies up in a separate thread     I was just going to use some high pressure bearing grease on the collars.

[racerrad8]

Randy, like you, if asked in advance I would recommend something similar but he has already done the job and the product he's used is good for 3000psi / 2000 F with application recommendations that seem appropriate.

Noel

I did not read that on the bottle, but I did not look into it any farther, 2000*F is hot. I goolged it this morning and they are shown putting it on the back of brake pads...
http://www.shopwurthusa.com/wurthstorefront/Chemical-Product/Lubricants/Anti-Seize/Anti-Seize-Copper-Paste/p/0890920284#

AJ, give us a report in a year or two on how it worked out.

Randy - RPM

[aj52]

Randy, like you, if asked in advance I would recommend something similar but he has already done the job and the product he's used is good for 3000psi / 2000 F with application recommendations that seem appropriate.

Noel

I did not read that on the bottle, but I did not look into it any farther, 2000*F is hot. I goolged it this morning and they are shown putting it on the back of brake pads...
http://www.shopwurthusa.com/wurthstorefront/Chemical-Product/Lubricants/Anti-Seize/Anti-Seize-Copper-Paste/p/0890920284#

AJ, give us a report in a year or two on how it worked out.

Randy - RPM

Will do Randy.
Main reason I actually used it ,was that live at the west coast.
Winter months(your summer months) it is very wet cause of the rain and summer months it is very windy.
So I wanted something for the salt on the wet road during winter time.

Thanks for taking time out to look into product.

Hannes