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84 lower fork legs exchange with later non antidive analog?

Started by azure, September 19, 2016, 11:29:02 AM

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azure

Hello, and thanks for any knowledge regarding losing the antidive units. I cannot find the block off plates anywhere.
All best to this great group!
Ben

Pat Conlon

Hey Ben, as you have noticed, the link for block off plates I had down in the Suspension Files (Demon Speed Racing) no longer works.
I Googled them to see if they were still in business but I could not find them, so I have deleted my outdated File post.

Stand by, let's see if we can find another source.
1) Free Owners Manual download: https://tinyurl.com/fmsz7hk9
2) Don't store your FJ with E10 fuel https://tinyurl.com/3cjrfct5
3) Replace your old stock rubber brake lines.
4) Important items for the '84-87 FJ's:
Safety wire: https://tinyurl.com/99zp8ufh
Fuel line: https://tinyurl.com/bdff9bf3

FJmonkey

Ben, you don't need the Block Off plates to lose the AD function. Unless you are looking a for a cosmetic approach. Take the AD units off, take the top half off the lower half. Flip the lower half over and reinstall. Save or toss the top half to taste. Or get 89+ forks, they offer some upgrade options like a 17" front wheel and more modern brakes that bolt on.
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jscgdunn

Yep...for $90 I think it is better to upgrade to 3CV forks, brakes, 17 inch wheel.
92 FJ1200 2008 ZX14 Forks, wheels, 2008 cbr 600 RR swingarm
92 FJ1200 2009 R1 Swinger, Forks, Wheels, 2013 CBR 1000 Shock
90 FJ 1200 (Son # 2), Stock
89 FJ 1200 Built from parts: (Brother bought it) mostly 92 parts inc. motor
84 FJ 1100 (Son #1), 89 forks wheels, blue spots

Pat Conlon

Thank you Marty. I have updated the Suspension Files with your information :good2:

Yes, I agree, rather than spending $90 on AD block off plates, put that money towards some '89-93 fork lowers.
1) Free Owners Manual download: https://tinyurl.com/fmsz7hk9
2) Don't store your FJ with E10 fuel https://tinyurl.com/3cjrfct5
3) Replace your old stock rubber brake lines.
4) Important items for the '84-87 FJ's:
Safety wire: https://tinyurl.com/99zp8ufh
Fuel line: https://tinyurl.com/bdff9bf3

azure


FJ_Hooligan

Don't forget, you'll need the front wheel, axle, brake rotors and calipers.
DavidR.

azure

Ah, thanks. With all that hardware, is this the best way to improve the front end on my 84? Would I be better off swapping for a more modern alternative?

Pat Conlon

For the easiest, most cost effective, good performing front end mod: I recommend the 89/93 lowers, RPM valves and springs, fork brace, R-1/R-6 mono block blue or gold spot calipers, ss lines, EBC HH pads, 87/88 FZR 750/1000 front wheel and a modern radial tire, compound of your choice.

I have '92 FZR1000 USD (upside down) cartridge forks on my '84 and they are good forks. This winter I will be converting over to the YZF750 USD's for external adjustability of compression/rebound.

On my last trip up to Oakdale to visit RPM, Randy wanted me to ride his bike equipped with the RPM fork valves so as to compare with my cartridge forks...
I can say that his bike was the smoothest riding FJ I have ever ridden.....ever.
The compliance speed of the IAT valves in responding to (smoothing out) sharp roadway imperfections was much faster than my FZR cartridge forks. A very nice ride.
There are structural advantages the USD forks have that the spindly 41mm RU forks don't have, and will never have, however, smooth riding is not one of them.

I think it's fair to say that the general consensus agrees that the sexy USD forks gets the chicks..... (popcorn)

Yes, you can spend your time and money going to a newer USD fork conversion, but if you want a smooth front end, the RPM valves are hard to beat.
Here is some additional reading on fork swaps for you:  www.fjmods.co.uk

Cheers, hope this helps.....

Pat




1) Free Owners Manual download: https://tinyurl.com/fmsz7hk9
2) Don't store your FJ with E10 fuel https://tinyurl.com/3cjrfct5
3) Replace your old stock rubber brake lines.
4) Important items for the '84-87 FJ's:
Safety wire: https://tinyurl.com/99zp8ufh
Fuel line: https://tinyurl.com/bdff9bf3

azure

Thanks Pat, Hooligan, and everyone else who replied. I am very happy with the Race tech valves and springs I used on the Gold Wing front end on my sohc Honda, so why the heck not?!

Pat Conlon

Race Tech cartridge emulator valves are '80's technology.
I've had those and yes, they are better than the oem damper rod forks.

Time marches on...
The IAT valves are 21st century technology.

Ride a FJ with RPM valves and see for yourself.
1) Free Owners Manual download: https://tinyurl.com/fmsz7hk9
2) Don't store your FJ with E10 fuel https://tinyurl.com/3cjrfct5
3) Replace your old stock rubber brake lines.
4) Important items for the '84-87 FJ's:
Safety wire: https://tinyurl.com/99zp8ufh
Fuel line: https://tinyurl.com/bdff9bf3

krusty

To keep cost under control go for the later forks (with RPM valves if you wish) and calipers. Save money by keeping your original 16" front wheel fitted with (early) Vmax rotors.
91 FJ1200
84 FJ1100 x 2
85 FJ1100
89 GL1500
76 CB750F1
72 CB350F
63 C92 x 2
59 C76
62 C100
63 C100
60 Colleda 250TA x 3
63 Suzuki MD50
77 DT125E
77 DT175E x 2
79 DT250F

azure

Thanks Pat and Kristy

Interesting concerning the improvement in cartridge emulators, Pat. Aside from experientially feeling the difference,  what is the difference between the RPM and Racetech emulators physically?

Pat Conlon

1) Free Owners Manual download: https://tinyurl.com/fmsz7hk9
2) Don't store your FJ with E10 fuel https://tinyurl.com/3cjrfct5
3) Replace your old stock rubber brake lines.
4) Important items for the '84-87 FJ's:
Safety wire: https://tinyurl.com/99zp8ufh
Fuel line: https://tinyurl.com/bdff9bf3