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A bit of a cleanup (down under)

Started by FJools, July 20, 2016, 05:03:16 PM

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oldktmdude

   Don't you just love it when a straight forward 2 hour job turns into a full day epic. Common occurrence when working on 30+ year old machines.
Great learning experience Jools. I can help you with fine tuning your carbs in December if you like. I've done one or two sets in the past.
We have a bed reserved for you, so hopefully this will entice you down here. Oh yeah, we have beer and food as well.
   Stay well mate and see you in December.
   Regards, Pete.   :drinks:
1985 FJ1100 x2 (1 sold)
2009 TDM 900
1980 Kawasaki Z1R Mk11 (sold and still regretting it)
1979 Kawasaki Z650 (sold)
1985 Suzuki GSXR 400 x2 (next project)
2001 KTM 520 exc (sold)
2004 GasGas Ec300
1981 Honda CB 900 F (sold)
1989 Kawasaki GPX 600 Adventure

FJools

Hi Pete


yeah, I'd agree with you a few years ago but now I'm finding grumpiness increases with the square root of age.

I'll be down there, I need to try the air hawk seat out ! Any of the local Sydney based guys coming down ?
Still thinking of something..................

oldktmdude

   G'day Jools, Alan mentioned that he may be a starter, Dave and Tony also coming. Troy and Johno are coming, so you blokes should organise a meet up and ride down together.
I've never used an Air Hawk but all the riders I know that do, recommend very little air pressure is the secret to their success.
   See you soon. Regards, Pete.
1985 FJ1100 x2 (1 sold)
2009 TDM 900
1980 Kawasaki Z1R Mk11 (sold and still regretting it)
1979 Kawasaki Z650 (sold)
1985 Suzuki GSXR 400 x2 (next project)
2001 KTM 520 exc (sold)
2004 GasGas Ec300
1981 Honda CB 900 F (sold)
1989 Kawasaki GPX 600 Adventure

Sparky84

Quote from: oldktmdude on October 26, 2017, 05:30:33 PM
   Don't you just love it when a straight forward 2 hour job turns into a full day epic.
I do wish I had that problem Pete,
mine usually take 3+ weeks , pull it apart then find something needs replacing, order it then wait til it comes in. Meanwhile you start something else then find out you need other parts  :hang1:

Quote from: FJools on October 29, 2017, 03:59:34 PM
Any of the local Sydney based guys coming down ?
I'm trying to get there Jools.
I got my swing arm back on after greasing all linkages and bearings last Saturday, did the rear wheel bearings also. Next 2 hour job is put carbs back on then headset and front wheel bearings  :scratch_one-s_head: I think that should do

Cheers Alan
1984 FJ1100
1979 Kawasaki Z1300
1972 Honda CB750/4 K2

oldktmdude

Quote from: Sparky84 on October 29, 2017, 05:47:00 PM
I'm trying to get there Jools.
I got my swing arm back on after greasing all linkages and bearings last Saturday, did the rear wheel bearings also. Next 2 hour job is put carbs back on then headset and front wheel bearings  :scratch_one-s_head: I think that should do

Cheers Alan
Alan, if you get all that done before you come down to the Mashed Day, we'll have nothing to do except drink extra beer and go for a longer ride.
    :good2:   :drinks:
1985 FJ1100 x2 (1 sold)
2009 TDM 900
1980 Kawasaki Z1R Mk11 (sold and still regretting it)
1979 Kawasaki Z650 (sold)
1985 Suzuki GSXR 400 x2 (next project)
2001 KTM 520 exc (sold)
2004 GasGas Ec300
1981 Honda CB 900 F (sold)
1989 Kawasaki GPX 600 Adventure

Sparky84

Quote from: oldktmdude on October 29, 2017, 10:08:23 PM
Quote from: Sparky84 on October 29, 2017, 05:47:00 PM
I'm trying to get there Jools.
I got my swing arm back on after greasing all linkages and bearings last Saturday, did the rear wheel bearings also. Next 2 hour job is put carbs back on then headset and front wheel bearings  :scratch_one-s_head: I think that should do

Cheers Alan
Alan, if you get all that done before you come down to the Mashed Day, we'll have nothing to do except drink extra beer and go for a longer ride.
    :good2:   :drinks:
No worries Pete, I'll make sure it's not washed before then  :biggrin:  :drinks:
1984 FJ1100
1979 Kawasaki Z1300
1972 Honda CB750/4 K2

ribbert

Quote from: oldktmdude on October 29, 2017, 10:08:23 PM

..... we'll have nothing to do except drink extra beer and go for a longer ride.
    :good2:   :drinks:


This has the makings of the best one yet.

Noel
"Tell a wise man something he doesn't know and he'll thank you, tell a fool something he doesn't know and he'll abuse you"

ribbert

Quote from: oldktmdude on October 29, 2017, 04:12:37 PM
   
I've never used an Air Hawk but all the riders I know that do, recommend very little air pressure is the secret to their success.
   

Yep, if you bum's not touching the seat it's over inflated. I was speaking to the Air Hawk guy a couple of years ago and I could see the frustration in his face as he explained the difficulty they have getting that message through.

Noel
"Tell a wise man something he doesn't know and he'll thank you, tell a fool something he doesn't know and he'll abuse you"

ribbert

Bloody hell! How did the manshed day sneak up so fast? It's only 5 weeks away.

Some time ago I removed the rear suspension chasing a bit of freeplay. It is only a couple of years since I last had it apart and at that time I replaced the swing arm bearings only. I cleaned, inspected, greased and replaced all the other components.

Over that couple of years I did some trips that took me over the worst corrugations and I ever driven/ridden over and many hundreds of Km's of rough bush roads and it seems to have taken it's toll on the suspension. I also had a carrier bearing fail en route on the last trip.

The shafts have chunks of hardening missing, they are heavily marked by the needles and most of the bearings are shot. After giving it some thought I decided that needle rollers were not the best choice (IMO of course) for this application given the small arc these components move in, the nature of the load on sharp bumps and the small contact area between the rollers and the shafts.
I thought is would be better served with bushes and grease nipples. So, out with the bearings and .......well, that's where it sits, a recurring hand injury that won't go away making heavy work somewhere between difficult and impossible.

Now that Pete's figured out that working on manshed weekends is just what we tell our wives we do, I don't won't to miss it, I will have to get busy. I have not ordered any parts yet either. Where does the time go? The last time I thought about this I had months up my sleeve.

For those of you unfamiliar with Bermagui, it is a beautiful part of the world (below) and any lucky bastard riding up from Victoria gets 4 days of some of the best roads in the country getting there and back.



Just South of Pete and Alfs place. Photo taken from the bike.



How good's this on a work day



Also taken from the road


"Tell a wise man something he doesn't know and he'll thank you, tell a fool something he doesn't know and he'll abuse you"

FJools

Quote from: ribbert on October 30, 2017, 07:09:02 AM
Quote from: oldktmdude on October 29, 2017, 10:08:23 PM

..... we'll have nothing to do except drink extra beer and go for a longer ride.
    :good2:   :drinks:


This has the makings of the best one yet.

Noel

There was no mention of red wine Noel...................
Still thinking of something..................

FJools

I gave the old girl her first major ride out since the rebuild, and bar a few niggly little things, ran perfectly.
I had changed the front fork oil from 10/30 to a pucka 15 weight since it has emulators and 0.95kg springs as I discovered on pulling apart. Still not sure about the settings as its fine on smooth or slightly bumpy bitumen, but chronic over the 'standard' Sydney road surfaces. On faster uneven surface corners I had the exhaust touch down when it bottomed out encountering a couple of hollows in the road, so probably need to tighten the rear preload up a bit.

What I am concerned about though is the "backlash" in the drive when rolling off and on the throttle which may just be down to clutch shock absorbers, so a bit of inspection required there.

Air hawk was good, following the inflation advice, for the 2 hour ride which took in Middle Dural, Cattai Ridge Rd (bumpy as!) back through kenthurst and Berowra Waters ferry, a shorth blast up the freeway to Moonee Moonee and back via the old road with a quick coffee at the Pie in the Sky, continuing along the old ride, bypassing Hornsby with the freeway again then the Commenarra back to Lane Cove Road and home. 160km all up. The only pain was the left wrist which must still be grumbling from the stack at Eastern Creek last year.

So this arvo i will be checking it over any loose stuff and looking at the plugs. Carbs setting is pretty close I reckon, but need to look how I can tuck the exhaust in a bit more.
Still thinking of something..................

FJools

I bought one of these today

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Yamaha-FJ1100-FJ1200-Xenon-HID-Headlamp-Conversion-NEW/380805496780?hash=item58a9c6bfcc:g:hjIAAOSwM8ZZeZPH

will let you know how good it is on arrival.

I figured I would take this opportunity to carry out the ignition coil feed mod at the same time. The plan being to install a 12v distribution panel at the front of the bike via 4mm cables which are fuse protected directly from battery. This sub panel will be relay enabled by a brown wire switched feed off the ignition switch.
Still thinking of something..................

Pat Conlon

Cool beans Jools....Check to make sure that the 12v current in that brown wire doesn't shut off when the starter is engaged.

Report back....you will notice the added voltage to your coils, absolutely.

Cheers
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Sparky84

Quote from: FJools on December 12, 2017, 09:23:13 PM
I bought one of these today

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Yamaha-FJ1100-FJ1200-Xenon-HID-Headlamp-Conversion-NEW/380805496780?hash=item58a9c6bfcc:g:hjIAAOSwM8ZZeZPH
Planning on more night riding or just to be seen better Jools?

Quote from: FJools on December 12, 2017, 09:23:13 PM
I figured I would take this opportunity to carry out the ignition coil feed mod at the same time. The plan being to install a 12v distribution panel at the front of the bike via 4mm cables which are fuse protected directly from battery. This sub panel will be relay enabled by a brown wire switched feed off the ignition switch.

Jools when you mention 4mm cable, you don't mean 4mm² do you because that is awfully big.
I have run 2 x 15A circuits up to the front,
1 is being switched through relay that is activated by parking light switch that powers GPS and USB and possible LED spot lights.
The other will be run direct from battery for coil relay mod.

Quote from: Pat Conlon on December 13, 2017, 12:27:18 AM
....you will notice the added voltage to your coils, absolutely.

Is it really that noticeable

Cheers Alan

1984 FJ1100
1979 Kawasaki Z1300
1972 Honda CB750/4 K2

FJools

Quote from: Pat Conlon on December 13, 2017, 12:27:18 AM
Cool beans Jools....Check to make sure that the 12v current in that brown wire doesn't shut off when the starter is engaged.

Report back....you will notice the added voltage to your coils, absolutely.

Cheers

Hi Pat
I've not studied the circuit diagram in any great detail as yet but would imagine that the start button feeds off that brown switched live otherwise you could hit the starter with the ignition off.....???
Still thinking of something..................