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Fork seals linking help.

Started by jagcofj, July 19, 2016, 03:09:44 PM

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jagcofj

wow thanks to all, for the info i will start pulling the forks tomorrow morning. and will update my progress.

jagcofj

Quote from: SausageNips on July 21, 2016, 09:31:43 AM
I just did my fork seals for the first time.  I have to admit, I was a bit nervous, but between the Haynes manual and a truly great YouTube video, I am victorious.  The Haynes manual will have the pictures for the disassembly of the front of the bike and the pics for putting the fork components in the correct order when you reassemble.

This video below will tell you the best way I've seen to replace the seals.  It even points out several common mistakes people make and the "got-cha's" that come up along the way.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrmYJgcGX30

As far as the tool for the cap removal, I made one by finding a slightly larger than 27mm bolt at Lowe's (a Home Depot style store) and grinding it down on a bench grinder to fit.  If I had to do it again, I'd spend the measly $35 and get this:
https://www.rpmracingca.com/proddetail.asp?prod=27mmForkHolder


Use Delboy's video to make the fork seal driver out of drain pipe.  It's $2.50 in parts at the home improvement store and it worked perfectly.

Nice video thanks. 

balky1

Quote from: jagcofj on July 21, 2016, 10:35:05 AM
wow thanks to all, for the info i will start pulling the forks tomorrow morning. and will update my progress.

Ah yes, one thing I remembered during sleeping.  :rofl:
If you are going to disassemble them completely, before you take out the springs, try to unscrew the allen bolt at the bottom of the legs. Spring might prevent it from rotating.


FJ 1100, 1985, sold
FJR 1300, 2009

jagcofj

Quote from: not a lib on July 20, 2016, 10:19:24 AM

The caps are easy to remove if you have a homemade tool like this one:






I never seen anything like this socket and screw, what is this call the right name for it. Can't find it on line.

balky1

Quote from: jagcofj on July 22, 2016, 06:51:24 AM
Quote from: not a lib on July 20, 2016, 10:19:24 AM

The caps are easy to remove if you have a homemade tool like this one:






I never seen anything like this socket and screw, what is this call the right name for it. Can't find it on line.

It is hand made.


FJ 1100, 1985, sold
FJR 1300, 2009

aviationfred

Quote from: SausageNips on July 21, 2016, 09:31:43 AM
I'd spend the measly $35 and get this:
https://www.rpmracingca.com/proddetail.asp?prod=27mmForkHolder




I have used this tool for my fork seal change a few months ago. It works like a champ.


Fred
I'm not the fastest FJ rider, I am 'half-fast', the fastest slow guy....

Current
2008 VFR800 RC46 Vtec
1996 VFR750 RC36/2
1990 FJ1300 (1297cc) Casper
1990 VFR750 RC36/1 Minnie
1989 FJ1200 Lazarus, the Streetfighter Project
1985 VF500F RC31 Interceptor

jscgdunn

Quote from: balky1 on July 22, 2016, 07:27:55 AM
Quote from: jagcofj on July 22, 2016, 06:51:24 AM
Quote from: not a lib on July 20, 2016, 10:19:24 AM

The caps are easy to remove if you have a homemade tool like this one:






I never seen anything like this socket and screw, what is this call the right name for it. Can't find it on line.

It is hand made.

Just find the right size bolt and drive it into a tight socket with a big hammer.
92 FJ1200 2008 ZX14 Forks, wheels, 2008 cbr 600 RR swingarm
92 FJ1200 2009 R1 Swinger, Forks, Wheels, 2013 CBR 1000 Shock
90 FJ 1200 (Son # 2), Stock
89 FJ 1200 Built from parts: (Brother bought it) mostly 92 parts inc. motor
84 FJ 1100 (Son #1), 89 forks wheels, blue spots

balky1

Quote from: jscgdunn on July 22, 2016, 09:29:28 AM
Quote from: balky1 on July 22, 2016, 07:27:55 AM
Quote from: jagcofj on July 22, 2016, 06:51:24 AM
Quote from: not a lib on July 20, 2016, 10:19:24 AM

The caps are easy to remove if you have a homemade tool like this one:






I never seen anything like this socket and screw, what is this call the right name for it. Can't find it on line.

It is hand made.

Just find the right size bolt and drive it into a tight socket with a big hammer.

Welding right size nut on the other side instead of ruining a socket would also work.


FJ 1100, 1985, sold
FJR 1300, 2009

rktmanfj

Quote from: balky1 on July 22, 2016, 09:40:34 AM
Quote from: jscgdunn on July 22, 2016, 09:29:28 AM
Quote from: balky1 on July 22, 2016, 07:27:55 AM
Quote from: jagcofj on July 22, 2016, 06:51:24 AM
Quote from: rktmanfj on July 20, 2016, 10:19:24 AM

The caps are easy to remove if you have a homemade tool like this one:






I never seen anything like this socket and screw, what is this call the right name for it. Can't find it on line.

It is hand made.

Just find the right size bolt and drive it into a tight socket with a big hammer.

Welding right size nut on the other side instead of ruining a socket would also work.

I don't own a welder, but I had four 3/8 drive 11/16" sockets and a 3 lb sledgehammer...  :pardon:

Randy T
Indy

Blessed be the LORD my strength, which teacheth my hands to war, and my fingers to fight.
Psalms 144:1

'89 FJ1200
'90 FJ1200
'78 XT500
'88 XT350


balky1

Quote from: not a lib on July 22, 2016, 09:51:51 AM
Quote from: balky1 on July 22, 2016, 09:40:34 AM
Quote from: jscgdunn on July 22, 2016, 09:29:28 AM
Quote from: balky1 on July 22, 2016, 07:27:55 AM
Quote from: jagcofj on July 22, 2016, 06:51:24 AM
Quote from: not a lib on July 20, 2016, 10:19:24 AM

The caps are easy to remove if you have a homemade tool like this one:






I never seen anything like this socket and screw, what is this call the right name for it. Can't find it on line.

It is hand made.

Just find the right size bolt and drive it into a tight socket with a big hammer.

Welding right size nut on the other side instead of ruining a socket would also work.

I don't own a welder, but I had four 3/8 drive 11/16" sockets and a 3 lb sledgehammer...  :pardon:


:good:


FJ 1100, 1985, sold
FJR 1300, 2009

jagcofj

Forks of the bike. I was able to pry the seal out with small little bent tip screw driver real easy to do. Thanks for the pics I made this with nuts and bolts I had. The nut fits right in the top of the fork.

OK now the fork seals - are these the right 1's for my bike, There's is taller you can't get the clamp on when it's install. And it don't fit tight on the outer fork tube.

balky1

Quote from: jagcofj on July 22, 2016, 11:34:09 AM
Forks of the bike. I was able to pry the seal out with small little bent tip screw driver real easy to do. Thanks for the pics I made this with nuts and bolts I had. The nut fits right in the top of the fork.

OK now the fork seals - are these the right 1's for my bike, There's is taller you can't get the clamp on when it's install. And it don't fit tight on the outer fork tube.

I'd say your new seals must be the same dimensions like your old ones!
Or, like you see, you can't put the retaining clip on, or something else.

I like the purple mat touch.  :sarcastic: Must find one for myself.  :biggrin:


FJ 1100, 1985, sold
FJR 1300, 2009

FJmonkey

You got the wrong seals. Where did you get them? Did they say they fit the FJ forks? Not reliable if they said they fit. Many here have found that after market seals don't last like the Yamaha seals. Get your money back if you can and get OEM fork seals. I have only used OEM from RPM and cannot properly judge the after market options. Let us know what works for you.
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'89 Stormy Blue - Suits my Dark Side

Tuneforkfreak

That mat reminds me of the 91 pink stripe color.
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IT465, IT200, YZ80. 350Warrior, Kodiak400, Kodiak450,
Various others include
XR600, KX500, KDX200, ATC250R, ATC350X, ATC 200S
Currently ride
FJ 1200 , DRZ400, Yamaha Viking, Suzuki Samurai dirt mobile

jagcofj

Quote from: balky1 on July 22, 2016, 02:22:53 PM
Quote from: jagcofj on July 22, 2016, 11:34:09 AM
Forks of the bike. I was able to pry the seal out with small little bent tip screw driver real easy to do. Thanks for the pics I made this with nuts and bolts I had. The nut fits right in the top of the fork.

OK now the fork seals - are these the right 1's for my bike, There's is taller you can't get the clamp on when it's install. And it don't fit tight on the outer fork tube.

I'd say your new seals must be the same dimensions like your old ones!
Or, like you see, you can't put the retaining clip on, or something else.

I like the purple mat touch.  :sarcastic: Must find one for myself.  :biggrin:

Funny i keep few trips of carpet to rest when working on stuff. I have rain bow color 1 from the 60s.